@ToniTurnyne said:

@MDBAddict said:

@Poetist LOL, pretty sure Brandon moved on.

I think what Poetist meant was that there were rumours that Brandon didn’t know that HC replaced him as Superman until a little bit too late, because he was expecting to wear the cape again even if Singer’s Superman movie underperformed. So, it doesn’t hurt if HC has more projects in the pipeline rather than always assuming that he can fall back on a Superman role.

Yeah, that's what I meant.

Oh and HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!🎉🎉🎋🎊🎉🎋🎊🎊

Happy New Year, MDBAddict! Braised yourself for more bytches bytchyng next year on this board! LOL!

LOL!

And there’s more shake-ups:

http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/dc-entertainment/270002/dc-films-names-new-head

A bit surprising to hear that they are also planning to move Geoff Johns. He’s always the guy I hear about when it comes to the DC TV shows, comics and the movies. I thought he was ‘safer’ than others, but I guess the higher-ups are not happy with what happened with JL’s performance.

I’m quite intrigued with this paragraph:

There's continued talk that WB is looking to de-emphasize the shared universe model popularized by Marvel, in which each film builds to a periodic "event" movie, and instead focus on standalone, filmmaker-driven chapters that can coexist without relying on each other. Perhaps Harada will help facilitate that.

Hmmm... If WB took their time in bringing together the characters maybe their big events would have worked better. They seem to be doing ok on TV with the big event crossovers. (Haven’t personally seen them, but was told they’re good.)

Only thing is, if every DC movie is now filmmaker-driven, would the director now have the freedom to cast whomever he/she wants, and not necessarily go for the same actors (with the exception of Gal because she’s popular right now).

@ToniTurnyne said:

And there’s more shake-ups:

http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/dc-entertainment/270002/dc-films-names-new-head

A bit surprising to hear that they are also planning to move Geoff Johns.

They are not moving him. He's helping out with the transition. At least, that's what I get from the following quote:

Now Warner Bros. has named Walter Harada the new head of DC Films. Johns is still DC's President and CCO and will continue to advise on the movie end (in addition to his duties with comics and DC's numerous TV projects), will "work closely" with Harada.

Only thing is, if every DC movie is now filmmaker-driven, would the director now have the freedom to cast whomever he/she wants, and not necessarily go for the same actors (with the exception of Gal because she’s popular right now).

If the actor can't put butts in seats, then they are all up for the chopping block. Think of it this way, if you were a director and you get this big shot, wouldn't you want to make sure to do anything to add to your box office? A big name or big talent MIGHT be able to tilt the wheel of fortune in your favor.

On the other hand, the characters are bigger than the actors but not bigger than the story.

If I were a director, I would have Justin Bieber as Robin and Hamm as Batman. (But... y'all know I have a soft spot for LE. He might be able to convince me to give him a chance)

If I were a director, I MIGHT keep HC but I will pair him with Supergirl, the TV actress.

Then, I would use the TV writers to create a story around all of this.

@Poetist said:

@ToniTurnyne said:

And there’s more shake-ups:

http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/dc-entertainment/270002/dc-films-names-new-head

A bit surprising to hear that they are also planning to move Geoff Johns.

They are not moving him. He's helping out with the transition. At least, that's what I get from the following quote:

My choice of words is wrong. What I meant was, it seems that his ‘power’ seems to have been reduced somewhat because now he has to collaborate with the new head. A part of me thought they were grooming Johns to be the equivalent of Kevin Feige from Marvel. Guess, this is not the case...

@ToniTurnyne said:

@Poetist said:

@ToniTurnyne said:

And there’s more shake-ups:

http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/dc-entertainment/270002/dc-films-names-new-head

A bit surprising to hear that they are also planning to move Geoff Johns.

They are not moving him. He's helping out with the transition. At least, that's what I get from the following quote:

My choice of words is wrong. What I meant was, it seems that his ‘power’ seems to have been reduced somewhat because now he has to collaborate with the new head. A part of me thought they were grooming Johns to be the equivalent of Kevin Feige from Marvel. Guess, this is not the case...

Maybe, he was asked, and he's happy right where he is. Obviously, WB wants some guidance from him and most likely approached him. Johns' assistance in the transition was probably what he offered to them opposed to taking on that beast.

He's successful in his space. Why should he jeopardize his happy bubble to deal with DC film? I'm sure he probably can make more money in his TV projects than some marginally and subpar performing DC film projects.

Toni, this link seems to confirm that John is happy as a clam, as suspected.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BdiZMW1nvXQ/?tagged=henrycavill

@Poetist said:

Toni, this link seems to confirm that John is happy as a clam, as suspected.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BdiZMW1nvXQ/?tagged=henrycavill

I guess he should be happy. Despite all the shake-up, he seems to have a lot of control and power in the studio, and he will be working with someone he is friends with. It would be interesting to see what happens to these two if Aquaman or Shazam continues the underperformance of the DC movies. Only Wonder Woman seems ‘safe’ at the moment.

@ToniTurnyne said:

@Poetist said:

Toni, this link seems to confirm that John is happy as a clam, as suspected.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BdiZMW1nvXQ/?tagged=henrycavill

I guess he should be happy. Despite all the shake-up, he seems to have a lot of control and power in the studio, and he will be working with someone he is friends with. It would be interesting to see what happens to these two if Aquaman or Shazam continues the underperformance of the DC movies. Only Wonder Woman seems ‘safe’ at the moment.

Well, from what I gather John is only the suggestion guy. The new appointee can take it or leave it.

@Poetist said:

@ToniTurnyne said:

@Poetist said:

Toni, this link seems to confirm that John is happy as a clam, as suspected.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BdiZMW1nvXQ/?tagged=henrycavill

I guess he should be happy. Despite all the shake-up, he seems to have a lot of control and power in the studio, and he will be working with someone he is friends with. It would be interesting to see what happens to these two if Aquaman or Shazam continues the underperformance of the DC movies. Only Wonder Woman seems ‘safe’ at the moment.

Well, from what I gather John is only the suggestion guy. The new appointee can take it or leave it.

It depends... In the comics (and possibly TV series and animated features?), he has a lot more power... I think he spearheaded the DC comics ‘Rebirth’.

Still curious how all the shake-up could affect the casting and direction of their franchise movies.

@ToniTurnyne said:

@Poetist said:

@ToniTurnyne said:

@Poetist said:

Toni, this link seems to confirm that John is happy as a clam, as suspected.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BdiZMW1nvXQ/?tagged=henrycavill

I guess he should be happy. Despite all the shake-up, he seems to have a lot of control and power in the studio, and he will be working with someone he is friends with. It would be interesting to see what happens to these two if Aquaman or Shazam continues the underperformance of the DC movies. Only Wonder Woman seems ‘safe’ at the moment.

Well, from what I gather John is only the suggestion guy. The new appointee can take it or leave it.

It depends... In the comics (and possibly TV series and animated features?), he has a lot more power... I think he spearheaded the DC comics ‘Rebirth’.

Still curious how all the shake-up could affect the casting and direction of their franchise movies.

Me too. I think they'll definitely make major cast changes.

Still curious how all the shake-up could affect the casting and direction of their franchise movies.

Me too. I think they'll definitely make major cast changes.

Since everyone is speculating Ben Affleck is going and you have Jon Hamm or Jake Gyllenhaal replaces him as the Batman, I wonder who can possibly replace HC should such recasting or rebooting happen.

@ToniTurnyne said:

Still curious how all the shake-up could affect the casting and direction of their franchise movies.

Me too. I think they'll definitely make major cast changes.

Since everyone is speculating Ben Affleck is going and you have Jon Hamm or Jake Gyllenhaal replaces him as the Batman, I wonder who can possibly replace HC should such recasting or rebooting happen.

Who knows? They could go super young and cast the kid that plays the TV version. They could go for another unknown. They could cast a Hemsworth.

The shake-ups in WB/DC is starting to feel like an unending saga:

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/1987709/one-way-warner-bros-and-dc-are-trying-to-streamline-the-moviemaking-process

Some interesting paragraphs from this article:

The core of this development involves the positioning of Warner Bros. Pictures Chairman Toby Emmerich as the direct subordinate to Warner Bros. Entertainment CEO Kevin Tsujihara, as well as the decision to have Sue Kroll step down from her position as a DCEU producer. If this report from The Wrap is to be taken at face value, the aim here is to create a more cohesive sense of direction in which Emmerich and Emmerich alone will have the ability to greenlight DCEU projects...

The marketing of Justice League and the film's theatrical rollout has been cited as a prime example of the behind-the-scenes issues that Warner Bros. has faced. Between the film's Superman-less promotional campaign, as well as the rumored studio mandate that required the film to clock in at two hours, some have argued that too many people have had their hands on the wheel for the recent DCEU movies.

Although we cannot confirm exactly what happened outside the limelight, there's a certain amount of credence to these claims of too-many-cooks situations when we look at some of the drama that has taken place in the world of the DCEU over the last couple of years. From the constant problems and creative differences that have plagued The Flash's solo movie (which recently became The Flash: Flashpoint) to the decisions to release extended cuts of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice and Suicide Squad, we've seen a number of instances in which several parties have had hands in making major decisions.

If the DCEU truly is streamlining its creative process, then it looks like Warner Bros. might be taking a cue from the competition. From a producing standpoint, the Marvel Cinematic Universe mostly falls back on a few key players to make the bulk of the decisions, with the buck stopping at Marvel Studios CEO Kevin Feige. With fewer major decisions made by committee, the DCEU could soon start to feel like it has a stronger, singular vision, and a sense of forward momentum.

This is all confusing. Just a few days ago (or last week), there are reports that WB is looking into not following the Marvel model and just focus on ‘standalone, filmmaker-driven chapters that can coexist without relying on each other’... See:

http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/dc-entertainment/270002/dc-films-names-new-head

But now you have news like this which states that only Toby Emmerich would be able to greenlight DCEU projects. It seems to me they’re following the same model used in Marvel where CEO Kevin Feige is making all the decisions regarding the building of the MCU. Is Emmerich, Feige’s equivalent in DC?

Lots of changes continuing on in WB/DC, but whether this will translate to cast changes and even more reboots, not certain. So far, it seems only Batman is going to get a recast.

"Suicide Squad 2 is a priority for Warner Bros. and the studio reportedly hopes to begin filming this fall, making it one of two DC projects to get in front of cameras this year alongside Shazam!. Securing an additional new producer is a key part of getting this ball rolling, and if everything falls into place we just may see Suicide Squad 2 in theaters in the next year or two."

At this rate, HC can throw in the towel and be proactive for other projects. Otherwise, he'll be another Brandon waiting in vain for a sequel. Do the math, late this year 2018, two DC projects will go into production for 2019. If they do okay, I'm sure more projects will happen, but I think WB will play a wait-and-see game, so then, it is 2020 for another DC production. WW2 might be the film that does well, and it'll have another shoot for 2021.

http://collider.com/suicide-squad-2-new-producer-michael-de-luca-dceu/#warner-bros

@Poetist said:

"Suicide Squad 2 is a priority for Warner Bros. and the studio reportedly hopes to begin filming this fall, making it one of two DC projects to get in front of cameras this year alongside Shazam!. Securing an additional new producer is a key part of getting this ball rolling, and if everything falls into place we just may see Suicide Squad 2 in theaters in the next year or two."

At this rate, HC can throw in the towel and be proactive for other projects. Otherwise, he'll be another Brandon waiting in vain for a sequel. Do the math, late this year 2018, two DC projects will go into production for 2019. If they do okay, I'm sure more projects will happen, but I think WB will play a wait-and-see game, so then, it is 2020 for another DC production. WW2 might be the film that does well, and it'll have another shoot for 2021.

http://collider.com/suicide-squad-2-new-producer-michael-de-luca-dceu/#warner-bros

Wow! That is a good article. It just adds another layer of confusion and intrigue for me.

I am a bit confused on how the execs really work there in WB/DC. You hear of Walter Hamada being the head of the DCEU, but in another article you read it’s Toby Emmerich. It would be better if they just have a Kevin Feige who clearly shows he’s the head to build the universe. I think if they have a Feige equivalent, they could still have some autonomy amongst the productions of each film, but there is someone there to make a subtle suggestion here and there to connect them.

I do find it interesting that

• - the Snyders will not be listed as key producers along with Charles Roven after Aquaman
• - - Michael de Luca, the new producer, has the Fifty Shades of Grey series in his filmography (so he’s an interesting choice)
• - - there is no mention of the other production companies that had been instrumental in the production (probably financial?) of the DCEU films — I’m referring to Ratpac, the film production company owned by Brett Ratner. Given the current alleged sexual harrasment cases flung against him, it would be interesting if his company continues to be co-producer in numerous WB films (like the DCEU) or whether he would be removed, or kept as a silent partner
• - - Suicide Squad was chosen over The Flash, Green Lantern Corps, a second Justice League. Like BvS, Suicide Squad wasn’t a fave among critics, but it certainly brought in a lot of money even though it was not shown in China (it made nearly $748 million!). I do recall in the Box Office Board discussion on the IMDB that this movie’s box office demographics was more diverse. I wonder if the popularity of Margot Robbie’s Harlequin and maybe Will Smith pulling strings helped to get the production of this sequel to move more quickly than the other DCEU movies.

Batman and The Flash made an appearance in Suicide Squad. I wonder if Superman will make a cameo in the sequel. Amanda Waller (at least in the DC animated movies I saw) didn’t trust the JL, so it would be interesting if she brings the groups back together following the formation of JL.