Discuss 90 Day Fiancé

OK, I thought they were going to continue following the "Before the 90 Days" people, but apparently not.

So, I just tuned in tonight and I already know two of the people who are on this. I didn't remember Molly until she mentioned the show she used to have with her business partner. It was a very uncomfortable show to watch. I think I tuned in for about one, maybe two episodes before I stopped watching.

Then there's Nicole and Azan. This is the first I'm hearing of her daughter. I remember her from being on the show before. She's sweet, but I remember thinking at the time that she really needed to grow up (I know she was young then, so that was part of the problem) and she needed to understand more about his culture. Of course he's not going to be affectionate with her in public. That's not the way his culture is. And I don't think him being here is going to change that. The thing about her story though, is that I remember watching her two or three years ago at least, but she's saying it's only been a year since she met Azan??? Or is it that this stuff is taped a year or more in advance? And from what little I've seen, she still strikes me as someone who needs more maturity. OK, here's my problem with Nicole's family. The mother isn't very different from mine. "You need to grow up. You're not mature enough." But then she doesn't let Niclole grow up and learn what she needs to learn because she's always trying to control what Nicole does. So of course Nicole is going to be emotionally immature and insecure. Her mother is doing more harm than good. And she's so critical. So of course Nicole is ALWAYS going to go on the defensive with her. It's a disaster waiting to happen. And Morocco is not the place for Nicole, but her mother is going to drive her straight to living in that country just so she can get away from her mom. Which means she'll go essentially from one controlling situation to another. NOT GOOD.

The rest I'm waiting to see. Although the girl from Thailand (unless there's someone else I'm thinking of and just confusing her with the girl from Thailand) is reminding me of Anfisa. I hope I'm wrong in this. OK, yep, I'm confusing Annie with the other girl. Sorry about that. Still trying to learn everyone's names since tonight is the first night I've watched this season.

Yep, I'm concerned about David and Annie. David concerns me because he's living WAY beyond his means and just like Jorge, I don't think he's told Annie that he doesn't have any money. Strikes me as another Jorge and Anfisa waiting to happen.

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Oh, that never occurred to me. Yah, Azan no like. They have to have been doing video chat so he must know that her appearance hasn't changed.

@jonnieblack said:

Oh, that never occurred to me. Yah, Azan no like. They have to have been doing video chat so he must know that her appearance hasn't changed.

Oh, he knows. Did you catch the conversation w/Nicole and her mom about her weight? It seemed pretty clear that all parties knew she wasn't holding up to her end of the bargain with losing some weight.

Josh's girl knows exactly what she is doing. Polishing her English skills, studying up on the K1 Visa. I think he's right, she probably had many options but she chose him. I give them a reasonable chance of success.

Elizabeth, once the honeymoon period is over, you are going to be in a world of hurt. You are not even in the same country and he wants to supervise you. You won't be able to go anywhere without him? Unless he makes a major attitude adjustment this one is doomed.

Molly, shame on you for bringing this crap show into your home and your daughters' lives.

Larry and Annie (Thailand), you can't afford her, or any other wife for that matter. Get your shit together before you even think about remarrying.

Evelyn, I can't imagine anyone wanting to get married at your age, but she seems determined to go ahead with it. I just can't with the god will provide stuff. More likely your parents will provide.

Nicole, Azan is not into you. There are lots of guys in the middle east who would be attracted to her. The preference is for a bigger woman, and they love a blond. I think his preference lies elsewhere, like with his so called best friend.

OK, I watched entire episode so I have to revise my post.

Josh: You are a 43 year old man living with roommates. No way Chica from Manila is going to settle for that.

@jonnieblack said:

Josh's girl knows exactly what she is doing. Polishing her English skills, studying up on the K1 Visa. I think he's right, she probably had many options but she chose him. I give them a reasonable chance of success.

Say, what? Did you watch the same show I did?

Elizabeth, once the honeymoon period is over, you are going to be in a world of hurt. You are not even in the same country and he wants to supervise you. You won't be able to go anywhere without him? Unless he makes a major attitude adjustment this one is doomed.

I think she knows this, but she has the hots for this man. Once he lands in the US and if they get married, this will implode in a few years -- at best.

Molly, shame on you for bringing this crap show into your home and your daughters' lives.

Crap show? How about loser boyfriends?

Larry and Annie (Thailand), you can't afford her, or any other wife for that matter. Get your shit together before you even think about remarrying.

I think it will finally dawn on him that women aren't cheap, not the ones that are decent looking and will agree to be his gf.

Evelyn, I can't imagine anyone wanting to get married at your age, but she seems determined to go ahead with it. I just can't with the god will provide stuff. More likely your parents will provide.

Exactly! So crazy.

Nicole, Azan is not into you. There are lots of guys in the middle east who would be attracted to her. The preference is for a bigger woman, and they love a blond. I think his preference lies elsewhere, like with his so called best friend.

LOL. I have to disagree about "lots" of middle eastern men being drawn to Nicole's size.

@Poetist See my added comment about Aika. I hadn't watched the entire episode before my original post.

@jonnieblack said:

@Poetist See my added comment about Aika. I hadn't watched the entire episode before my original post.

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@Poetist said:

@jonnieblack said:

Josh's girl knows exactly what she is doing. Polishing her English skills, studying up on the K1 Visa. I think he's right, she probably had many options but she chose him. I give them a reasonable chance of success.

Say, what? Did you watch the same show I did?

Elizabeth, once the honeymoon period is over, you are going to be in a world of hurt. You are not even in the same country and he wants to supervise you. You won't be able to go anywhere without him? Unless he makes a major attitude adjustment this one is doomed.

I think she knows this, but she has the hots for this man. Once he lands in the US and if they get married, this will implode in a few years -- at best.

Molly, shame on you for bringing this crap show into your home and your daughters' lives.

Crap show? How about loser boyfriends?

Larry and Annie (Thailand), you can't afford her, or any other wife for that matter. Get your shit together before you even think about remarrying.

I think it will finally dawn on him that women aren't cheap, not the ones that are decent looking and will agree to be his gf.

Evelyn, I can't imagine anyone wanting to get married at your age, but she seems determined to go ahead with it. I just can't with the god will provide stuff. More likely your parents will provide.

Exactly! So crazy.

Nicole, Azan is not into you. There are lots of guys in the middle east who would be attracted to her. The preference is for a bigger woman, and they love a blond. I think his preference lies elsewhere, like with his so called best friend.

LOL. I have to disagree about "lots" of middle eastern men being drawn to Nicole's size.

I've been to several middle eastern countries. The western women they go for are bigger and blond.

@jonnieblack said:

I've been to several middle eastern countries. The western women they go for are bigger and blond.

I haven't been to a lot of middle eastern countries, only two; Morocco was one of them. I just didn't see that in Morocco, when I was there. In fact, I didn't even see any young obese people in Morocco, let alone blondes. Keep in mind, there are some women -- not a lot in comparison to other countries -- that wear a hijab.

I haven't been to Morocco but I know several women that have and they all say this. However, that was some years ago. Maybe things have changed.

OK, I am going to try not to be too hard on Evelyn, because she is young and obviously very inexperienced. But OMG, she is everything that is wrong with Americans. Smug, pampered, delusional, thinks no place else can measure up. Good god, why on earth is he attracted to her? Can't he find a virgin in Spain somewhere? Haven't they discussed where they are going to live? Why would anyone want to leave a vibrant place like Granada for bumf--- New Hampshire? Looks like she is going to be a bridezilla, too.

Thailand David, meh. It seems he has been in Thailand for some time, and he is surprised by engagement rituals? If you want to buy a young Thai wife then you should come prepared to do so.

I like Molly. She is funny, has a great personality, and seems to not take herself too seriously, unlike so many reality TV personalities. Not sure how the marriage is going to work out, but I like to watch her.

Elizabeth should slow her roll. This guy is bad news, I can just feel it. Now come to find out he has already tried to enter the US illegally? The best thing for her would be if they are denied the K1 visa.

Nicole and Azan, why oh why are they continuing this pretense? It has to be for the money from TLC. They can't stand each other.

@jonnieblack said:

What are donnettes?

Mini donuts I think.

Anyway, What you say may be true, but I know it was AT LEAST way back in 2015 that I saw them, and May was not mentioned then. I never saw a single episode of this show in 2016. At any rate, they are still very wrong for each other. She's still a child herself, and he is clearly expecting a subservient woman and MAYBE he thinks because of her immaturity he can mold her into the kind of woman he wants, but she's so stubborn I don't see it working out as he may have planned. And then there was Nicole's comment regarding May and how Azan should be setting an example of how he wants May to see men (like he's supposed to set the American example of May being a princess and being spoilt, and expecting a man to respect her and treat her as an equal). Well, he is setting the example he wants of what she should expect of a man. He's in charge, she is not, and she is to obey. Period. I just shook my head after she made the comment.

I feel really bad for Luis. Olivia is incredibly spoiled and selfish, and that is Molly's fault. I couldn't believe the way Molly let her talk to her. Even Luis said that if he'd behaved that way to his father he'd have gotten whooped. I would have too. But someone else pointed out to me that Molly seems to want to be Olivia's friend and not her parent. Unfortunately, when you go that route, you wind up with a child like Olivia. I hope she does better by her youngest daughter. I hope if Molly does marry Luis, that he can provide a better parenting role to the little girl. At least (for now) she seems to be accepting him. I think he would be a good role model for her.

@jonnieblack said:

Looks like she is going to be a bridezilla, too.

Well, I hear some good people turn Bridezilla. Hopefully, she will return to normal once the wedding is over.

Thailand David, meh. It seems he has been in Thailand for some time, and he is surprised by engagement rituals? If you want to buy a young Thai wife then you should come prepared to do so.

What they aren't supposed to fall down for him, because he's an American? That guy is a fool to the highest order.

I like Molly. She is funny, has a great personality, and seems to not take herself too seriously, unlike so many reality TV personalities. Not sure how the marriage is going to work out, but I like to watch her.

She's no Darcy. That's my queen of this 90-Day stuff.

Nicole and Azan, why oh why are they continuing this pretense? It has to be for the money from TLC. They can't stand each other.

Probably so.

Nicole and Azan: I think she loves him, but it's clear from her behavior he is not loving her so much anymore. And I can't blame him. I held pretenses/prejudices against him because he's Muslim (I admit it. And it's wrong, and I'm working on it), but the more I watch him and I watch her, she is the one who is the problem, not him. She's like Evelyn, I think. She expects him to take on American values and refuses to accept his culture. This is just not realistic. Add to this, that Nicole keeps secrets from him and then accidentally lets something slip and he gets mad (rightfully so). I think he could be a good father to May, but Nicole keeps getting in the way.

I like Molly too, but I think a lot of her sense of humor comes from her way too intense family. It's like she's compensating for them coming down on her a lot. And I feel bad for Luis because her family is so against him and won't give him a chance. Between Olivia and Molly's father, it's like hitting your head on a brick wall.

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