OK, my original thread is now 6 pages and 70+ replies long. Time for a new one.
Am I the only one who thinks Pao's "music video" is a set up by the show? I was LMAO about the caption for "Musical Artist." The whole production looked very amateurish.
That wasn't the funniest Mo ment though. That would be our man Mohammed's 007 move with his cell phone video.
Was anyone even slightly surprised by Alex's "surprise" visit?
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Reply by jonnieblack
on November 8, 2017 at 12:59 PM
I agree with Poetist about Andrei. She is walking on egg shells to avoid his negative behaviors. That is likely why he thinks she is perfect. She can't do that forever so hopefully her family is around when it all goes to hell.
Reply by Poetist
on November 13, 2017 at 3:48 AM
WTF is wrong with Molly's fiance? Seriously, when the mother said her daughter's sexuality is off limits, he needs to respect it. I don't know why he's so fixed on talking about it, when he sees the expression on the daughter and her friend's face.
Elizabeth better sign up for a restraining order along with that K-1 Visa, because if she thinks she has problems now -- just wait.
Color me blind, because I didn't see the anger from the drunk guy in Thailand.
Reply by jonnieblack
on November 13, 2017 at 5:41 PM
Molly: Maybe Luis is smoking a lot of weed in his down time? He always looks half asleep and that ****-eating grin he always has? Yeah, the comments about the daughter, "awk-ward" as the kids would say.
Elizabeth: Yup, he seems to be 5 seconds away from a rage attack at any given time. Why do so many women ignore this gigantic red flag?
Thailand: That one puzzles me too. I watched it twice and I didn't see the anger. She and his friend/enabler both commented on his drinking. If that is an issue, it seems that she already knows this. If she has a problem with it I would advise going back to the hostess bar and latching onto another old farong.
Reply by Poetist
on November 14, 2017 at 2:37 AM
She's too invested. Lord forbid she goes back home saying my bad. She rather take home a loser and go down in flames.
Yeah, I watched it twice, because I was dozing off. So, I thought I must have missed something but nope.
Reply by Poetist
on November 14, 2017 at 3:03 AM
What's up with that cake testing?
I've never seen a testing where there is unfrosted cake for you to spread on a frosting of your choice. Me not like, and I would find it hard to appreciate the cake.
Seriously, what if you want Bavarian cream between the layers or even whip cream?
Reply by jonnieblack
on November 14, 2017 at 3:06 AM
Agree. Very odd.
Reply by Poetist
on November 14, 2017 at 3:37 AM
And. . . this is Eveyln's version of a dream wedding? If she had taste, she wouldn't have gone to this bakery.
But. . . I guess we are not in the know, since I googled and saw quite a few of this type of cake testing.
When I would prefer it old school...
Reply by jonnieblack
on November 14, 2017 at 3:49 AM
I am definitely not in the know.
Reply by blacknyellowsquid
on November 14, 2017 at 7:11 PM
I'm not done with the episode yet but LOL I totally agree with this. I was going to say, I'm tired of his smug half-lidded look all the time, and then started to wonder if he's constantly high, too!
Reply by blacknyellowsquid
on November 14, 2017 at 8:05 PM
Okay some of my thoughts. Not in total agreement with you two this time!
First, yeah Luis and his half-lidded smug self are annoying. I don't see what she sees in him. They don't really seem on the same page. I guess it's just sexual chemistry that they have? I don't know. And his comments about f---- to the daughter did seem uncomfortable. His constant comments about her "body" and freedom to do with it what she wants almost seemed like he was putting out "grooming" feelers to me too. Blech. And Molly's all "OH nawww hunn that's not acceptabaaleee!" yet doesn't hesitate to move forward with him. k
Evelyn and David annoy me. He keeps whining, she keeps being stubborn. K'. I've heard of cake tasting before though, lol.
Okay, Andrei. Well, I guess I'd walk right into that trap because I don't see as obvious red flags as you two do. :/ (I could definitely be wrong for sure.) Maybe I'm doomed, lol! I feel like a lot of it is the language barrier. He is both blunt and guarded, but I felt she was continuously baiting him in that conversation at the bar. And he was right that he let her ramble on in nonsense but then she kept interrupting him when it was his turn to try to explain what he meant. What I gathered from his response was, YES, for Chrissake, it's okay to have a dang "girl's night." But he doesn't love the idea of her staying out till 4 a.m. at dang clubs. Is that wrong? I mean, yes, when you're college age, people like to go out and get sh*faced till all odd hours of the morning. But, even without being a creepy raging alpha male -- I, too, think it seems inappropriate for either the husband or wife to stay out till damn four, drinking, at a club, without the spouse. Why do that? You're married now, calm down. She's trying to make it like that's just how American woman do, or something. Uh, not me! (And even being eternally single as I am, I hate "clubbing" and always have.) And as far his ideas about the bachelorette or bachelor party. Me reading between the lines of the editing, what I gathered as he didn't like that idea for either the wife OR the husband (to have a party like that). To him, you go to a club to pick up a mate. And, I mean, he's kind of right, right? That's not just total "backwoods" Moldovan thinking, lol, c'mon. But, yes, the idea of bachelorette/bachelor's parties with strippers and all that crap is definitely an American "thing." Which, frankly, I don't get either. The last bachelorette party I went to was up in a cabin in a woods (with no males in sight). We canoed, played board games, did a wine-tasting. That's the kind of thing I like! Screw this getting drunk and having random naked men gyrate on you etc. Stupid. So I was actually in agreement with Andrei about all of that. However, I guess that doesn't mean he's still not a ticking time bomb in other ways. I'm still not sure.
And then David getting drunk, and neither of you seeing the problem. Lol, I have to admit, that scene was my red flag. No, it's not like he came up and whopped her across the head. But he was suddenly accusatory about why she wasn't sitting with him. And he was wobbling around. And his creeper friend even said he (David) had a problem with drinking. Maybe neither of you have been around someone with a drinking problem, but, whether they turn into a raging madperson or not, just seeing that difference in personality and lack of control is disturbing and upsetting. I have a parent with a drinking problem, (which turns an already angry person even angrier, lol)...so just seeing that swaying around and creepy way he was acting was bothering me, too. Seeing her upset as she was, and how that wasn't the first time, frankly is all I needed to see to believe it. And I actually wanted to tell her to go ahead and turn back now. She shouldn't ignore that red flag because it won't go to way. I felt bad for her thinking when she's in the US, she'll basically be stuck with that. My other parent noticed the other one's drinking problem before they were married, but hoped that was just bitterness over a divorce and that it would go away. It didn't, and it def caused problems. So...um. Blech. Spare me the wobbling drunk please. That scene kinda really bothered me. Again, not so much his actions, but her reaction told me all I needed to know (if that's a reoccurring problem) and his personality did seem to change.
[and it's funny maybe I didn't feel the same way about the scene with Darcey. Hmm. I'll have to think about that. I guess I just saw that more as ...crap what's his name, lol, I already forgot. The Dutch guy. Omg what's his name. Ken? No. haha. Anyway, I think I saw it more as him being controlling than her having a problem. But, maybe I should check my assumptions. Edit: Jesse! that's his name, LOL]
And, Josh, stop trying to force Aika to be a model. That's obnoxious. I hope that was scripted. Maybe he should have married Paola, LOL. I like Aika.
Reply by jonnieblack
on November 15, 2017 at 6:42 PM
Squid, I get your point about Andrei and Elizabeth. She did seem to be forcing that conversation about the girls nights and bachelorette parties. Makes me think the whole thing might have been scripted, so I guess we agree there. I also agree that married people generally would not be OK with their spouse partying in clubs until 4am on a regular basis. The reason I see danger with Andrei is that he seems to have contempt for authority, and pretty rigid ideas about gender roles.
I do see the issue about David and his drinking. I just didn't see the level of anger that Annie seemed to be concerned about. Maybe that has happened in the past when he was drinking and she was afraid that it would happen again? In any case, I think her family is pushing her into this marriage. It is stated over and over how poor they are, and she left her village to work in Bangkok, I am guessing in some kind of hostess bar where she probably met David. Didn't they make a comment about how lucky she is to have found such a great marriage? Of all the foreign fiances and spouses, I feel the most pity for her situation.
Reply by Satai Delenn
on November 15, 2017 at 8:54 PM
When are producers ever going to learn not to try and force things for drama or ratings? It almost always backfires and then they're left scrambling to clean up that mess.
Anyway, you all are right, I think, about David (Evelyn's David). I did notice that he was taking the "I'm the man, and I'm in control, and she's going to be MY wife, so just deal with it," kind of attitude, and I didn't like it either.
Aika. I'm not sure yet how I feel. She doesn't seem (yet) as bad as that commercial they initially showed her in which made her seem like another Anfisa. Aika seems more personable, and yes, a good fit for Josh. But I really didn't like him trying to push her to be a model. It's obvious she doesn't want to do it but was trying to appease him. I'm glad for her sake that the agency wasn't interested when she said she's eager to start a family. It's like it's not enough for the people around him to see he is going to have a trophy wife. He wants the world to see it. I was like, "Dude, be content. She seems to love you, but you're going to screw it up if you don't back off with this modeling thing. Just love the fact that she's on your arm. Be happy with that.
Yeah, Azan really seems to love May. But I think he's thinking that things would be perfect if Nicole was out of the picture, and I frankly don't blame him. And yes, I saw her stop the interview after he got upset with her about her not having told him she was out with a guy. She just doesn't seem to get it. She's doing all the wrong things and doesn't seem to see anything wrong with her behavior. I was cracking up though at the market with the turkeys and the chickens. But I was sympathizing big time over the sheep's head. That's just a big no to me. I kept thinking, "OK, where's the rest of the sheep???" At least she tried it though. I'm not sure I could have. And I loved the, "Well, don't you do this in America?" Um, NO! While I am well aware of where my meat comes from, and I'm not stupid enough to really believe that it "grows" in nice clean plastic wrapped packages, I'm really quite fine not seeing my food in its live condition JUST PRIOR to it being put on my plate. Thanks, but no. Oh, and no, I really think Nicole was expecting the aunt to be OK with her and Azan sharing a room without being married. That's just how she thinks.
Andrei? I saw some of his points, but he seems to go back on things. He first said he was OK with her going out with her sisters (and by extension her friends) for a girls' night, but then a little later changed his mind. I do agree though that if after they're married and she wants to go out with a mix group of people that he should be there with her. He needs to get over the "where" they're going too. I just see him trying to control her too much, and her getting into fights with her family over it, and her kowtowing to him to appease him. I don't see their relationship going well. And (in my experience) Ireland isn't much different from America. OK, you can't get a rare or medium-rare burger because it's literally against the law and no chef/cook will do it because they are trying to prevent Mad Cow and Foot and Mouth Disease, but otherwise, to me, it's no different than living here in America (and in some ways it's better). She just needs to give it a chance.
Luis keeps blowing things with the kids. He FINALLY got Olivia to come around and start giving him a chance and then he goes and starts talking about "taboo" subjects. I would have been uncomfortable too. He doesn't seem to have any boundaries with things. He seems to emotionally young right now. I don't think he's really ready for marriage AND two kids, one being so close to his age. And I've said this before, but whether he really has young nieces and nephews or not, if he does, he obviously hasn't spent much extended time with them or he'd have known not to push Kenesely because you're all right; she did take to him pretty easily and was accepting him UNTIL he started pushing her about the dad thing. You just don't do that to a kid her age. They have no filter and if they get pushed far enough, they're going to tell you EXACTLY what they think, and you are NOT going to like it! He brought that one on himself. As to Molly being with Luis as a rebellion, what did I miss there? Rebellion against what? She's in her 40s; what's left to rebel against?