@Jim666 said:

Does this read like someone who had a five film plan?

MH: When you came aboard Man of Steel, were you thinking in the back of your mind, "I could be the guy who gets to reboot Batman on film too!"

ZS: I gotta be honest, it definitely was a thing that... after Man of Steel finished and we started talking about what would be in the next movie, I started subtly mentioning that it would be cool if he faced Batman. In the first meeting, it was like, "Maybe Batman?" Maybe at the end of the second movie, some Kryptonite gets delivered to Bruce Wayne's house or something. Like in a cryptic way, that's the first time we see him. But then, once you say it out loud, right? You're in a story meeting talking about, like, who should [Superman] fight if he fought this giant alien threat Zod who was basically his equal physically, from his planet, fighting on our turf...  You know, who to fight next? The problem is, once you say it out loud, then it's kind of hard to go back, right? Once you say, "What about Batman?" then you realize, "Okay, that's a cool idea. What else?" I mean, what do you say after that? ...But I'm not gonna say at all that when I took the job to do Man of Steel that I did it in a subversive way to get to Batman. I really believe that only after contemplating who could face [Superman] did Batman come into the picture.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2014/04/17/exclusive-interview-with-zack-snyder-director-of-batman-vs-superman/#2c90be7c7bf4

Read the discussion between a fan and Jay Oliva (storyboard for MOS, BvS, and WW) on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/jayoliva1/status/987930376965210113

A fan asked Jay Oliva a few things on Twitter.

Fan: Can you tell us a little bit about it? Did you have certain scene pitch in mind? Was it always the idea of having the founding members (minus Green Lantern)? Can you tell us something about Zack’s overall plot for it?

https://twitter.com/edxgarcia/status/996958528328826881/photo/1

JO: I cannot go into any specifics but it was epic, grand, emotional, joyful and unforgettable....

https://twitter.com/jayoliva1/status/996961088120930304

We can’t blame ZS for JL, but we can blame him for BvS. It had nothing grand, emotional, joyful and unforgettable. It had the Martha moment, FCOL. It's hard to believe the mastermind behind the Martha moment can give me something grand, emotional, joyful and unforgettable in the next films.

There’s news about NG.

AD: Central Park Five. And New Gods is in early development and feeling good. Tweet

AD: I actually said: “Hey Guys, I wanna make a New Gods movie.” Then someone said ok. Tweet

WB can say yes quickly, but then it will take forever to hear something good. BOP is supposed to start filming in January, but there’s no news about the anti-heroines that will join HQ and who will be the villain. WTH are they waiting for?

DuVernay’s tweets should delight fans who have been wondering on what the status of the New Gods film was and it also shows that Warner Bros. is further committing to a more director-focused approach to their DC films. In the past, we have seen the studio ask directors (such as James Wan and John Francis Daley and Jonathan Goldstein) which films they would like to do, but this is one of the times where the director had an idea of which film they would like to do and they pitched their idea to the studio.

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@AnnaB said:

WB can say yes quickly, but then it will take forever to hear something good. BOP is supposed to start filming in January, but there’s no news about the anti-heroines that will join HQ and who will be the villain. WTH are they waiting for?

BOP rumors for you.

Things are starting to gradually come together over in Gotham City, with Cathy Yan's Birds of Prey movie providing new insights in recent days. Hopefully, over the next few weeks we'll hear even more news, but for now, we've already heard reports that the film could be used as a springboard to introduce Batgirl into the DCEU before her solo movie, and now it looks like the film may also include Black Canary and Huntress, as well.

Those heroes aren't the only characters who have been rumored for Birds of Prey at this stage of the game. On the villainous side of things, there are also rumors that The Penguin may factor into the story as a bad guy, which would set Oswald Cobblepot a role in Matt Reeves' The Batman. However, none of this has been confirmed yet, so we will need to wait and see what comes of these rumors.

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2430130/dcs-birds-of-prey-movie-rumored-to-be-adding-black-canary-more

@AnnaB said:

AD: I actually said: “Hey Guys, I wanna make a New Gods movie.” Then someone said ok. Tweet

HC should try that. “Hey Guys, I wanna produce MOS 2 and I aint got no time to lose.” Maybe that will scare them.

@Mike4U said:

@AnnaB said:

WB can say yes quickly, but then it will take forever to hear something good. BOP is supposed to start filming in January, but there’s no news about the anti-heroines that will join HQ and who will be the villain. WTH are they waiting for?

BOP rumors for you.

Things are starting to gradually come together over in Gotham City, with Cathy Yan's Birds of Prey movie providing new insights in recent days. Hopefully, over the next few weeks we'll hear even more news, but for now, we've already heard reports that the film could be used as a springboard to introduce Batgirl into the DCEU before her solo movie, and now it looks like the film may also include Black Canary and Huntress, as well.

Those heroes aren't the only characters who have been rumored for Birds of Prey at this stage of the game. On the villainous side of things, there are also rumors that The Penguin may factor into the story as a bad guy, which would set Oswald Cobblepot a role in Matt Reeves' The Batman. However, none of this has been confirmed yet, so we will need to wait and see what comes of these rumors.

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2430130/dcs-birds-of-prey-movie-rumored-to-be-adding-black-canary-more

The Penguin? And nothing about the Joker.

@HCFan said:

@AnnaB said:

AD: I actually said: “Hey Guys, I wanna make a New Gods movie.” Then someone said ok. Tweet

HC should try that. “Hey Guys, I wanna produce MOS 2 and I aint got no time to lose.” Maybe that will scare them.

You can't say that in HC's posh British accent. It will sound ridiculous.

@Blue-Rose said:

You can't say that in HC's posh British accent. It will sound ridiculous.

You’re probably right. HC is too stiff to talk like that. He can’t help it. Being stiff is part of being British.

@AnnaB said:

The Penguin? And nothing about the Joker.

Soon you'll have too much Joker. WB’s next brilliant move is to make two Joker films.

Warner Bros. envisions an extended DC Comics cinematic universe in which multiple actors can play the same character, having already given the go-ahead to an origin story with Joaquin Phoenix in the starring role.

Variety‘s sources report that Leto would not only star in but also executive produce the untitled standalone, giving him a say in how the movie staffs up in terms of writers, directors and fellow cast members.

http://entertainment.inquirer.net/278049/p2fb-jared-letos-joker-film-greenlit

@HCFan said:

Soon you'll have too much Joker. WB’s next brilliant move is to make two Joker films.

Warner Bros. envisions an extended DC Comics cinematic universe in which multiple actors can play the same character, having already given the go-ahead to an origin story with Joaquin Phoenix in the starring role.

Variety‘s sources report that Leto would not only star in but also executive produce the untitled standalone, giving him a say in how the movie staffs up in terms of writers, directors and fellow cast members.

http://entertainment.inquirer.net/278049/p2fb-jared-letos-joker-film-greenlit

Hamada’s new bio.

Recently, Warner Bros. updated its website and added a bio for Mr. Hamada. His official title is “President of DC-Based Film Production at Warner Bros. Pictures” (there’s still no official name for the DCEU). It sounds like he’s running things alone, with Geoff Johns taking on the role of a consultant or advisor. The new bio also confirms that Warner Bros. is planning movies on villains, not just superheroes, like The Joker origin movie and Birds of Prey Harley Quinn girl gang projects we’ve heard about. You can check out Hamada’s full new bio below.

President, DC-Based Film Production, Warner Bros. Pictures
Walter Hamada is President, DC-Based Film Production, Warner Bros. Pictures. In this role, he oversees WBP’s slate of films based on Super Heroes and Super-Villains from DC, as well as titles based on other characters and stories also licensed from DC, including its Vertigo and MAD Magazine imprints. Hamada draws upon resources from across both WBP and New Line Cinema and works closely with Geoff Johns, President and Chief Creative Officer, DC Entertainment.

Prior to his current role, Hamada served as Executive Vice President, Production at New Line Cinema, having joined the company in 2007 as Senior Vice President, Production. Among the films he worked on during his decade-long tenure are Friday the 13th, Final Destination, A Nightmare on Elm Street, the global blockbusters The Conjuring, The Conjuring 2, Annabelle and Annabelle: Creation, which together comprise the highest-grossing horror franchise of all time, and IT, the highest-grossing horror film of all time.

Before New Line, Hamada spent four years as a partner at the management and production firm H2F Entertainment. Prior to that, he ran development for MBST Entertainment. Hamada began his career at TriStar Pictures where he ultimately served as Vice President, Production for Columbia Pictures.

https://batman-news.com/2018/06/04/warner-bros-adds-interesting-bio-for-dc-films-president-walter-hamada/

@HCFan said:

Soon you'll have too much Joker. WB’s next brilliant move is to make two Joker films.

Warner Bros. envisions an extended DC Comics cinematic universe in which multiple actors can play the same character, having already given the go-ahead to an origin story with Joaquin Phoenix in the starring role.

Variety‘s sources report that Leto would not only star in but also executive produce the untitled standalone, giving him a say in how the movie staffs up in terms of writers, directors and fellow cast members.

http://entertainment.inquirer.net/278049/p2fb-jared-letos-joker-film-greenlit

OMFG!!!! This is crazy. WB can't be this crazy. They can't make two Joker films.

@HCFan said:

Soon you'll have too much Joker. WB’s next brilliant move is to make two Joker films.

Warner Bros. envisions an extended DC Comics cinematic universe in which multiple actors can play the same character, having already given the go-ahead to an origin story with Joaquin Phoenix in the starring role.

Variety‘s sources report that Leto would not only star in but also executive produce the untitled standalone, giving him a say in how the movie staffs up in terms of writers, directors and fellow cast members.

http://entertainment.inquirer.net/278049/p2fb-jared-letos-joker-film-greenlit

What a waste of money. Comic book character fatigue!

@Jim666 said:

The comic purists are worried too.

Afronerd is a Black-male-orientated podcast that discusses comics and Sci-Fi movies.

They liked her other work and gave it rave reviews. But they basically felt that she wasn’t the right person to helm this New Gods project, and they used “A Wrinkle In Time” as proof.

In my opinion, it’s not about Duvernay’s directing but rather the material.

In the case of “The New Gods,” Duvernay would be tasked to make a movie based on a comic book that is mostly known by purists. DCEU couldn’t even turn “Justice League” into a hit, yet they think they have the formula for “New Gods?” A large majority couldn’t even name a New God if you gave them money to do it.

https://qcitymetro.com/2018/03/23/optics-critiquing-ava-duvernay/

Everybody knows WB's weakness except WB.

Arguably, the biggest flaw in the DCEU’s game plan so far has been the all-consuming desire to make ensemble films, an approach that, simply, hasn’t paid dividends. This was compounded by the dismal critical and financial reaction to Justice League — the DCEU’s lowest-grossing movie ever — leaving many fans assuming course correction would soon be put into place to streamline and focus the studio’s superhero narrative once again.

Sadly, given how things are apparently progressing with the Birds of Prey movie, it doesn’t appear any lesson has been learned. In fact, it seems that Warner Bros. is indeed destined to repeat mistakes of the past.

The DCEU should be building towards group films, not just throwing them out to audiences again and again.

This packed-cast approach hasn’t been a strength for Warner Bros., with every ensemble film thus far coming off way too convoluted.

https://www.cbr.com/birds-of-prey-justice-league-lessons-ignored/

@Jim666 said:

Everybody knows WB's weakness except WB.

Arguably, the biggest flaw in the DCEU’s game plan so far has been the all-consuming desire to make ensemble films, an approach that, simply, hasn’t paid dividends. This was compounded by the dismal critical and financial reaction to Justice League — the DCEU’s lowest-grossing movie ever — leaving many fans assuming course correction would soon be put into place to streamline and focus the studio’s superhero narrative once again.

Sadly, given how things are apparently progressing with the Birds of Prey movie, it doesn’t appear any lesson has been learned. In fact, it seems that Warner Bros. is indeed destined to repeat mistakes of the past.

The DCEU should be building towards group films, not just throwing them out to audiences again and again.

This packed-cast approach hasn’t been a strength for Warner Bros., with every ensemble film thus far coming off way too convoluted.

https://www.cbr.com/birds-of-prey-justice-league-lessons-ignored/

No lesson has been learned. They keep people like ZS and GJ around, don't they?

@ComicBookGuy said:

Recently, Warner Bros. updated its website and added a bio for Mr. Hamada. His official title is “President of DC-Based Film Production at Warner Bros. Pictures” (there’s still no official name for the DCEU). It sounds like he’s running things alone, with Geoff Johns taking on the role of a consultant or advisor. The new bio also confirms that Warner Bros. is planning movies on villains, not just superheroes, like The Joker origin movie and Birds of Prey Harley Quinn girl gang projects we’ve heard about. You can check out Hamada’s full new bio below.

https://batman-news.com/2018/06/04/warner-bros-adds-interesting-bio-for-dc-films-president-walter-hamada/

SS, BOP, Joker, Deathstroke… DC is going villain. That’s something MC hasn’t done yet.

New developments in its comics and films suggest the company is trying to thrive by focusing on an area Marvel Studios has yet to exploit.

There’s a rise in villainy that is taking hold of the DC Universe — a rise that’s occurring in the comics and its in cinematic counterparts. This week saw two major developments on the dark side of DC. The first was the news of a Joker solo movie starring Jared Leto, who would reprise his role from Suicide Squad (2016).

The second of the week’s developments came in the pages of Scott Snyder and Jim Cheung’s Justice League No. 1 which not only successfully relaunches the series, but officially introduces the supervillain supergroup, the Legion of Doom, into modern comic continuity. While these two developments are divided by medium, they do showcase an increased awareness in the popularity of bad guys as protagonists, and may point to a potential for synchronicity between DC’s comic and film divisions.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/dc-movie-universe-is-going-villains-

@ComicBookGuy said:

@ComicBookGuy said:

Recently, Warner Bros. updated its website and added a bio for Mr. Hamada. His official title is “President of DC-Based Film Production at Warner Bros. Pictures” (there’s still no official name for the DCEU). It sounds like he’s running things alone, with Geoff Johns taking on the role of a consultant or advisor. The new bio also confirms that Warner Bros. is planning movies on villains, not just superheroes, like The Joker origin movie and Birds of Prey Harley Quinn girl gang projects we’ve heard about. You can check out Hamada’s full new bio below.

https://batman-news.com/2018/06/04/warner-bros-adds-interesting-bio-for-dc-films-president-walter-hamada/

SS, BOP, Joker, Deathstroke… DC is going villain. That’s something MC hasn’t done yet.

New developments in its comics and films suggest the company is trying to thrive by focusing on an area Marvel Studios has yet to exploit.

There’s a rise in villainy that is taking hold of the DC Universe — a rise that’s occurring in the comics and its in cinematic counterparts. This week saw two major developments on the dark side of DC. The first was the news of a Joker solo movie starring Jared Leto, who would reprise his role from Suicide Squad (2016).

The second of the week’s developments came in the pages of Scott Snyder and Jim Cheung’s Justice League No. 1 which not only successfully relaunches the series, but officially introduces the supervillain supergroup, the Legion of Doom, into modern comic continuity. While these two developments are divided by medium, they do showcase an increased awareness in the popularity of bad guys as protagonists, and may point to a potential for synchronicity between DC’s comic and film divisions.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/dc-movie-universe-is-going-villains-

Well, they must do something. However, Venom and Phoenix aren't exactly heroes. But they're not MCEU.

@ComicBookGuy said:

@ComicBookGuy said:

Recently, Warner Bros. updated its website and added a bio for Mr. Hamada. His official title is “President of DC-Based Film Production at Warner Bros. Pictures” (there’s still no official name for the DCEU). It sounds like he’s running things alone, with Geoff Johns taking on the role of a consultant or advisor. The new bio also confirms that Warner Bros. is planning movies on villains, not just superheroes, like The Joker origin movie and Birds of Prey Harley Quinn girl gang projects we’ve heard about. You can check out Hamada’s full new bio below.

https://batman-news.com/2018/06/04/warner-bros-adds-interesting-bio-for-dc-films-president-walter-hamada/

SS, BOP, Joker, Deathstroke… DC is going villain. That’s something MC hasn’t done yet.

New developments in its comics and films suggest the company is trying to thrive by focusing on an area Marvel Studios has yet to exploit.

There’s a rise in villainy that is taking hold of the DC Universe — a rise that’s occurring in the comics and its in cinematic counterparts. This week saw two major developments on the dark side of DC. The first was the news of a Joker solo movie starring Jared Leto, who would reprise his role from Suicide Squad (2016).

The second of the week’s developments came in the pages of Scott Snyder and Jim Cheung’s Justice League No. 1 which not only successfully relaunches the series, but officially introduces the supervillain supergroup, the Legion of Doom, into modern comic continuity. While these two developments are divided by medium, they do showcase an increased awareness in the popularity of bad guys as protagonists, and may point to a potential for synchronicity between DC’s comic and film divisions.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/dc-movie-universe-is-going-villains-

Another idiot.

Last week, AT&T completed its acquisition of Time Warner and its media assets, including HBO, Warner Bros., CNN and the Turner networks. Those divisions will now be named WarnerMedia, with AT&T veteran John Stankey serving as CEO. Now, Stankey has commented on how much involvement he will have with Warner Bros.’ DC films:

“First of all, I think the performance [of DC movies] over the past year and a half is trending the right direction in terms of the quality of the product and how the franchise is being managed. So hats off to Kevin [Tsujihara] and the team around getting the momentum headed the right direction. Obviously, there were some public things that have occurred over the last couple of weeks [Diane Nelson and Geoff Johns, who ran DC Entertainment, both stepped down] that would indicate that some additional change is under way. My involvement in that is to make sure I support Kevin in getting the absolute best talent possible and we’ll take that franchise to the next level. That’s his set of decisions to make and his direction to go in.

It’s my job to facilitate, to make sure he has the full support of the corporation and getting that done. And I believe, as you sit here today and we start to think about what the new value proposition is for a combined Warner Media and AT&T, we obviously want to go to creatives and talk about what we can do with our platforms now that are different than what a standalone Time Warner could do prior to the transaction. That’s a unique opportunity and I want to make sure I can help Kevin sell that and get the right amount of talent in here to elevate the franchise to a new level.”

https://heroichollywood.com/warnermedia-dc-plans-att-time-warner/

These people don’t know what quality is. BvS was bad and JL was worse. WW was the only decent DC film.