But I do find it intriguing to know that his parents discouraged him to go to drama school. Why mention it now, but not in past interviews? In past interviews, HC has consistently expressed the view that he does not put much value in formal education in acting:
You can have a guy, who trained for 15 years in all the best schools, who won’t be as good as the guy who never trained
He probably mentioned it because someone told him to not tell the "Fat Cavill" story again
What he says is not untrue, sometimes that is true about the "never trained" person being as good or better. But, in Henry's case, I think he could use extra training. I don't think he is a bad actor by any means, but eventually I think people will get bored with him, unless he branches out and does a role that is quite different than what he has given us thus far. The school and training those actors go through, teach them to become a character, no matter how silly. I watched an interview with Tobias Menzies and he was talking about once in school they had to pretend to be an animal in its habitat, and he chose a "honey bear". Stuff like that, I think would help Henry, he doesn't always have to be the hero.
I'm looking forward to Nomis. I'm hoping for something different.
But I do find it intriguing to know that his parents discouraged him to go to drama school. Why mention it now, but not in past interviews? In past interviews, HC has consistently expressed the view that he does not put much value in formal education in acting:
You can have a guy, who trained for 15 years in all the best schools, who won’t be as good as the guy who never trained
He probably mentioned it because someone told him to not tell the "Fat Cavill" story again
Well, that interview was over 2 years old, and he was promoting MFU. Translation: it was a short break. Flash forward: The natural fact is Fat Cavill is back.
What he says is not untrue, sometimes that is true about the "never trained" person being as good or better. But, in Henry's case, I think he could use extra training.
He needs to see that. Mentioning examples of others NOT needing training doesn't always make it true for yourself.
He needs to see that. Mentioning examples of others NOT needing training doesn't always make it true for yourself.
I think he was low key talking about himself. IMO
Oh, I know he was, but alluding to how he can get by w/o training just like others doesn't mean anything for him. I believe HC was able to get the roles he did due to his looks not by any real acting. Once they go, what does he have?
But I do find it intriguing to know that his parents discouraged him to go to drama school. Why mention it now, but not in past interviews? In past interviews, HC has consistently expressed the view that he does not put much value in formal education in acting:
You can have a guy, who trained for 15 years in all the best schools, who won’t be as good as the guy who never trained
He probably mentioned it because someone told him to not tell the "Fat Cavill" story again
LOL! But still, you would think he would have mentioned it before given apart from the ‘Fat Cavill’ narrative, there’s also his ‘origins story’ which begins with the intriguing story of meeting Russell Crowe, being discovered for a part in Monte Christo. From there, he could have mentioned why he didn’t bother going to drama school (ie due to his parents) given he had been asked before about any acting training he got.
What he says is not untrue, sometimes that is true about the "never trained" person being as good or better. But, in Henry's case, I think he could use extra training. I don't think he is a bad actor by any means, but eventually I think people will get bored with him, unless he branches out and does a role that is quite different than what he has given us thus far. The school and training those actors go through, teach them to become a character, no matter how silly. I watched an interview with Tobias Menzies and he was talking about once in school they had to pretend to be an animal in its habitat, and he chose a "honey bear". Stuff like that, I think would help Henry, he doesn't always have to be the hero.
This had been discussed before on the IMDB, and I remember Drayna mentioning other actors who never had formal acting lessons (ie going to a university, college or some specialised school like Julliard), but still made the effort of taking classes or hiring acting coaches here and there, even while they were working already. I do remember when I was reading about Brad Pitt’s early days as an actor, just starting out in Hollywood, he was told by one casting director after one unsuccesful audition that ‘that he had great looks for the screen, but that he needed to take acting lessons’.
One actor I could think of who didn’t have any formal training (and probably didn’t take any lessons either) is Christian Bale. But then CB has a reputation of being an ‘intense’ actor — the lengths he would go through to get a part and really prepare for a part (like in The Machinist) could be considered extreme. He also pursues different types of roles (not just heroes, like Batman), and wouldn’t mind starring in independent films early on in his career. So yes, there are actors out there who are really ‘good’ even without the training, but as an actor HC is not a Christian Bale. However, as a person, I think HC is better to work with than Bale. I couldn’t imagine HC having a tantrum on the set like CB.
He needs to see that. Mentioning examples of others NOT needing training doesn't always make it true for yourself.
I think he was low key talking about himself. IMO
Oh, I know he was, but alluding to how he can get by w/o training just like others doesn't mean anything for him. I believe HC was able to get the roles he did due to his looks not by any real acting.
Well, he did get ‘discovered’ for the role in the Count of Monte Christo for his looks. Since then, most of his roles required his great ‘classic’ looks — whether it’s for his role in I Capture the Castle to his bigger roles in The Immortals, Man From Uncle and Superman. Only recently, his looks were not that important (ie Sandcastle, Nomis).
Once they go, what does he have?
There is always dark chocolate or white chocolate and his cute doggy.
HC Not many girls would not like a pair of snazzy high-heeled shoes despite what they say.
Poetist: Did this actually spill out of his mouth?
I am hoping that maybe the reporter from the Inquirer where that interview quote came from, misquoted him or something. Otherwise, he sounds kind of sexist. The timing of it too was also suspicious close to the time when some actresses protested in Cannes because some women were not allowed to go into some screenings if they didn’t wear high-heeled shoes.
HC’s Man of From Uncle press conference happened around July 2015.
HC Not many girls would not like a pair of snazzy high-heeled shoes despite what they say.
Poetist: Did this actually spill out of his mouth?
I am hoping that maybe the reporter from the Inquirer where that interview quote came from, misquoted him or something. Otherwise, he sounds kind of sexist. The timing of it too was also suspicious close to the time when some actresses protested in Cannes because some women were not allowed to go into some screenings if they didn’t wear high-heeled shoes.
HC’s Man of From Uncle press conference happened around July 2015.
...but eventually I think people will get bored with him, unless he branches out and does a role that is quite different than what he has given us thus far.
he doesn't always have to be the hero.
It seems like you have a problem with the roles, not his acting per se. You want him to be the bad guy. I want that too. And he doesn't have to be the lead either. I liked him in Sandcastle.
But thus far the roles that Cavill had weren't really meaty. And the films were subpar too.
I studied philosophy and I know that to say "I haven't changed" is very much a contradiction in terms because what you "feel" that you haven't changed may not be so for an outsider, who often notices the change before you do.
There is a difference between the I haven’t changed a bit comment and the I felt like my life was going to change for ever comment. The former is a claim and the latter is a description.
Cavill claims that he hasn’t changed a bit. He's not the first claiming that and he won't be the last. On this side of the planet, people are free to claim that. It doesn't matter what any outsider thinks.
But since you want to include outsiders, did it cross your mind that outsiders may have been the ones to tell Cavill that he hasn’t changed a bit? Perhaps that's why he's so sure that he hasn’t changed a bit. But it should be obvious that Cavill meant his personality, because his situation has obviously changed.
When Cavill said he felt like his life was going to change forever, he simply described how he felt when he was experiencing certain events. Those events made him feel like his life was going to change forever. We all feel a certain way when we're experiencing things in our lives.
Did the events change Cavill's life forever? Cavill doesn't confirm they did. And you shouldn't assume they did. And you certainly shouldn't use that assumption to say that he contradicts himself. You don't even know what he meant with change his life. Change his life how? Cavill is still young and hasn't really lived forever yet. Over a 100 hundred years, when he's lying on his deathbed, we should ask him if the events really changed his life forever.
It's not like the fans are rounding on him for dating some girl, or throwing stones at him whenever he's out in the open. Unless he's getting threats - in which case he should go to the police instead of ranting about it in an interview
Why do you people keep insisting that Cavill's rant is about people hating him? His rant is about people hating on his girlfriend/loved ones, not just him. Hate him, if you want, but leave his loved ones out of it. They're not the ones getting paid millions.
And Cavill at least rants about something that's actually affecting him and people he cares about. You people are here ranting and getting all bend out of shape over a stranger and over things that don't affect/concern you at all.
DM ran a satirical post about Lucy not a party animal whilst posting pics of her bleary eyed and gulping drinks at a party. Why not call out the Daily Fail?
I heard about that, but I haven't read it yet. Also, I didn't know it was a satire. So post a link if you can.
But based on what you're saying, I don't see any kind of problem. A satire is meant to criticize in a humorous way. And I assume it was a one time thing.
If Cork was drunk, then she was drunk. If you don't want people to criticize you and or make fun of your drunkenness, then don't get drunk in public. Behave when you're out in public, because cameras are everywhere.
But there is a difference between the satirical post (one time, true and meant to be humorous) and an IG page made with the sole purpose of hating on someone every day. Lies are being spread to instigate others to hate on someone. It's almost character assassination.
Oh and just now
I saw some extremely fawning fans questioning HC why he didn't rate "My Lucy" as one of his life-altering events on his IG. What you make of that?
What I make of that? Well, you're a hater disguised as an extremely fawning fan on Cavill's IG.
With that said, let me see what I can make of this "My Lucy" affair so you can stop cracking your brain trying to figure out something that neither affects nor concerns you.
What is known is that 3 events gave Cavill the feeling like his life was going to change forever. The events that cause that feeling were all big and a first -- his first acting job, his first MAJOR iconic role, his first pet (dog lovers consider getting a dog like having a kid).
About being a first. This one is easy. Cork is not Cavill's first girlfriend. Also, King, Gonzalo, Cuoco, Carano and Whitaker were not his first girlfriends.
About being big. This requires a more old fashion way of looking at things. Family as the building block of society and traditions like that.
For someone who grew up with both parents, getting a partner may not be such a big thing. You may grow up thinking that's how your life will be too. At some point you'll get a partner and have kids. That's what humans do. That may be what you're expected to do. But your parents can also give you an idea on how husband and wife interact with each other.
So when you get a partner, get engaged or even get married, you may not experience these events as life-altering because (un)consciously you were already preparing for them all your life. It may feel more like a natural progression. Unlike marriage, getting a partner or engaged doesn't require you to sign anything. So these steps may be even easier to take. All you do is make a promise and a promise can easily be broken.
Since I mentioned engagement, in Cavill's case, he got engaged to Whitaker after getting his first MAJOR iconic role. He lost the Superman role once, remember? Now image how it must have felt to get it this time around. It's hard for something common like an engagement to top that. I think Cavill was so overwhelmed with joy and the feeling that his life was really going to change forever that he was unable to feel anything else. The engagement probably got lost in all that.
No one is bullying his loved ones. He said IF they hurt his loved one. In the meantime, he needs to shut up and be humble.
Dude, if Cavill isn't the humble gay you want him to be, why are you here? You're the one who should shut up and stop twisting people's words. Where is that IF from? Cavill clearly said: As soon as I get into a relationship, a slew of hate, directed at me as well as the girl....
So his loved one is being hurt because of the slew of hate directed at her. IG pages are made to solely hate on the girl because she's dating Cavill. Don't you think he knows that? Cork isn't the first victim either.
Cavill also said: As long as it doesn’t hurt anyone in my life, it is a good thing. As soon as it starts to affect people in my life, that’s when I draw back.
If it hasn't hurt anyone yet, Cavill would have said, but if it starts to affect people in my life, that’s when I'd draw back.
Lastly Cavill said: ...but none of that will be worth it if the people I love and who I want to walk that journey with are getting hurt and suffering because of that gain.”
I hope the IF in that sentence is not the IF you were referring to. Cavill already said that his girl gets a slew of hate. He also said what he does when things starts to affect people in his life.
If what is said on the internet bothers HC and Family, there is a freedom to not use it or go to a different site.
How cute. You think that haters are only on certain sites. This is a discussion board and yet you're here working overtime to turn it into a hate site.
But it's good to know you're pro bullies. Bullies are free to use the whole internet to bother other people and normal people should surf with caution or refrain from using the internet all together. I already told you that Donald Trump can really use a person like you.
They SHAPE your personality, therefore, they change it. A CEO of a company has to be poised around board members and stockholders. Day in and day out, that slowly transforms you. Even if you look back, everyone, for the most part, can say they've changed, just by the passing of time.
You change your behavior to play a role, not your personality.
Everybody's situation changes with time and everybody adjusts their behavior according to the "role" they're playing (business person, mother, wife, traveler, student). But unlike situation and behavior, someone's personality may not change ever.
Watsonjudy835 thinks that when your life change, you'll change. That's not true. You can't assume that someone's personality automatically changes when their situation change or when they adjust their behavior to play a certain role.
I suppose you never lived on an island or a small town for any amount of time. Jersey is a small island. It's only 46 miles long! People know who comes and goes.
Stop dodging the questions. Everybody knows people know each other on a small island or in a small town. But you're not from Jersey and yet you know what these people are doing. So you do have a way to spy on them. I always knew you're a stalker.
So pray tell us, how do you know that Cavill's parents spent all these holidays at home? How do you know they spent all these holidays at home and Cavill wasn't there? How many times did Cavill visit his parents in the last 5 years? Post links to evidence or quit trying to pass assumptions as fact.
Cavill was in Ibiza, London, Rome and Florida. He can easily visit his parents for a day each month without even the next door neighbor noticing him.
The first story was that his dad was upset, when he received a letter from the school congratulating him over his son's obtaining an acting job but leaving school. Now, I read that they seem to discount an education. Well, that's what I interpreted from the following line.
I don't remember reading that first story. Can you post a link?
I know that Cavill's parents discouraged him from attending drama school, but they always wanted him to get a degree to fall back on. So since they were never pro acting and Cavill already had an acting job, there was no reason to spend time and money on drama or any kind of school. Drama school is expensive and it may interfere with Cavill's working schedule.
Cavill's dad was probably upset because his son can't go to college and get a degree if he doesn't finish high school first. And being an actor is a big gamble. If Cavill doesn't keep getting work, he doesn't have any degree to fall back on. Any parent would be worried.
I think this whole drama school bit is to cover up the fact that he didn't complete school.
You must say something negative one way or another, right? When you want to hide something, you don't deliberately talk about it.
There's no doubt in what year Cavill left school, because the Rake article clearly states that he left in his penultimate year when he got the role in Monte Cristo. And his parents didn't think it was necessary to go back to school, let alone go to drama school. They clearly discouraged him from finishing school and continue studying! How does any of this hide that Cavill didn't complete school?
Didn't you point out a few weeks ago that with all the ongoing world problems, what are we doing wasting our time posting here?
Yes, I did point out the ongoing world problems sometime ago in another thread and just recently in this thread. But I never said that you people are wasting time posting here. Re-read my posts.
But seriously, if you follow the world of celebrity, most celebrities don't only present their filmography in their publicity CV or Wikipedia. They also present a list of the charities and causes they support. It's good for their public image to show they are aware of current world problems and show the appearance of doing something about it. HC's personal chosen focus is protecting endangered species (Durell) and providing for (British) soldiers' families, isn't it? Lately, HC has been shown sending warm messages to victims of natural disasters around the world, more so now compared to previous years.
I'm not sure why you're writing this to me. I'm well aware of this. I even wrote that celebrities promote products to earn more money and charities to give back. Why can't they address a problem?
And why assume that all celebrities do charity for their public image? When you become a celebrity you automatically lose all your humanity/empathy? Are you by any chance implying that Cavill is doing charity for his public image?
And Cavill is way more active on social media now than he was before. Perhaps he's finally getting the hang of it or he's simply more comfortable sharing now. And there are more (big) natural and man-made disasters happening everywhere now that he's more active on social media.
A discussion board can have both negative and positive threads. Have you created a positive thread?
You really don't think before you write, do you?
Off the top of my head, there are only positive threads (new/old pics, new/old interviews, new gf, new JL trailer and so forth) on this board. There are no Cavill is a jerk or I can't stand Cavill threads on this board. So why would I bother create a positive thread on a board with only positive threads?
You obviously don't even realize that the comments in the thread can turn a positive thread into a negative thread and a negative thread into a positive thread. So why would I bother create a positive thread if I can't withhold haters from posting negative comments in it?
So far, since you joined this board, you've called out Poetist a 'gay man', using the very same words used by a poster from IMDB whose been known to go from board to board posting racist, sexist and other hateful posts against HC, other celebrities and other posters. Why quote another poster with that kind of reputation?
Are you insane or something? I wasn't quoting anybody when I called Poetist a gay man. I'm of the opinion that he's a gay man who used to post on the anti Lucy Cork IG page using the name Ploughsharetortoise. I told him that in my post.
By the way, Blanc... wasn't the only one who called Poetist a gay man. There were Roxy..., Terror..., Doctor... and a few more way way before those 4 I mentioned. They weren't regular posters.
And what is negative about calling someone a gay man? Are you implying that being a gay man is a negative thing? In that case, why do you let your friend Poetist keep calling Cavill a gay man? Who's the hypocrite?
You posted a comment on another board negatively commenting that JL's trailer seems to be following the Marvel trend of infusing more humour into the movie. Your very good in calling us out for our negativity, when you yourself spew your own level of negativity.
You're desperately grasping at straws. Because you and your like-minded friends love internet bullying and love to wallow in negativity, you try to defend that behavior by coming up with foolish excuses and by keep saying that others do it on other boards too.
First off, I was talking about a film, not a person. Second off, what is negative about pointing out that JL is imitating Marvel? They are! Is an observation. Critics like Marvel because it's light and fun while they dislike the DCEU because it's too dark and grim.
The DCEU first copied The Dark Night style and failed. Now they're trying to copy Marvel, because of what the critics said. Things seem to be getting all muddled up, because they refuse to change the dark background. They think that cramming jokes into the scenes will make the film light.
AND pursue the goal to turn every single discussion board into a fan site clone.
No, their goal is to turn every single discussion board into a hate site. That's why IMDb closed down the boards. Haters were the ones more active on them.
If it was indeed his parents who didn’t think drama school is important, then I suppose it could be because they prefer that he pursue a more ‘practical course’ in university, if in case his acting career goes bust.
You may be on to something. Cavill's parents always wanted him to get a degree first and then go to drama school.
But I do find it intriguing to know that his parents discouraged him to go to drama school. Why mention it now, but not in past interviews? In past interviews, HC has consistently expressed the view that he does not put much value in formal education in acting:
Cavill said it in the past too. The following article was written May 29th, 2013.
Cavill:His father discouraged his acting ambitions at first. It was landing a role in a filmed adaptation of The Count of Monte Cristo when he was 17 that whipped him into shape."He wanted me to get a proper degree first, [but when I got the part] my dad, was like, 'Okay, you have a professional job now, so great, go for it.'" Henry shared.
° http://www.newshub.co.nz/entertainment/superman-henry-cavill-used-to-be-supersized-2013053006
This one was written before Man Of Steel premiered.
Cavill:My dad initially said, “Erm, OK, I know you love your stage stuff, but how about you go to university and get a degree so you have something to fall back on?” I couldn’t fault that logic, and thought I’d get a Foresters scholarship to university, perhaps study Egyptology, and if I still wanted to go to drama school after that then, yeah, maybe.
° https://www.shortlist.com/entertainment/films/henry-cavill/85548
Plus he has never shown any inclination going to acting classes or having an acting coach.
How do you know that? Cavill doesn't think that long formal acting education in the best schools guarantees you'll be an awesome actor. But he doesn't say anything about following acting classes (a short course) or having an acting coach.
I personally think that formal acting education shouldn't be long. Eithter you have it or you don't. A year training (or shorter) should be enough.
The timing of it too was also suspicious close to the time when some actresses protested in Cannes because some women were not allowed to go into some screenings if they didn’t wear high-heeled shoes.
You can't feel sympathy for Cavill when he complaints that internet bullies are hurting his loved ones because he wears expensive clothes and shoes, but people should care/sympathize/support a bunch of women in their super expensive clothes and shoes because they were refused entrance to some lavish thing for not having high heels.
Maybe Cavill thinks like you. There are bigger problems in the world. He doesn't have to watch what he says because of Cannes Shoe-Gate. Is not like these women were refused urgent medical care, nourishment or shelter, right? Cannes is pure luxury. Even if the whole shoe-gate wasn't a misunderstanding, you must follow the dress code, unless you're injured.
Besides, all those who had their million dollar high heels but thought it was unfair, do you see them or anybody on flats or barefoot now? No! I've never seen Julia Roberts barefoot on the red carpet. They all are still flaunting their super expensive high-heeled shoes on the red carpet.
Do these women tell the designers no, I'll go barefoot or wear flats or no, I'll buy a cheap one and donate the rest to charity? No, they take all the expensive gifts or buy solely super expensive stuff to flaunt them on the red carpet. I even heard them say on the red carpet that the shoes are pretty, but they can't wait to take them off. Some even showed the flats they carry in their purse. And because it's flat doesn't mean it's cheap.
So Cavill's comment is true. Many women hate high-heeled shoes, because it's not really that comfortable and it's not really good for your body either. But many women will complain about them and then turn around and buy them anyway. I'm one of those women.
But I doubt Cavill even thought about Cannes when he said that. They were talking about the shopping scene in UNCLE. And what he said about women and high-heeled shoes is kind of common knowledge.
I'm not a hater, nor am I a fawning fan, and I don't even have an IG. I'm hanging around merely to see if HC will finally talk about that time he went to a gay bar in Brazil (or Mexico?) in his interview.
I don't know why you always need to be so aggressive in your response. It is a discussion board and people are allowed to disagree with one another. I try not to be snappy in my comments because I know everyone is entitled to his opinion and I'm no judge to decide who's right or wrong.
Phoebe is an example of someone who doesn't turn the whole forum into a battle field when she disagrees with us. At the end of the day we all agree to disagree. If you're having a problem with that then maybe a fan site like HC News, where adverse comments are immediately deleted by the moderator, will be more to your liking.
No! I've never seen Julia Roberts barefoot on the red carpet.
You may not have seen her. But a lot of people did, so much so that it’s well documented in the internet in dozens of sites, images and articles.
Julia Robert has been well known to have graced several awards barefoot. And if you consider a red carpet on the wedding aisle, she was barefoot when she married her first husband Lyle Lovett.
You can't feel sympathy for Cavill when he complaints that internet bullies are hurting his loved ones because he wears expensive clothes and shoes, but people should care/sympathize/support a bunch of women in their super expensive clothes and shoes because they were refused entrance to some lavish thing for not having high heels.
And I still can’t sympathise with him. But feel free to do so, because that seems to be your main purpose in life. His halo is so bright for you.
I could relate more to those women, because I do question why can’t they wear more comfortable shoes if they wanted to? They were beautiful enough and many have accomplished a lot, but yet the awards still insists they wear heels.
Maybe Cavill thinks like you. There are bigger problems in the world.
Greatly doubt it. If he can still find something to complain about with his million plus earnings, I doubt he’s dwelling much on world events. He simply made a sweeping remark that all women likes high-heeled shoes, which when you think about it, if he was really thinking of current world events, then he’ll know some women may actually prefer equal pay and treatment, education, better future for their children, 3 meals a day, health care — you know those things you think about before cheap or expensive uncomfortable shoes.
He doesn't have to watch what he says because of Cannes Shoe-Gate.
Nope, he doesn’t. But it doesn’t stop some people from thinking he’s being a bit sexist and have a narrow view about women.
Is not like these women were refused urgent medical care, nourishment or shelter, right?
Nope. So yes, in the greater scheme of things they’re ok and doing well. Just like HC, in the greater scheme of things, he’s ok too and doing much better than a great segment of the world population. Great, you are learning!
Cannes is pure luxury. Even if the whole shoe-gate wasn't a misunderstanding, you must follow the dress code, unless you're injured.
Once upon a time, the dress code for women was to wear tight corsets and in one period wear poofy high wigs. Some dress codes can be broken...
So Cavill's comment is true. Many women hate high-heeled shoes, because it's not really that comfortable and it's not really good for your body either. But many women will complain about them and then turn around and buy them anyway. I'm one of those women.
Not really. And it is also why he’s comment may be viewed as sexist by some women. He speaks as if all women covets high-heeled shoes. Just because you’re one of those women who hates but buys them anyway, you don’t speak for all women either. I don’t like high-heeled shoes, and because of my bad back I can’t wear them either. Neither do I and many other women choose to buy them. And unlike Cannes, there are lots of places in the world that thankfully allow women in for wearing comfortable shoes.
And why assume that all celebrities do charity for their public image?
Because as Forbes magazine stated in several articles such as this article: ‘Like a good tax advisor, a charitable connection is now considered essential for a serious celebrity building a brand.’
When you become a celebrity you automatically lose all your humanity/empathy?
Nope, assuming they have it to begin with. But as the article said, it never hurts for them to publicly show it to improve their public image. So with celebrities supporting causes and charities, I’d say some of them truly support them , while at the same time their handlers are telling them that it is good for their image to support them.
Are you by any chance implying that Cavill is doing charity for his public image?
In my opinion, he is doing them because he truly believes in them, but also partly because it’s good for his image and it could help with the promotion of his film. The symbiotic relationship between charities and celebrities promotes several motivations as to why a celebrity will take on a charity, and why a charity will take on a celebrity.
And Cavill is way more active on social media now than he was before. Perhaps he's finally getting the hang of it or he's simply more comfortable sharing now.
A discussion board can have both negative and positive threads. Have you created a positive thread?
You really don't think before you write, do you?
Actually, I do. I have to because English is not my first language.
Off the top of my head, there are only positive threads (new/old pics, new/old interviews, new gf, new JL trailer and so forth) on this board. There are no Cavill is a jerk or I can't stand Cavill threads on this board. So why would I bother create a positive thread on a board with only positive threads?
Because you said this board is full of negative posts, so one would assume starting a positive thread is the way to go.
You obviously don't even realize that the comments in the thread can turn a positive thread into a negative thread and a negative thread into a positive thread. So why would I bother create a positive thread if I can't withhold haters from posting negative comments in it?
Check my post up there, I did say, ‘a discussion board can have both negative and positive threads’. So you can assume that within a thread, I KNOW it can have both positive and negative posts.
Poetist and I have started threads on this board, knowing full well that eventually people who do not agree with our posts would join in. We don’t own TMDB, so that’s a given.
Why would you like to withhold ‘haters’ from posting on your thread if you recognise this site is not a fan site? And if that is what you desire, why don’t you stick with a fan site?
Are you insane or something? I wasn't quoting anybody when I called Poetist a gay man. I'm of the opinion that he's a gay man who used to post on the anti Lucy Cork IG page using the name Ploughsharetortoise. I told him that in my post.
By the way, Blanc... wasn't the only one who called Poetist a gay man. There were Roxy..., Terror..., Doctor... and a few more way way before those 4 I mentioned. They weren't regular posters.
Roxy was a regular. Doctor Love (ImnotthatkindofaDoctor) stopped posting on the board and moved to WDW and Henry’s Harem. I cannot imagine her calling Poetist a gay man on the board because she has always been courteous and nice to everyone on IMDB even to Blanc or Terror. You seem to know a lot of the former IMDB posters, you sure you weren’t influenced by some of them to call Poetist a gay man?
And what is negative about calling someone a gay man? Are you implying that being a gay man is a negative thing? In that case, why do you let your friend Poetist keep calling Cavill a gay man? Who's the hypocrite?
Oh please, in the context of your post, you are calling her out as a gay man because you wanted to be mean, and you are angry with her for her posts. That is so obvious! Meanwhile, Poetist has been posting about her belief that HC’s gay for years — that’s her bias. Poetist has no problems with gay men as shown by her devotion to Luke Evans.
You posted a comment on another board negatively commenting that JL's trailer seems to be following the Marvel trend of infusing more humour into the movie. Your very good in calling us out for our negativity, when you yourself spew your own level of negativity.
You're desperately grasping at straws. Because you and your like-minded friends love internet bullying and love to wallow in negativity, you try to defend that behavior by coming up with foolish excuses and by keep saying that others do it on other boards too.
I don’t need to grasp at straws. Look at your long posts. Look at the tone they were written. There is nothing positive about them. And for someone who doesn’t like negativity, what do you do? Post something negative about the JL trailer. That’s fine by the way. But it is mind-boggling why someone sick of the ‘negativity’ on this board would then proceed to post a negative opinion herself!
Wallow in negativity? How would you know that when you don’t even know all our activities in other boards or forums or what we do when we are not on discussion boards?
First off, I was talking about a film, not a person. Second off, what is negative about pointing out that JL is imitating Marvel? They are! Is an observation.
I see, so when you post a comment that some people may find negative, you are entitled to call it an ‘observation’. Ok. I guess our posts could be considered observations too then.
AND pursue the goal to turn every single discussion board into a fan site clone.
No, their goal is to turn every single discussion board into a hate site. That's why IMDb closed down the boards. Haters were the ones more active on them.
According to an official rep from IMDB (Col Needham, one of its founders/creators), the discussion boards were not considered its ‘core function’, the costs to manage and maintain the operating technology of the discussion board were higher compared to how much revenue the boards brought in for the company. So, yes, the company made the decision based on profits it was receiving from it. His full explanation could be seen here. Amazon would have kept the discussion board open if it brought in more money. If the trolls and haters bothered them that much, but wanted to keep the board open because it brought in money, they would have enforced tougher guidelines and more active moderators as they did with Goodreads, the discussion boards about books which is also owned by Amazon. Discussion boards open and close. After the closure of the IMDB discussion boards many other boards opened or a lot of members moved on to other existing one.
So far, I have not seen this board have extremely sexist and racist posters as I’ve seen in IMDB, so I don’t classify it as a hate site The moderators are stricter here and so far I have not seen Poetist’s posts deleted. Neither have I seen her banned. Perhaps the owners of this board don’t find her so evil as you think.
If it was indeed his parents who didn’t think drama school is important, then I suppose it could be because they prefer that he pursue a more ‘practical course’ in university, if in case his acting career goes bust.
You may be on to something. Cavill's parents always wanted him to get a degree first and then go to drama school.
But I do find it intriguing to know that his parents discouraged him to go to drama school. Why mention it now, but not in past interviews? In past interviews, HC has consistently expressed the view that he does not put much value in formal education in acting:
Cavill said it in the past too. The following article was written May 29th, 2013.
Cavill:His father discouraged his acting ambitions at first. It was landing a role in a filmed adaptation of The Count of Monte Cristo when he was 17 that whipped him into shape."He wanted me to get a proper degree first, [but when I got the part] my dad, was like, 'Okay, you have a professional job now, so great, go for it.'" Henry shared.
° http://www.newshub.co.nz/entertainment/superman-henry-cavill-used-to-be-supersized-2013053006
This one was written before Man Of Steel premiered.
Cavill:My dad initially said, “Erm, OK, I know you love your stage stuff, but how about you go to university and get a degree so you have something to fall back on?” I couldn’t fault that logic, and thought I’d get a Foresters scholarship to university, perhaps study Egyptology, and if I still wanted to go to drama school after that then, yeah, maybe.
° https://www.shortlist.com/entertainment/films/henry-cavill/85548
I stand corrected then. His parents really didn’t want him to go to drama school. Mind you, he could have gotten a degree in acting or the theatre. Other actors have done that. I don’t see how Egyptology is any more practical than drama school though.
Plus he has never shown any inclination going to acting classes or having an acting coach.
How do you know that? Cavill doesn't think that long formal acting education in the best schools guarantees you'll be an awesome actor. But he doesn't say anything about following acting classes (a short course) or having an acting coach.
Based on the articles written about him, interviews or his social media, it is my observation that he has not shown any inclination going to formal acting classes or having an acting coach. His views doesn’t show much faith in formal acting training. In any of his interviews, I have not seen him mention taking any form of acting classes or taking on acting coaches, but yet, he would be more than happy to show his training regimen or his trainers for any physical activity. Other actors casually mention the training they’ve taken (not necessarily from a university or specific school), mention having acting coaches or the article about them mention the training they’ve received or have taken.
I personally think that formal acting education shouldn't be long. Eithter you have it or you don't. A year training (or shorter) should be enough.
In any profession, even if you have a formal degree, it doesn’t hurt to take courses here and there just to be on top of new trends, techniques and sharpen your skills. HC’s history has shown long breaks in between movies sometimes, so if he was not getting ‘on the job training’, he could have taken some classes during those times. But nope haven’t seen any mention about that type of training, but there’s heaps of info sharing about his physical training whether it’s for a movie or for a charity function/event.
I don't know why you always need to be so aggressive in your response. It is a discussion board and people are allowed to disagree with one another.
You people can dish it out, but you can't take it. You're allowed to constantly criticize people and say mean things, but you can't take it when someone does the same to you.
Sure, a lot of discussion is going on between like-minded people. If you can use something to criticize Cavill, nobody will Google it to check if it's true. If someone misread something, nobody will say hey, but he didn't say that. On the contrary, that misinterpretation will be used to criticize Cavill.
I can have a normal discussion with all of you, but not when I'm criticizing you for what you're doing. And you all know what you're doing. So quit the victim act.
I don't know why you always need to be so aggressive in your response. It is a discussion board and people are allowed to disagree with one another.
You people can dish it out, but you can't take it. You're allowed to constantly criticize people and say mean things, but you can't take it when someone does the same to you.
Sure, a lot of discussion is going on between like-minded people. If you can use something to criticize Cavill, nobody will Google it to check if it's true. If someone misread something, nobody will say hey, but he didn't say that. On the contrary, that misinterpretation will be used to criticize Cavill.
I can have a normal discussion with all of you, but not when I'm criticizing you for what you're doing. And you all know what you're doing. So quit the victim act.
It is diverting to agree and it is diverting to differ. Last week I went too far on my definition of life-altering event and Phoebe duly corrected me. I laughed and I found myself silly. That's basically my attitude towards discussion boards in general, they're diverting.
Personally, it is the tone with which you address your opinions that I feel to be an issue. Sometimes you sound like Bethenny Frankel from New York's Housewives, talking over people whom you think are below you. We are all strangers here. Would you talk to a stranger in a Burger King the way you talk to us here when he disagrees with you that double cheese burger is good?
I can see that if you think we're all incorrigibly stupid then you really cannot pretend to be civil anymore in your post. If that's the case then just let me remind you that you can hardly find a fan forum where the posters are offering really intellectual insights.
I don't recall I'm personally attacking Henry's character or calling him names in any of my post. I think his relationship with Lucy is mere PR and he sometimes contradict himself in interviews. In spite of that I do have some good things to say about him. Most of all he raises his dog well. My friend met Kal once when he was in London- and I think it was Henry's assistant who was walking the dog- and the dog picked up his daughter's doll which fell out of her pram, and sweetly put it back into the pram.
But I don't think Kal likes to be photographed. His eyes are closed in most of the photos. I think it might be the flashlight.
I don't know why you always need to be so aggressive in your response. It is a discussion board and people are allowed to disagree with one another.
You're allowed to constantly criticize people and say mean things, but you can't take it when someone does the same to you.
Not to beat the dead horse with a second post but I urge you to go through my previous posts. What mean things have I said about Henry except that I think his rs with Lucy is fake and he contradicted himself in the interview?
I can have a normal discussion with all of you, but not when I'm criticizing you for what you're doing. And you all know what you're doing. So quit the victim act.
What else am I doing exactly except to point out once in a while what I feel to be awry about Henry? Are you implying that I may have a hidden agenda for joining the forum?
Reply by Nerdingout
on October 19, 2017 at 12:26 AM
He probably mentioned it because someone told him to not tell the "Fat Cavill" story again
What he says is not untrue, sometimes that is true about the "never trained" person being as good or better. But, in Henry's case, I think he could use extra training. I don't think he is a bad actor by any means, but eventually I think people will get bored with him, unless he branches out and does a role that is quite different than what he has given us thus far. The school and training those actors go through, teach them to become a character, no matter how silly. I watched an interview with Tobias Menzies
and he was talking about once in school they had to pretend to be an animal in its habitat, and he chose a "honey bear". Stuff like that, I think would help Henry, he doesn't always have to be the hero.
I'm looking forward to Nomis. I'm hoping for something different.
Reply by Poetist
on October 19, 2017 at 2:00 AM
Well, that interview was over 2 years old, and he was promoting MFU. Translation: it was a short break. Flash forward: The natural fact is Fat Cavill is back.
He needs to see that. Mentioning examples of others NOT needing training doesn't always make it true for yourself.
Reply by Nerdingout
on October 19, 2017 at 2:15 AM
I think he was low key talking about himself. IMO
Reply by Poetist
on October 19, 2017 at 4:27 AM
Oh, I know he was, but alluding to how he can get by w/o training just like others doesn't mean anything for him. I believe HC was able to get the roles he did due to his looks not by any real acting. Once they go, what does he have?
Reply by ToniTurnyne
on October 19, 2017 at 5:17 PM
LOL! But still, you would think he would have mentioned it before given apart from the ‘Fat Cavill’ narrative, there’s also his ‘origins story’ which begins with the intriguing story of meeting Russell Crowe, being discovered for a part in Monte Christo. From there, he could have mentioned why he didn’t bother going to drama school (ie due to his parents) given he had been asked before about any acting training he got.
This had been discussed before on the IMDB, and I remember Drayna mentioning other actors who never had formal acting lessons (ie going to a university, college or some specialised school like Julliard), but still made the effort of taking classes or hiring acting coaches here and there, even while they were working already. I do remember when I was reading about Brad Pitt’s early days as an actor, just starting out in Hollywood, he was told by one casting director after one unsuccesful audition that ‘that he had great looks for the screen, but that he needed to take acting lessons’.
One actor I could think of who didn’t have any formal training (and probably didn’t take any lessons either) is Christian Bale. But then CB has a reputation of being an ‘intense’ actor — the lengths he would go through to get a part and really prepare for a part (like in The Machinist) could be considered extreme. He also pursues different types of roles (not just heroes, like Batman), and wouldn’t mind starring in independent films early on in his career. So yes, there are actors out there who are really ‘good’ even without the training, but as an actor HC is not a Christian Bale. However, as a person, I think HC is better to work with than Bale. I couldn’t imagine HC having a tantrum on the set like CB.

Reply by ToniTurnyne
on October 19, 2017 at 5:25 PM
Well, he did get ‘discovered’ for the role in the Count of Monte Christo for his looks. Since then, most of his roles required his great ‘classic’ looks — whether it’s for his role in I Capture the Castle to his bigger roles in The Immortals, Man From Uncle and Superman. Only recently, his looks were not that important (ie Sandcastle, Nomis).
There is always dark chocolate or white chocolate and his cute doggy.
Reply by ToniTurnyne
on October 19, 2017 at 9:55 PM
I am hoping that maybe the reporter from the Inquirer where that interview quote came from, misquoted him or something. Otherwise, he sounds kind of sexist. The timing of it too was also suspicious close to the time when some actresses protested in Cannes because some women were not allowed to go into some screenings if they didn’t wear high-heeled shoes.
HC’s Man of From Uncle press conference happened around July 2015.
The incident in Cannes happened around May 2015!
Julia Roberts likes walking barefoot, and showed up barefoot in one screening.
Reply by Poetist
on October 20, 2017 at 1:45 AM
Wow, I remember that and that was in poor taste and bad timing. With that said, I was just pointing out the double negatives.
Reply by Triksy
on October 20, 2017 at 8:21 PM
It seems like you have a problem with the roles, not his acting per se. You want him to be the bad guy. I want that too. And he doesn't have to be the lead either. I liked him in Sandcastle.
But thus far the roles that Cavill had weren't really meaty. And the films were subpar too.
There is a difference between the I haven’t changed a bit comment and the I felt like my life was going to change for ever comment. The former is a claim and the latter is a description.
Cavill claims that he hasn’t changed a bit. He's not the first claiming that and he won't be the last. On this side of the planet, people are free to claim that. It doesn't matter what any outsider thinks.
But since you want to include outsiders, did it cross your mind that outsiders may have been the ones to tell Cavill that he hasn’t changed a bit? Perhaps that's why he's so sure that he hasn’t changed a bit. But it should be obvious that Cavill meant his personality, because his situation has obviously changed.
When Cavill said he felt like his life was going to change forever, he simply described how he felt when he was experiencing certain events. Those events made him feel like his life was going to change forever. We all feel a certain way when we're experiencing things in our lives.
Did the events change Cavill's life forever? Cavill doesn't confirm they did. And you shouldn't assume they did. And you certainly shouldn't use that assumption to say that he contradicts himself. You don't even know what he meant with change his life. Change his life how? Cavill is still young and hasn't really lived forever yet. Over a 100 hundred years, when he's lying on his deathbed, we should ask him if the events really changed his life forever.
Why do you people keep insisting that Cavill's rant is about people hating him? His rant is about people hating on his girlfriend/loved ones, not just him. Hate him, if you want, but leave his loved ones out of it. They're not the ones getting paid millions.
And Cavill at least rants about something that's actually affecting him and people he cares about. You people are here ranting and getting all bend out of shape over a stranger and over things that don't affect/concern you at all.
The mean comments on this board alone already surpasses that by a hundred-fold. And don't pretend you forgot the vile hate IG pages.
I heard about that, but I haven't read it yet. Also, I didn't know it was a satire. So post a link if you can.
But based on what you're saying, I don't see any kind of problem. A satire is meant to criticize in a humorous way. And I assume it was a one time thing.
If Cork was drunk, then she was drunk. If you don't want people to criticize you and or make fun of your drunkenness, then don't get drunk in public. Behave when you're out in public, because cameras are everywhere.
But there is a difference between the satirical post (one time, true and meant to be humorous) and an IG page made with the sole purpose of hating on someone every day. Lies are being spread to instigate others to hate on someone. It's almost character assassination.
What I make of that? Well, you're a hater disguised as an extremely fawning fan on Cavill's IG.
With that said, let me see what I can make of this "My Lucy" affair so you can stop cracking your brain trying to figure out something that neither affects nor concerns you.
What is known is that 3 events gave Cavill the feeling like his life was going to change forever. The events that cause that feeling were all big and a first -- his first acting job, his first MAJOR iconic role, his first pet (dog lovers consider getting a dog like having a kid).
About being a first. This one is easy. Cork is not Cavill's first girlfriend. Also, King, Gonzalo, Cuoco, Carano and Whitaker were not his first girlfriends.
About being big. This requires a more old fashion way of looking at things. Family as the building block of society and traditions like that.
For someone who grew up with both parents, getting a partner may not be such a big thing. You may grow up thinking that's how your life will be too. At some point you'll get a partner and have kids. That's what humans do. That may be what you're expected to do. But your parents can also give you an idea on how husband and wife interact with each other.
So when you get a partner, get engaged or even get married, you may not experience these events as life-altering because (un)consciously you were already preparing for them all your life. It may feel more like a natural progression. Unlike marriage, getting a partner or engaged doesn't require you to sign anything. So these steps may be even easier to take. All you do is make a promise and a promise can easily be broken.
Since I mentioned engagement, in Cavill's case, he got engaged to Whitaker after getting his first MAJOR iconic role. He lost the Superman role once, remember? Now image how it must have felt to get it this time around. It's hard for something common like an engagement to top that. I think Cavill was so overwhelmed with joy and the feeling that his life was really going to change forever that he was unable to feel anything else. The engagement probably got lost in all that.
Dude, if Cavill isn't the humble gay you want him to be, why are you here? You're the one who should shut up and stop twisting people's words. Where is that IF from? Cavill clearly said: As soon as I get into a relationship, a slew of hate, directed at me as well as the girl....
So his loved one is being hurt because of the slew of hate directed at her. IG pages are made to solely hate on the girl because she's dating Cavill. Don't you think he knows that? Cork isn't the first victim either.
Cavill also said: As long as it doesn’t hurt anyone in my life, it is a good thing. As soon as it starts to affect people in my life, that’s when I draw back.
If it hasn't hurt anyone yet, Cavill would have said, but if it starts to affect people in my life, that’s when I'd draw back.
Lastly Cavill said: ...but none of that will be worth it if the people I love and who I want to walk that journey with are getting hurt and suffering because of that gain.”
I hope the IF in that sentence is not the IF you were referring to. Cavill already said that his girl gets a slew of hate. He also said what he does when things starts to affect people in his life.
How cute. You think that haters are only on certain sites. This is a discussion board and yet you're here working overtime to turn it into a hate site.
But it's good to know you're pro bullies. Bullies are free to use the whole internet to bother other people and normal people should surf with caution or refrain from using the internet all together. I already told you that Donald Trump can really use a person like you.
You change your behavior to play a role, not your personality.
Everybody's situation changes with time and everybody adjusts their behavior according to the "role" they're playing (business person, mother, wife, traveler, student). But unlike situation and behavior, someone's personality may not change ever.
Watsonjudy835 thinks that when your life change, you'll change. That's not true. You can't assume that someone's personality automatically changes when their situation change or when they adjust their behavior to play a certain role.
Stop dodging the questions. Everybody knows people know each other on a small island or in a small town. But you're not from Jersey and yet you know what these people are doing. So you do have a way to spy on them. I always knew you're a stalker.
So pray tell us, how do you know that Cavill's parents spent all these holidays at home? How do you know they spent all these holidays at home and Cavill wasn't there? How many times did Cavill visit his parents in the last 5 years? Post links to evidence or quit trying to pass assumptions as fact.
Cavill was in Ibiza, London, Rome and Florida. He can easily visit his parents for a day each month without even the next door neighbor noticing him.
I don't remember reading that first story. Can you post a link?
I know that Cavill's parents discouraged him from attending drama school, but they always wanted him to get a degree to fall back on. So since they were never pro acting and Cavill already had an acting job, there was no reason to spend time and money on drama or any kind of school. Drama school is expensive and it may interfere with Cavill's working schedule.
Cavill's dad was probably upset because his son can't go to college and get a degree if he doesn't finish high school first. And being an actor is a big gamble. If Cavill doesn't keep getting work, he doesn't have any degree to fall back on. Any parent would be worried.
You must say something negative one way or another, right? When you want to hide something, you don't deliberately talk about it.
There's no doubt in what year Cavill left school, because the Rake article clearly states that he left in his penultimate year when he got the role in Monte Cristo. And his parents didn't think it was necessary to go back to school, let alone go to drama school. They clearly discouraged him from finishing school and continue studying! How does any of this hide that Cavill didn't complete school?
Yes, I did point out the ongoing world problems sometime ago in another thread and just recently in this thread. But I never said that you people are wasting time posting here. Re-read my posts.
I'm not sure why you're writing this to me. I'm well aware of this. I even wrote that celebrities promote products to earn more money and charities to give back. Why can't they address a problem?
And why assume that all celebrities do charity for their public image? When you become a celebrity you automatically lose all your humanity/empathy? Are you by any chance implying that Cavill is doing charity for his public image?
And Cavill is way more active on social media now than he was before. Perhaps he's finally getting the hang of it or he's simply more comfortable sharing now. And there are more (big) natural and man-made disasters happening everywhere now that he's more active on social media.
You really don't think before you write, do you?
Off the top of my head, there are only positive threads (new/old pics, new/old interviews, new gf, new JL trailer and so forth) on this board. There are no Cavill is a jerk or I can't stand Cavill threads on this board. So why would I bother create a positive thread on a board with only positive threads?
You obviously don't even realize that the comments in the thread can turn a positive thread into a negative thread and a negative thread into a positive thread. So why would I bother create a positive thread if I can't withhold haters from posting negative comments in it?
Are you insane or something? I wasn't quoting anybody when I called Poetist a gay man. I'm of the opinion that he's a gay man who used to post on the anti Lucy Cork IG page using the name Ploughsharetortoise. I told him that in my post.
By the way, Blanc... wasn't the only one who called Poetist a gay man. There were Roxy..., Terror..., Doctor... and a few more way way before those 4 I mentioned. They weren't regular posters.
And what is negative about calling someone a gay man? Are you implying that being a gay man is a negative thing? In that case, why do you let your friend Poetist keep calling Cavill a gay man? Who's the hypocrite?
You're desperately grasping at straws. Because you and your like-minded friends love internet bullying and love to wallow in negativity, you try to defend that behavior by coming up with foolish excuses and by keep saying that others do it on other boards too.
First off, I was talking about a film, not a person. Second off, what is negative about pointing out that JL is imitating Marvel? They are! Is an observation. Critics like Marvel because it's light and fun while they dislike the DCEU because it's too dark and grim.
The DCEU first copied The Dark Night style and failed. Now they're trying to copy Marvel, because of what the critics said. Things seem to be getting all muddled up, because they refuse to change the dark background. They think that cramming jokes into the scenes will make the film light.
No, their goal is to turn every single discussion board into a hate site. That's why IMDb closed down the boards. Haters were the ones more active on them.
You may be on to something. Cavill's parents always wanted him to get a degree first and then go to drama school.
Cavill said it in the past too. The following article was written May 29th, 2013.
Cavill: His father discouraged his acting ambitions at first. It was landing a role in a filmed adaptation of The Count of Monte Cristo when he was 17 that whipped him into shape."He wanted me to get a proper degree first, [but when I got the part] my dad, was like, 'Okay, you have a professional job now, so great, go for it.'" Henry shared.
° http://www.newshub.co.nz/entertainment/superman-henry-cavill-used-to-be-supersized-2013053006
This one was written before Man Of Steel premiered.
Cavill: My dad initially said, “Erm, OK, I know you love your stage stuff, but how about you go to university and get a degree so you have something to fall back on?” I couldn’t fault that logic, and thought I’d get a Foresters scholarship to university, perhaps study Egyptology, and if I still wanted to go to drama school after that then, yeah, maybe.
° https://www.shortlist.com/entertainment/films/henry-cavill/85548
How do you know that? Cavill doesn't think that long formal acting education in the best schools guarantees you'll be an awesome actor. But he doesn't say anything about following acting classes (a short course) or having an acting coach.
I personally think that formal acting education shouldn't be long. Eithter you have it or you don't. A year training (or shorter) should be enough.
You can't feel sympathy for Cavill when he complaints that internet bullies are hurting his loved ones because he wears expensive clothes and shoes, but people should care/sympathize/support a bunch of women in their super expensive clothes and shoes because they were refused entrance to some lavish thing for not having high heels.
Maybe Cavill thinks like you. There are bigger problems in the world. He doesn't have to watch what he says because of Cannes Shoe-Gate. Is not like these women were refused urgent medical care, nourishment or shelter, right? Cannes is pure luxury. Even if the whole shoe-gate wasn't a misunderstanding, you must follow the dress code, unless you're injured.
Besides, all those who had their million dollar high heels but thought it was unfair, do you see them or anybody on flats or barefoot now? No! I've never seen Julia Roberts barefoot on the red carpet. They all are still flaunting their super expensive high-heeled shoes on the red carpet.
Do these women tell the designers no, I'll go barefoot or wear flats or no, I'll buy a cheap one and donate the rest to charity? No, they take all the expensive gifts or buy solely super expensive stuff to flaunt them on the red carpet. I even heard them say on the red carpet that the shoes are pretty, but they can't wait to take them off. Some even showed the flats they carry in their purse. And because it's flat doesn't mean it's cheap.
So Cavill's comment is true. Many women hate high-heeled shoes, because it's not really that comfortable and it's not really good for your body either. But many women will complain about them and then turn around and buy them anyway. I'm one of those women.
But I doubt Cavill even thought about Cannes when he said that. They were talking about the shopping scene in UNCLE. And what he said about women and high-heeled shoes is kind of common knowledge.
Reply by watsonjudy835
on October 21, 2017 at 4:23 AM
@Triksy
I'm not a hater, nor am I a fawning fan, and I don't even have an IG. I'm hanging around merely to see if HC will finally talk about that time he went to a gay bar in Brazil (or Mexico?) in his interview.
I don't know why you always need to be so aggressive in your response. It is a discussion board and people are allowed to disagree with one another. I try not to be snappy in my comments because I know everyone is entitled to his opinion and I'm no judge to decide who's right or wrong.
Phoebe is an example of someone who doesn't turn the whole forum into a battle field when she disagrees with us. At the end of the day we all agree to disagree. If you're having a problem with that then maybe a fan site like HC News, where adverse comments are immediately deleted by the moderator, will be more to your liking.
Reply by ToniTurnyne
on October 21, 2017 at 5:43 AM
You may not have seen her. But a lot of people did, so much so that it’s well documented in the internet in dozens of sites, images and articles.
Julia Robert has been well known to have graced several awards barefoot. And if you consider a red carpet on the wedding aisle, she was barefoot when she married her first husband Lyle Lovett.
She also walked barefoot in Cannes.
julia-roberts-barefoot-from-cannes-to-pretty-woman/
And I still can’t sympathise with him. But feel free to do so, because that seems to be your main purpose in life. His halo is so bright for you.
I could relate more to those women, because I do question why can’t they wear more comfortable shoes if they wanted to? They were beautiful enough and many have accomplished a lot, but yet the awards still insists they wear heels.
Greatly doubt it. If he can still find something to complain about with his million plus earnings, I doubt he’s dwelling much on world events. He simply made a sweeping remark that all women likes high-heeled shoes, which when you think about it, if he was really thinking of current world events, then he’ll know some women may actually prefer equal pay and treatment, education, better future for their children, 3 meals a day, health care — you know those things you think about before cheap or expensive uncomfortable shoes.
Nope, he doesn’t. But it doesn’t stop some people from thinking he’s being a bit sexist and have a narrow view about women.
Nope. So yes, in the greater scheme of things they’re ok and doing well. Just like HC, in the greater scheme of things, he’s ok too and doing much better than a great segment of the world population. Great, you are learning!
Once upon a time, the dress code for women was to wear tight corsets and in one period wear poofy high wigs. Some dress codes can be broken...
Not really. And it is also why he’s comment may be viewed as sexist by some women. He speaks as if all women covets high-heeled shoes. Just because you’re one of those women who hates but buys them anyway, you don’t speak for all women either. I don’t like high-heeled shoes, and because of my bad back I can’t wear them either. Neither do I and many other women choose to buy them. And unlike Cannes, there are lots of places in the world that thankfully allow women in for wearing comfortable shoes.
Reply by ToniTurnyne
on October 21, 2017 at 12:53 PM
Because as Forbes magazine stated in several articles such as this article: ‘Like a good tax advisor, a charitable connection is now considered essential for a serious celebrity building a brand.’
Nope, assuming they have it to begin with. But as the article said, it never hurts for them to publicly show it to improve their public image. So with celebrities supporting causes and charities, I’d say some of them truly support them , while at the same time their handlers are telling them that it is good for their image to support them.
In my opinion, he is doing them because he truly believes in them, but also partly because it’s good for his image and it could help with the promotion of his film. The symbiotic relationship between charities and celebrities promotes several motivations as to why a celebrity will take on a charity, and why a charity will take on a celebrity.
Perhaps...
Actually, I do. I have to because English is not my first language.
Because you said this board is full of negative posts, so one would assume starting a positive thread is the way to go.
Check my post up there, I did say, ‘a discussion board can have both negative and positive threads’. So you can assume that within a thread, I KNOW it can have both positive and negative posts.
Poetist and I have started threads on this board, knowing full well that eventually people who do not agree with our posts would join in. We don’t own TMDB, so that’s a given.
Why would you like to withhold ‘haters’ from posting on your thread if you recognise this site is not a fan site? And if that is what you desire, why don’t you stick with a fan site?
Roxy was a regular. Doctor Love (ImnotthatkindofaDoctor) stopped posting on the board and moved to WDW and Henry’s Harem. I cannot imagine her calling Poetist a gay man on the board because she has always been courteous and nice to everyone on IMDB even to Blanc or Terror. You seem to know a lot of the former IMDB posters, you sure you weren’t influenced by some of them to call Poetist a gay man?
Oh please, in the context of your post, you are calling her out as a gay man because you wanted to be mean, and you are angry with her for her posts. That is so obvious! Meanwhile, Poetist has been posting about her belief that HC’s gay for years — that’s her bias. Poetist has no problems with gay men as shown by her devotion to Luke Evans.
I don’t need to grasp at straws. Look at your long posts. Look at the tone they were written. There is nothing positive about them. And for someone who doesn’t like negativity, what do you do? Post something negative about the JL trailer. That’s fine by the way. But it is mind-boggling why someone sick of the ‘negativity’ on this board would then proceed to post a negative opinion herself!
Wallow in negativity? How would you know that when you don’t even know all our activities in other boards or forums or what we do when we are not on discussion boards?
I see, so when you post a comment that some people may find negative, you are entitled to call it an ‘observation’. Ok. I guess our posts could be considered observations too then.
According to an official rep from IMDB (Col Needham, one of its founders/creators), the discussion boards were not considered its ‘core function’, the costs to manage and maintain the operating technology of the discussion board were higher compared to how much revenue the boards brought in for the company. So, yes, the company made the decision based on profits it was receiving from it. His full explanation could be seen here. Amazon would have kept the discussion board open if it brought in more money. If the trolls and haters bothered them that much, but wanted to keep the board open because it brought in money, they would have enforced tougher guidelines and more active moderators as they did with Goodreads, the discussion boards about books which is also owned by Amazon. Discussion boards open and close. After the closure of the IMDB discussion boards many other boards opened or a lot of members moved on to other existing one.
So far, I have not seen this board have extremely sexist and racist posters as I’ve seen in IMDB, so I don’t classify it as a hate site The moderators are stricter here and so far I have not seen Poetist’s posts deleted. Neither have I seen her banned. Perhaps the owners of this board don’t find her so evil as you think.
I stand corrected then. His parents really didn’t want him to go to drama school. Mind you, he could have gotten a degree in acting or the theatre. Other actors have done that. I don’t see how Egyptology is any more practical than drama school though.
Based on the articles written about him, interviews or his social media, it is my observation that he has not shown any inclination going to formal acting classes or having an acting coach. His views doesn’t show much faith in formal acting training. In any of his interviews, I have not seen him mention taking any form of acting classes or taking on acting coaches, but yet, he would be more than happy to show his training regimen or his trainers for any physical activity. Other actors casually mention the training they’ve taken (not necessarily from a university or specific school), mention having acting coaches or the article about them mention the training they’ve received or have taken.
In any profession, even if you have a formal degree, it doesn’t hurt to take courses here and there just to be on top of new trends, techniques and sharpen your skills. HC’s history has shown long breaks in between movies sometimes, so if he was not getting ‘on the job training’, he could have taken some classes during those times. But nope haven’t seen any mention about that type of training, but there’s heaps of info sharing about his physical training whether it’s for a movie or for a charity function/event.
Reply by Triksy
on October 21, 2017 at 11:50 PM
You people can dish it out, but you can't take it. You're allowed to constantly criticize people and say mean things, but you can't take it when someone does the same to you.
Sure, a lot of discussion is going on between like-minded people. If you can use something to criticize Cavill, nobody will Google it to check if it's true. If someone misread something, nobody will say hey, but he didn't say that. On the contrary, that misinterpretation will be used to criticize Cavill.
I can have a normal discussion with all of you, but not when I'm criticizing you for what you're doing. And you all know what you're doing. So quit the victim act.
Reply by watsonjudy835
on October 22, 2017 at 2:31 AM
It is diverting to agree and it is diverting to differ. Last week I went too far on my definition of life-altering event and Phoebe duly corrected me. I laughed and I found myself silly. That's basically my attitude towards discussion boards in general, they're diverting.
Personally, it is the tone with which you address your opinions that I feel to be an issue. Sometimes you sound like Bethenny Frankel from New York's Housewives, talking over people whom you think are below you. We are all strangers here. Would you talk to a stranger in a Burger King the way you talk to us here when he disagrees with you that double cheese burger is good?
I can see that if you think we're all incorrigibly stupid then you really cannot pretend to be civil anymore in your post. If that's the case then just let me remind you that you can hardly find a fan forum where the posters are offering really intellectual insights.
I don't recall I'm personally attacking Henry's character or calling him names in any of my post. I think his relationship with Lucy is mere PR and he sometimes contradict himself in interviews. In spite of that I do have some good things to say about him. Most of all he raises his dog well. My friend met Kal once when he was in London- and I think it was Henry's assistant who was walking the dog- and the dog picked up his daughter's doll which fell out of her pram, and sweetly put it back into the pram.
But I don't think Kal likes to be photographed. His eyes are closed in most of the photos. I think it might be the flashlight.
Reply by watsonjudy835
on October 22, 2017 at 2:39 AM
Not to beat the dead horse with a second post but I urge you to go through my previous posts. What mean things have I said about Henry except that I think his rs with Lucy is fake and he contradicted himself in the interview?
What else am I doing exactly except to point out once in a while what I feel to be awry about Henry? Are you implying that I may have a hidden agenda for joining the forum?