@Phoebe21 said:

Great interview so far. Here's a few more quotes on Just Jared. Read the comments, his crazy fangirls/boys are sure damn annoying. He writes about a "slew of hate" then in the comments, there's a slew of hate. lol. It's true, the hate train and jealousy does seem like people think they have ownership of him.

Well, the knives came out, but I think they are calling out HC. There are about two believing that HC is in a relationship with Lucy. The rest are calling out him on what he said and they throwing stones at Dany as well.

@Poetist said:

@watsonjudy835 said:

If he's that bothered about it why not shut down his IG? That's my issue with the celebs when they complain about getting hates on their SM. They have a choice. It's not like those fans/trolls are their neighbors and they have to deal with them on a daily basis. Unless his family and friends also hate his new gf, I don't see the reason for being bothered by what strangers have to say about your private life.

Preach!

He received loads of hate before opening an IG.

And also, he is contradicting himself in the interview. First he says he hasn't changed a bit and next he's talking about life-altering events. I thought this is simple logic: if your life's changed, you're changed!

HC is a walking contradictory. He's said plenty of things over the years that contradicts what he says.

That's not necessarily true, just bc he's experienced a life altering event like superman doesn't mean he's a different person on the inside.

@Phoebe21 said:

@Poetist said:

@watsonjudy835 said:

If he's that bothered about it why not shut down his IG? That's my issue with the celebs when they complain about getting hates on their SM. They have a choice. It's not like those fans/trolls are their neighbors and they have to deal with them on a daily basis. Unless his family and friends also hate his new gf, I don't see the reason for being bothered by what strangers have to say about your private life.

Preach!

He received loads of hate before opening an IG.

And also, he is contradicting himself in the interview. First he says he hasn't changed a bit and next he's talking about life-altering events. I thought this is simple logic: if your life's changed, you're changed!

HC is a walking contradictory. He's said plenty of things over the years that contradicts what he says.

That's not necessarily true, just bc he's experienced a life altering event like superman doesn't mean he's a different person on the inside.

Not that his grievance isn't in any way justified. But it is no longer fashionable even amongst the Hollywood actors to vent first world problems like getting hates on the internet, losing his anonymity because of fame blah blah blah when there are far bigger problems in the world. It is obvious for HC that the pros of fame outweighs the cons, so why not talk about that and just be grateful.

@Phoebe21 said:

HC is a walking contradictory. He's said plenty of things over the years that contradicts what he says.

That's not necessarily true, just bc he's experienced a life altering event like superman doesn't mean he's a different person on the inside.

Truly LIFE-ALTERING events change people.

If you get married, you change. It's not all about you and you make compromises. That's a change.

If you have a baby, it's the same thing.

If you have a major job, you have to move in different circles and monitor what you do and or say. You can't tell me if you're elected POTUS, you don't change. Even if you, simply change professions, you change, either for the better or worse.

Change happens.

@watsonjudy835 said:

Not that his grievance isn't in any way justified. But it is no longer fashionable even amongst the Hollywood actors to vent first world problems like getting hates on the internet, losing his anonymity because of fame blah blah blah when there are far bigger problems in the world. It is obvious for HC that the pros of fame outweighs the cons, so why not talk about that and just be grateful.

Exactly!

I can't stand someone getting money hand-over-fist and find reasons to complain over the petty stuff that comes with it.

Plus, he says he's worried about it hurting his family. OMG!

When has he visited his family in Jersey when it wasn't a publicity opportunity? When HC wants to unwind, he flies off to Florida and elsewhere, which is his choice, but he should stop with all of this family talk.

He hasn't been with his family during the major holidays in the last couple of years, and his parents are getting older. I'm sure that hurts them, but it doesn't seem to be a problem w/HC.

I mean if rants were that big of a problem, he would or should quit the profession.

Obviously, it's not that big of a deal, because he's still working as an actor.

@watsonjudy835 said:

If he's that bothered about it why not shut down his IG? That's my issue with the celebs when they complain about getting hates on their SM. They have a choice.

Why put words in his mouth? Where does Cavill say that he's bothered by hate on his IG? With or without IG, Cavill and those around him will hear about the hate. They're not living under a rock.

@watsonjudy835 said:

And also, he is contradicting himself in the interview. First he says he hasn't changed a bit and next he's talking about life-altering events.

You really need to work on your reading comprehension.

Cavill: “There are a few events in my life that I felt like, when I was experiencing them, my life was going to change for ever.”

Cavill didn't say that the events actually changed his life. He said that he felt like his life was going to change for ever, when he was experiencing them. It was just a feeling.

@watsonjudy835 said:

I thought this is simple logic: if your life's changed, you're changed!

Your situation may change, but your personality may remain the same.

@watsonjudy835 said:

But it is no longer fashionable even amongst the Hollywood actors to vent first world problems like getting hates on the internet, losing his anonymity because of fame blah blah blah when there are far bigger problems in the world.

Are you kidding me? Internet bulling is a trending topic. And Cavill wasn't talking about losing anonymity or people just hating him on the internet. He's talking about the (internet) hate towards his girlfriend and loved ones.

Nowadays, haters not only try to convert discussion boards into hate boards, they also make social media pages to solely hate on the partner of their favorite celebrity. This type of bullying is becoming a trend and it should be stopped.

Today these vile delusional lunatics do this to celebrity. Tomorrow they will start doing this to people who are not celebrity. And since the internet and social media are world wide and bad things are easily copied, this will be a huge world wide problem.

By the way, only celebrities should care about the bigger problems in the world? The world is full of problems and negativity, but you people are here deliberately creating and spreading negativity for fun. We should only care about the bigger problems, because we enjoy partaking too much in the smaller world problem called internet bulling, right?

Many problems start small. People ignore or condone things, as long as it doesn't affect them. This mentality has led to many awful things.

@Poetist said:

I can't stand someone getting money hand-over-fist and find reasons to complain over the petty stuff that comes with it.

So because someone gets paid hand-over-fist it's ok to bully this person's loved ones? What kind of person are you? They're not the ones getting paid hand-over-fist.

Celebrities promote products to earn more money and charities to give back. Why can't they address a problem? What Cavill is addressing is a form of bullying, which is a growing problem on the internet.

@Poetist said:

If you get married, you change. It's not all about you and you make compromises. That's a change. If you have a baby, it's the same thing. If you have a major job, you have to move in different circles and monitor what you do > and or say. You can't tell me if you're elected POTUS, you don't change. Even if you, simply change professions, you change, either for the better or worse.

All those things change your situation for sure, but they may not change your personality.

But this discussion is pointless, because Cavill just felt like certain events was going to change his life forever. It was just a feeling.

@Poetist said:

When HC wants to unwind, he flies off to Florida and elsewhere, which is his choice, but he should stop with all of this family talk.

He hasn't been with his family during the major holidays in the last couple of years, and his parents are getting older. I'm sure that hurts them, but it doesn't seem to be a problem w/HC.

How do you know Cavill doesn't drop by? How do you know he doesn't fly them over? How do you know his parents want to spend the holidays at home with kids? How do you know his parents don't want to experience the holidays in other countries? Do you expect Cavill to post pictures of his family visit on his IG? How do you know his parents would like that?

Cavill is taking selfies at his home in London, then he's walking with Cork in Rome, then he's trying to help friends in Florida. He could easily make a quick stop in Jersey to visit his parents without we knowing about it.

So unless you're spying on these people, you'll never be sure what they're doing, saying or want.

Here's screen shots from his interview in Rake magazine https://www.dropbox.com/sh/s1ayuhfujylpffx/AACuRaJaTOaKY56Ztvlb55_ha?dl=0

@Triksy said:

You really need to work on your reading comprehension.

Cavill: “There are a few events in my life that I felt like, when I was experiencing them, my life was going to change for ever.”

Cavill didn't say that the events actually changed his life. He said that he felt like his life was going to change for ever, when he was experiencing them. It was just a feeling.

I studied philosophy and I know that to say "I haven't changed" is very much a contradiction in terms because what you "feel" that you haven't changed may not be so for an outsider, who often notices the change before you do. Even my teacher in college cautioned us never to write something equivocal like I have/haven't changed because the avowal itself never makes sense.

But then I'm nitpicking. Maybe he feels like he hasn't changed. Whatever. I wonder if "being matured" counts as one of the major changes in life, both physically and mentally.

Re. bully:

It's not like the fans are rounding on him for dating some girl, or throwing stones at him whenever he's out in the open. Unless he's getting threats - in which case he should go to the police instead of ranting about it in an interview - it's just a mean comment here and there it's no big deal. It's not like he has been elected the nation's most hated celebrity annually like Gwyneth Paltrow!

I wonder why he never went after the press that intentionally painted him and/or his girlfriends in a bad light. DM ran a satirical post about Lucy not a party animal whilst posting pics of her bleary eyed and gulping drinks at a party. Why not call out the Daily Fail?

Oh and just now I saw some extremely fawning fans questioning HC why he didn't rate "My Lucy" as one of his life-altering events on his IG. What you make of that?

@culinary16 said:

Here's screen shots from his interview in Rake magazine https://www.dropbox.com/sh/s1ayuhfujylpffx/AACuRaJaTOaKY56Ztvlb55_ha?dl=0

You're the BEST!!!

@watsonjudy835 said:

@Triksy said:

You really need to work on your reading comprehension.

Cavill: “There are a few events in my life that I felt like, when I was experiencing them, my life was going to change for ever.”

Cavill didn't say that the events actually changed his life. He said that he felt like his life was going to change for ever, when he was experiencing them. It was just a feeling.

I studied philosophy and I know that to say "I haven't changed" is very much a contradiction in terms because what you "feel" that you haven't changed may not be so for an outsider, who often notices the change before you do. Even my teacher in college cautioned us never to write something equivocal like I have/haven't changed because the avowal itself never makes sense.

But then I'm nitpicking. Maybe he feels like he hasn't changed. Whatever. I wonder if "being matured" counts as one of the major changes in life, both physically and mentally.

Re. bully:

It's not like the fans are rounding on him for dating some girl, or throwing stones at him whenever he's out in the open. Unless he's getting threats - in which case he should go to the police instead of ranting about it in an interview - it's just a mean comment here and there it's no big deal. It's not like he has been elected the nation's most hated celebrity annually like Gwyneth Paltrow!

I wonder why he never went after the press that intentionally painted him and/or his girlfriends in a bad light. DM ran a satirical post about Lucy not a party animal whilst posting pics of her bleary eyed and gulping drinks at a party. Why not call out the Daily Fail?

Oh and just now I saw some extremely fawning fans questioning HC why he didn't rate "My Lucy" as one of his life-altering events on his IG. What you make of that?

Nitpicking indeed. And go to the police? He never said anyone was threatening, I think you're taking everything to the extreme. Since he was engaged to EW, he's been experiencing this hate and jealousy. I don't see it as a rich man complaining about the little things as some of you may. He's just commenting that that's the downside is all.

I noticed he didn't mention LC either as a life-altering event. I still believe they won't last so you know where I stand. Again, he's just dating. I don't see a couple in love, I see a man lonely and just needs someone temporarily.

@Triksy said:

@Poetist said:

I can't stand someone getting money hand-over-fist and find reasons to complain over the petty stuff that comes with it.

So because someone gets paid hand-over-fist it's ok to bully this person's loved ones? What kind of person are you? They're not the ones getting paid hand-over-fist.

No one is bullying his loved ones. He said IF they hurt his loved one. In the meantime, he needs to shut up and be humble.

Celebrities promote products to earn more money and charities to give back. Why can't they address a problem? What Cavill is addressing is a form of bullying, which is a growing problem on the internet.

HC is 35 years old and his family is even older than he is. No one is at a tender age -- not any of his beards anymore. If what is said on the internet bothers HC and Family, there is a freedom to not use it or go to a different site.

@Poetist said:

If you get married, you change. It's not all about you and you make compromises. That's a change. If you have a baby, it's the same thing. If you have a major job, you have to move in different circles and monitor what you do > and or say. You can't tell me if you're elected POTUS, you don't change. Even if you, simply change professions, you change, either for the better or worse.

Triksy: All those things change your situation for sure, but they may not change your personality.

They SHAPE your personality, therefore, they change it. A CEO of a company has to be poised around board members and stockholders. Day in and day out, that slowly transforms you. Even if you look back, everyone, for the most part, can say they've changed, just by the passing of time.

Triksy: Cavill is taking selfies at his home in London, then he's walking with Cork in Rome, then he's trying to help friends in Florida. He could easily make a quick stop in Jersey to visit his parents without we knowing about it.

I suppose you never lived on an island or a small town for any amount of time. Jersey is a small island. It's only 46 miles long! People know who comes and goes.

watsonjudy835 said: But it is no longer fashionable even amongst the Hollywood actors to vent first world problems like getting hates on the internet, losing his anonymity because of fame blah blah blah when there are far bigger problems in the world.

Tricksy said: Are you kidding me? Internet bulling is a trending topic. And Cavill wasn't talking about losing anonymity or people just hating him on the internet. He's talking about the (internet) hate towards his girlfriend and loved ones.

Internet bullying is a trending topic, but so is growing social inequality, lack of universal healthcare, malnutrition, the refugee crisis. I'll even add in growing student debt and massive unemployment that may result from AI taking over jobs, or the latest one -- how men in power get away sexually harassing and assaulting women.

HC has every right to express his 'grievances' against online haters and the other downsides of his 'celebrity-hood'. However, whether he (or you) like it or not, many people may not be be too sympathetic to his plight. Why? Well, it's kind of hard to feel sympathetic to a guy who earns millions and gets all sorts of perks for himself, his friends, family or gf when some people could barely make ends meet to feed their family, pay their rent, debts or get decent health care. Actually, since I originally came from a Third World country, I'm even looking at the expensive clothes and shoes he's wearing for that interview, and thinking to myself that there are people back home whose annual income is less than the cost of those clothes and shoes he's wearing for that photo shoot. If some of my friends who became missionaries saw his dog, they (and me) would probably be commenting, 'Gee his dog probably has better nutrition and health care compared to some of the kids in poverty we're trying to help out.' He complains about internet bullying, I have friends experiencing bullying and/or harassment while working long hours and for far less pay, but they endure it because they can't afford to lose their jobs. So, I'm sorry, but my (and others') sympathies are focused elsewhere.

By the way, only celebrities should care about the bigger problems in the world?

No, we all should. Didn't you point out a few weeks ago that with all the ongoing world problems, what are we doing wasting our time posting here?

But seriously, if you follow the world of celebrity, most celebrities don't only present their filmography in their publicity CV or Wikipedia. They also present a list of the charities and causes they support. It's good for their public image to show they are aware of current world problems and show the appearance of doing something about it. HC's personal chosen focus is protecting endangered species (Durell) and providing for (British) soldiers' families, isn't it? Lately, HC has been shown sending warm messages to victims of natural disasters around the world, more so now compared to previous years.

The world is full of problems and negativity, but you people are here deliberately creating and spreading negativity for fun.

A discussion board can have both negative and positive threads. Have you created a positive thread? So far, since you joined this board, you've called out Poetist a 'gay man', using the very same words used by a poster from IMDB whose been known to go from board to board posting racist, sexist and other hateful posts against HC, other celebrities and other posters. Why quote another poster with that kind of reputation? You posted a comment on another board negatively commenting that JL's trailer seems to be following the Marvel trend of infusing more humour into the movie. Your very good in calling us out for our negativity, when you yourself spew your own level of negativity.

We should only care about the bigger problems, because we enjoy partaking too much in the smaller world problem called internet bulling, right?

Not everyone has the interest, time and energy to create sycophantic fan sites and moderate (and cleanse) every single comment posted there about their fave celebrity, AND pursue the goal to turn every single discussion board into a fan site clone. Last I heard people behind some fansites aren't a happy bunch either, they seem to squabble amongst themselves and have a go at the admins/participants of other fansites.

Nitpicking indeed

Isn't it given that nitpicking is one of the main activities in these boards? In other boards, participants nitpick the content of TV episodes and movies. Unfortunately, for HC, there are not much new projects in his portfolio to nitpick, but his interviews are there... and the title of this thread is 'New/Old interviews'...

Triksy aka 18 % aka 100 % Liar said The world is full of problems and negativity, but you people are here deliberately creating and spreading negativity for fun.

Toni said : A discussion board can have both negative and positive threads. Have you created a positive thread? So far, since you joined this board, you've called out Poetist a 'gay man', using the very same words used by a poster from IMDB whose been known to go from board to board posting racist, sexist and other hateful posts against HC, other celebrities and other posters. Why quote another poster with that kind of reputation? You posted a comment on another board negatively commenting that JL's trailer seems to be following the Marvel trend of infusing more humour into the movie. Your very good in calling us out for our negativity, when you yourself spew your own level of negativity.

Toni, so, glad you spotted and pointed out this hypocrisy through the mass of vile s/he writes in a post.

Thanks for taking one for the team. My bleeding eyes thank you.