@Bionic Rules said:

Yes Shallow is a good song that most likely would of had the same success if “Adele, Beyonce or Christina” sung it for the film especially Beyonce since she had that role first then gave Gaga her seconds. I guess the lion King was a better deal.

Shallow could not have been done by anyone else since it was written by Gaga

Gaga was a flop before this film then this film saved her career. Beyonce or Rihanna can’t relate. Rihanna has the most anticipated album of 2019 right behind Adele.

I don't know what you've based that one on but okay. I do expect Rihanna to have a bigger first week than Gaga since she's more anticipated. Or overall. If she doesn't then your statement goes down the toilet.

@mrjacs said:

@LadyFlopgaCocaineQueen said:

B!tch you act like Taylor is even somehow envious of how the Jolene tour did in Europe when Taylor's last tour grossed over 3 times as much in Europe with than Jolene did with less shows while Gargoyle was giving away free tickets at the fvcking supermarket to her European shows to fill up the venues!

Taylor could only gross that much from the UK because no1curr about her in other European countries. Gaga can at least still gross outside of the UK

But I still can't at you comparing Joanne to Reputation. How about you compare the European gross from BTW:

Born This Way: $50 million in Europe

Reputation: $27 million in Europe

Oop. You're flopping like Katy with your logic

Are you sure he’s not flopping like perfect illusion’s with his logic ?

@Bionic Rules said:

Are you sure he’s not flopping like perfect illusion’s with his logic ?

I think it goes lower than that. He's flopping like Your Body and G.U.Y.

@mrjacs said:

@Bionic Rules said:

Yes Shallow is a good song that most likely would of had the same success if “Adele, Beyonce or Christina” sung it for the film especially Beyonce since she had that role first then gave Gaga her seconds. I guess the lion King was a better deal.

Shallow could not have been done by anyone else since it was written by Gaga

Gaga was a flop before this film then this film saved her career. Beyonce or Rihanna can’t relate. Rihanna has the most anticipated album of 2019 right behind Adele.

I don't know what you've based that one on but okay. I do expect Rihanna to have a bigger first week than Gaga since she's more anticipated. Or overall. If she doesn't then your statement goes down the toilet.

Let’s see how Gaga does her next “solo”era. You better hope she delivers a “good first single” because i can see her underperforming.

@mrjacs said:

@Bionic Rules said:

Are you sure he’s not flopping like perfect illusion’s with his logic ?

I think it goes lower than that. He's flopping like Your Body and G.U.Y.

I have never heard GUY who is that by?

@Bionic Rules said:

Let’s see how Gaga does her next “solo”era. You better hope she delivers a “good first single” because i can see her underperforming.

I can't unless the lead single is trash again. Then again Beyoncé, Rihanna and anyone else will flop as well with a trash lead.

@mrjacs said:

@Bionic Rules said:

Let’s see how Gaga does her next “solo”era. You better hope she delivers a “good first single” because i can see her underperforming.

I can't unless the lead single is trash again. Then again Beyoncé, Rihanna and anyone else will flop as well with a trash lead.

I honesty don’t think so. Both Rihana & Beyonce have released trash as first singles yet still did well. I honesty don’t think Gaga can get away with that. It’s the same with Christina “Say Something slays” “Not myself tonight bombs” ppl just expect more from certain artist.

@Bionic Rules said:

I honesty don’t think so. Both Rihana & Beyonce have released trash as first singles yet still did well. I honesty don’t think Gaga can get away with that. It’s the same with Christina “Say Something slays” “Not myself tonight bombs” ppl just expect more from certain artist.

Oh please. Rihanna has had good lead singles and when she didn't, she scrapped them and made a new one. Beyoncé has pretty much had good ones as well. None of them had a song like PI.

And don't remind me of Not Myself Tonight. That's one of the worst leads ever

@mrjacs said:

@Bionic Rules said:

I honesty don’t think so. Both Rihana & Beyonce have released trash as first singles yet still did well. I honesty don’t think Gaga can get away with that. It’s the same with Christina “Say Something slays” “Not myself tonight bombs” ppl just expect more from certain artist.

Oh please. Rihanna has had good lead singles and when she didn't, she scrapped them and made a new one. Beyoncé has pretty much had good ones as well. None of them had a song like PI.

PL is just trash. It’s not a good song nor the album even Gaga Stan’s trash that era now suddenly it’s a decent album :🙄. Rihanna has only scrapped one lead single in one time period. Normally she sticks with her leads where she’s released a few bad first singles yet still slayed. Gaga can’t do this anymore it has to be good!

@LadyFlopgaCocaineQueen said:

Gargoyle had to play 33 shows in Europe to gross that 50 million from the Reductive This Way Ball. (1.5 million per show average)

Taylor grossed 27 million in Europe from 6 shows. (4.5 million per show average)

Congrats on the It Feels...Reductive Tour grossing only 1/3 as much per show as Taylor's Reputation Tour in Europe!

Stay seething that "Queen of Hollywood" is rotting in Vegas having to resurrect her pretentious this is somehow art just because it's weird schtick for grosses FAR LOWER than Taylor flop Swift gets on tour though.

OMG, Taylor would never be able to gross $50 million. There's no demand for her in Europe. The only place where there's any interest is the UK. Continue to seethe that Taylor will never be able to be a worldwide superstar like Gaga though. It suits you.

@LadyFlopgaCocaineQueen said:

Like Til It Happens To You was written by Gargoyle too?

Gaga has multiple songs written only by her. She has proven she can write music. This one case changes nothing. Funny how you seem to think an artist that actually has songs released where she has the sole writing credit can't co-write a song like Shallow when even the writers say she composed the track but think acts that only co-write are able to write solo?

Stay pressed Gaga has more talent in her pinky finger than you have in your entire body.

Gaga has multiple songs written only by her. She has proven she can write music

I only know 1. what other songs are written solely by her?

@LadyFlopgaCocaineQueen said:

I forgot that Gargoyle is such a gigantic worldwide superstar because she FINALLY managed to have a WW hit due to a movie even though her previous 9 singles over a 5 year period were all worldwide flops.

What does it matter how those 5 years were when it was a career low and she's now at a career high again? LOL. This will always matter to you, even if she has 3727492374932 hit eras you'll always be reminding people that "Gaga was a flop from 2014-18"? but no one will literally care

Also, FIVE years? Last I checked she had a hit in the form of Applause in 2013. She had no hits from 2014 up until Shallow in 2018 - FOUR years. She also only released SIX official singles from albums, two of which weren't sent to radio at all. Not nine. You counting her jazz singles makes you look like a moron.

And you're still comparing Reputation to Joanne instead of Born This Way. I'll wait for Taylor to sell as many tickets in France, Germany, Scandinavia, Italy or Spain like Gaga has though

@Gfe said:

Gaga has multiple songs written only by her. She has proven she can write music

I only know 1. what other songs are written solely by her?

Speechless and You and I are songs released that are solely written by her. G.U.Y. is another song where she "co-wrote" the song with Zedd who we all know is infamous for putting his name on a track without writing a single word. There are some cuts from deluxe editions and from her time before making it big where she's got the sole writing credit. She's fully capable of writing a good song and even Mark Ronson said she wrote Shallow all on her own and the other producers also said the same

The best part is you can actually find a video of her presenting the song to all the producers and Bradley on YouTube She wrote it. Questioning her writing abilities is just stupid.

Speechless and You and I are songs released that are solely written by her.

Okay two songs. That's good. I guess that makes multiple.

G.U.Y. is another song where she "co-wrote" the song with Zedd who we all know is infamous for putting his name on a track without writing a single word.

He may have contributed to the writing in some other ways as songwriting is both composing music and writing words.

She's fully capable of writing a good song and even Mark Ronson said she wrote Shallow all on her own and the other producers also said the same

Why did they all win an oscar for writing the song then?