I am just about to start Ep 71 - I knew that Esra would be killed - it's standard fodder for shows like this - they NEVER let a policeman have a happy marriage that lasts. Quite honestly I am sick and tired of the multi Beserk conversations and even a fake Beserk pursuing the guy who supposedly shot Esra (Gokhan?) in a car. Then we have him running at night up a hill and lying down and staring at the sky which is followed by him rushing about and chasing people - throwing them out of windows and blowing a "jeep" full of baddies up. Then it's cockroach time again. It's getting to the point where I am lost in this show - I don't know what is real and what isn't. I liked Excrement's comment "You can't take your eyes off it" ! when Beserk burst into the bedroom. Yes - I notice of late that they are blurring the beer bottles which they never did before - they usually blur out private body parts and wound entries and exits and some shop signs and buildings. Strange they don't censor the four letter words though. I was surprised that Arsenic and old Lace survived - but she did say that the young ones can't kill us - guess she was right!! She is obviously in hiding now and Excrement doesn't know - he will be in her bad books for killing her daughter in law for sure. I don't think that Vulture is leaving the series - maybe he will have a break - but not a permanent one. I STILL haven't seen the socks and flat incidents between Eda and Moron - his mother - Cevdet and Asli. Selim seems to have been used to get the DvD showing somebody breaking into Esra's office and he has been beaten badly by Memduh's men. I wondered whether that DvD was deliberately made available to Beserk so as Esra would be released from prison in order to be shot. I think the episodes here are being edited - maybe for time constraints - but I am definitely not seeing some of the scenes that you are.

update - for instance - the fight in the nightclub where Excrement saves Beserks life and tells him they must work together from now on. Nope. Didn't happen in any episode I saw.

@strangebedfellows said:

update - for instance - the fight in the nightclub where Excrement saves Beserks life and tells him they must work together from now on. Nope. Didn't happen in any episode I saw.

Well, I didn't tell it right I guess. Excrement had left the club before they took Behzat to some room and began punching him and were going to kill him. Then Excrement showed up and slapped Behzat twice, calls him disrespectful, and takes him off their hands. It is when they are in his car driving off that he tells him he didn't kill Esra, that he is also trying to find out who did. He tells him at that time that they have a common enemy and should work together to find him.

Nope!

@strangebedfellows said:

Nope!

OK, I will start making better summaries again. I dont' do well from memory, and old events lose their significance for me over time and the new things take their place as important in my thinking. I will just go ahead and post stuff and not worry about spoilers. I usually post which episodes I am writing about, so if you want to wait til you watch first, you can.

I am most of the way through 73 now. Maybe I should start trying to summarize the episodes better again, like I was doing before, if it helps the continuity thing better for you. It sucks if they are editing the British version. But I think the bits about Eda and Moron at her apartment, which she gets kicked out of because of him, is in the next episode or maybe just after that. I dont remember well now. That is the trouble if I don't make notes on the episode as I go through it. I can't recall when it happens. The following is something I was already writing when I read your recent post.

Vulture gives his statement over again today. This time he says the same as Ghost had said. So he is still on the force.

Esra's ex husband was shot after calling Behzat to meet him, saying that he had information on Esra's murder. On the way his car was forced to stop and he hit a gunman with a golf club, and then ran away. But he was shot by the gunman as he ran into a wooded area.

The next day the team is on the way to a body found in those woods. Selims replacement on CSI is a stickler for proper crime scene investigation procedure. He is in the right, of course. But the homicide team, especially Vulture and Moron, don't like the guy. When CSI turns the body over, it doesn't like like Esra's ex husband, Firat, but some other man, possibly the man who shot him.

Bahri found where Soyer is hiding and tells Excrement who called and told Behzat. He tells Behzat that Soyer confessed to him and will confess to Behzat, and adds that he doesn't care if he kills him, but says don't empty the gun into him because killing him like that would carry a life sentence and even Excrement wouldn't be able to save him from that. Behzat speeds off to the warehouse where Soyer supposedly is. Shithead calls the bureau and Eda answers. Moron hears who it is and grabs the phone. Shithead says "is that you big ass?". Moron tells him how much weight he has lost and Excrement laughs and then tells him to shut up and listen. He tells him he sent Behzat after the guy who ordered Esra's killing and give Moron the address so they can go there and possible prevent Behzat killing the man. Behzat gets there but it isnt Soyer, it's the guy who told Excrement about Soyer. (Behzat has had dealings with Soyer in the past. First he saved his life when someone was going to shoot him. Later he showed him a tape of Excrement with his wife, and Soyer threatened him, told him to mind his own business, etc.) The guy says he will give Soyer's location to Behzat and testify in court, begging for his life. He leaves to go after Soyer. Excrement is already there with Soyer, whose wife says she will tell everything, that she advised him not to go behind his back but her husband didn't listen and she is not going down with him. She and Excrement are former lovers anyway. She says she knows everyone behind the assassination of Esra. Soyer slaps his wife. Excrement takes Soyer's gun and hands it to the wife so she can prove she is on his side. He who just slapped her says "Aynur, you're my wife." She says "is that why you slept with your assistant?" I have to say, she doesn't have room to talk after fooling around with Excrement. but who knows? He may have been the first one to start cheating, and probably was. She shoots him in the temple, lights out, show over for Soyer. They use another gun and make it look like suicide. Behzat gets there after they set up the suicide scene. Excrement is playing the piano. He tells Behzat they killed Esra to undermine his business, that it had nothing to do with Behzat. I think they also did it to get Behzat to go after Excrement, since he would think he was to blame. I am halfway through 73 as I watch this. Behzat wants to shoot Excrement but Bahri disarms him.

The four homicide boys are together, on the way to meet Behzat. Moron can't stop ridiculing Vulture, criticizing his shooting skills, and so on. Vulture has had enough and bails out from the moving car. They hail a taxi to send Vulture to the hospital. Ghost tell Moron it's his fault for pushing him too much. Moron says but "it's nothing new." Meaning, I always criticize his shooting. some defense. Moron doesn't get that his constant put downs, his whole personality, are a constant insult and drain on people.

Behzat lies to Tahsin and says there was no one else there at Soyers when he got there. He doesn't mention Excrement or his guys. Behzat talks privately to the new CSI guy who goes back inside. We learn who the murder victim from the morning was, (the man found in the woods that I thought was going to be the ex husband). It is someone namedSancar Kayaca. He works for FDS Holding. Hearing this Moron says: "Soner was Adem's boss. Adem was the guy whom Vulture shot. He is also this murdered guy's boss. This pimp worked with everyone." (Soner was a lawyer for the former undersecretary, Riza Soyer)

The CSI guy then says there is a blood sample that doesn't belong to the victim, and it is also on the golf club they found. So some of Firat's blood got transferred to the golf club after he was shot. But we still don't know why his body isn't there. Or how the gunman died there.

Behzat went to Firat's place and finds his sister there. She says Firat was wounded the night before and is hiding at her place. That explains why his body wasn't found there. He was shot but it was superficial and he is alright. It turns out the gunman followed him into the woods Firat hid behind some trees and hit him again with the golf club, then struggled with the man and turned the gun on him as they fought. So the former undersecretary, Riza Soyer, sent a gunman to kill Firat to keep him from telling whatever he knew about the assassination which Soyer ordered. (I am assuming Firat's phone was bugged).

Firat says Esra came to see him a week before she was killed to get information on a guy named (another fucked up Turkish name we need to fix somehow) ihsan Gozuacik. What is that? Goo-zoo-ah-chick. Hopefully they won't mention him much more in the story. He is a businessman Esra sent to jail three years ago for corruption. Esra had turned down a bribe offered to her not to file that case. Firat had defended a man this guy had sued in the past. So Firat had lots of documents about the guy with the name. Esra wanted them because the guy was involved in the tender process she was investigating. Firat made some calls to see if this guy was in Anakara when Esra was killed, and one of the guys he called was Riza Soyer, who was a former business partner of Gozuacik. After that he started getting anonymous phone calls saying be careful and stay away from the Esra case.
So this is confirmation from another source that implicates Soyer in the Esra killing.

Vulture is back from the hospital. Behzat arrives back at homicide also. Eda found out that Riza Soyer's wife and Gozuacik are both shareholders in the same company and says "by the way, Oktay came to talk to you about this but left when he couldn't find you." adding she doesn't know what he wanted to tell him. The CSI guy shows up with some video he was able to get from some secret camera on the scene which shows Excrement, Soyer, Soyer's wife, and the goons at the crime scene. So they see that it wasn't suicide, that Anyur shot him. The camera, left at the scene, was from Bahri's tie pin.

Switch to Anyur and Excrement meeting with a bearded man (Gozuacik) and Excrement tells him he knows he planned the assassination, and he lists the others: Gokan, Riza, Adem, Soner. This guy denies it and says you have no proof. Excrement says he forgot one important factor, him. The man says "You fucking faggot." He read that book, How To Win Friends and Influence People. "Yes, I planned it. That's not the only thing I planned. I also planned my future. I asked Soner to arrange someone. I didn't do these all alone. If you knew who are supporting me you'd run away from here. Don't pull the brick or you'll be under the wreck, yourself. Excrement, the thing you couldn't understand is...You tried to say it's still your era by killing Bro. But that's all. Esra, the Prosecutor, put me into the jail. I stayed in jail for two years. You have time to think once you are in the jail."

Excrement says: "I came to make a deal."

Gozuacik "I'm not making any deal with you. Fuck off." then he looks at Anyur and says "If you do something behind my back again, our deal will be over."

Excrement: "We can still make an agreement."

Gozu... "There won't be an agreement, Excrement! Leave here or it'll be even worse."

Excrement says "Fine. It's your call." He gets up and walks away. Once outside he takes his phone out and listens to the recording he made. He hands it to the head of organized crime, Oktay. Oktay goes inside and arrests Gozuacik and Anyur, who for some reason stayed there.

Behzat calls Oktay and tells him about the video of Excrement giving the gun to Anyur who then shoots Soyer in the temple. Oktay has not choice but to issue an order to arrest both of them. Almost instantly Excrement is informed that Oktay just issued the arrest warrant on him. And the cops are hot on his tail. Excrement opens the sun roof and disables the lead vehicle with automatic rifle fire, and gets away. He calls Behzat and asks if he sicked Oktay on him, and Behzat says yes. Excrement changes cars, gets his new passport, and his Phillip Jennings special disguise. Vulture meets Behzat for a heart to heart chat. (They are in that abandoned building they call the Cage, that place they get to gether and drink sometimes.) He says he never saw the guy raise his gun, but that he was in a state after sending Nazli away. Behzat tells him Ghost saw him raise the gun at him. Vulture says it was just a coincidence then. Behzat says " just a reflex. Reflex. Your muscles moved all of a sudden. What does this mean? What it means is...You did it consciously."

Vulture doesn't feel confident though. Last year when Ghost was held hostage he shot and missed the man. He says he wasn't mentally there he just pulled the trigger. He wanted the anger inside to go away.

Behzat says but if you hadn't shot Adem, he would have shot Ghost. And we would be crying for Ghost now. He was a murderer. A Murderer. He kills mercilessly. Would he pity Ghost? See we are lucky. Ghost wasn't shot.

Vulture says he won't use guns anymore. Behzat doesn't want to hear it. He orders Vulture to take some time off and then come back. He tells him to leave him alone, he wants to drink alone. Behzat drinks and cries alone thinking of Esra dead.

Excrement has a good disguise, looks like some hippy with long hair and a headband as he goes to the airport.

Sule calls him home for dinner. Vulture sees a man coming for Behzat and shoots him dead after he shoots Behzat. It's not good, a center of mass chest shot. There are lots of important body parts in there, the heart, lungs, major arteries and blood vessels. Getting shot there is often fatal.

But I am going out on a limb here and saying he will not die.

I haven't read your last post yet because I am just starting ep 72. Only now have I seen the socks and bathrobe incident and Eda has now lost her flat because of Moron. It's time she packed him in. Beserk is going to a nightclub with some woman who is on an undercover assignment. I shall catch up with you in a couple of hours after I have gotten closer to where you are at.

Ok - I have just finished Ep 73 and Beserk has been shot. I doubt very much if he will die - we used to have a Scottish police series over here called "Taggart" which was the name of the lead detective - it was similar to this series inasmuch somebody was always coming into his office and saying "Sir - there's been a MERRDER" (Scottish accent!) when the lead actor died the show was still called Taggart for some unfathomable reason - I doubt this will happen here. By the way that guy who plays the new CSI is a refugee from GONUL! (Yusuf) I thought I recognised him. Well - I must say Beserk has seriously teed off Excrement - I think he might just decide to put that snappy dog to sleep now - if indeed this attempt wasn't made on his behalf. I think the writers are being quite implausible with regard to Eda - I don't know why she thinks it's fine for her boyfriend to sleep over in her flat - his attitude is unbearable - walking about naked except for a terry robe is surely not appropriate in that culture - I don't understand how Eda - who wont let anybody swear in the office - can think her lifestyle is acceptable to her parents or to the community at large. For us in the West it is the norm - but not in Turkey - surely. What if Moron's parents found out about that? What would they think of her? She would be viewed as a harlot - not fit enough to marry their beloved son. I wish somebody would shoot Moron's mother - she is so over the top in her adoration of him - I know exactly how Asli feels - I was in the same position for years. They still haven't enlarged on the Azeyes stopping Vulture and Nasli from leaving - they just left that scene up in the air - three months have now gone by - I am beginning Ep 74 and I am wondering what plot lines are to come. Ceyda seems to have been forgotten too - but I don't think she is about to let Sule get away with murdering her daughter. I suppose there will be some further revelations about the finger cutter murderer - because these writers seem to forget what they have told us already - I think Vulture killed the rapist/uncle/husband/pimp - but nobody else. We shall see. See you on the other side of Ep 74 !!

74

There seem to be a whole lot of partially constructed buildings in Ankara. Do they run out of money? Or do the criminals build them partway and leave them unfinished on purpose so they will have some convenient place to murder or leave bodies? Anyway, some girl was dumped at a construction site.

Cevo forgot to buy eggs. He goes across the street to borrow eggs from Moron. Moron tells him to go to the store. Eda invites him for breakfast. Moron glares at Cevo. She wants him to eat with them, but he insists on borrowing. Eda seems to have gotten used to the idea that she is dating a first class asshole. She won't let it bother her. Moron needs to screw up badly.

I didn't see any notice about "X number of months later" but we seem to have been dropped X number of months later in the story.

Sevket visits a school where Behzat is coaching a soccer team and gets a red card for swearing when his player is given a hard foul. Sevket wants to talk but Behzat makes him wait til the game is finished.

Meanwhile, news of the girl's body at the construction site causes hordes of men to flood out of coffee shops and run down the street carrying various sticks and weapons, all shouting and pointing toward where they are running. They reach the construction site and begin beating the security guard and anyone else they can find there.

Behzat's team scores. They talk. Sevket has found a job he says. This is the last day of Behzat's leave. Something is wrong with his right arm. Sometimes he cannot lift it he says. The doctor says it is psychological. He says he must work. Zeynep the undercover cop lady sees him as he leaves the hospital visit and gives him a ride. There was some tough guy on a bench watching Behzat and her leave together. She is with the Intel. unit, though she had worked for narcotics before. Now she is singing in one of the clubs. Someone is following her though, but Behzat doesn't see it.

The team is at the crime scene. Vulture says the victim's 13 year old brother was also kidnapped. Later at a tea shop they question people. They claim the constrution workers have destroyed peace in the neighnorhood.

Moron calls the captain and the guys want to get together. Zepnep is the singer there now. Behzat sits at the club, listening to her sing. I wonder if they will be an item in the future. That tough looking guy from outside the hospital is at the club, watching Zeynep. She is using the name Suzan at the club though. He is from the corps. They think she is an addict. She says she passed the test, but they don't trust the result. They leave the club and take a walk. That guy follows. Behzat has enough of him and confronts him. But Zeynep didn't tell him the truth apparently. The guys asks if he is going to fuck her, then if he is her pimp. Behzat beats him up. The guy runs away saying he will pay for that.

Moron wants to lie by Eda on the couch. He shifts and knocks her to the floor, then acts surprised, like 'what happened?'

The berieved family with the kidnapped boy gets a ransom call for 50,000 lira. I suspect a local who is blaming the construction workers.

Eda tries to serve the asshole some tea, but he is moping. Suddenly he explodes and asks "why are we sleeping separately? We've been doing it since we began dating. Why? Don't you love me?"

"Harun"

"Harun? Don't say Harun!Tell me if you don't. What kind of a relationship is this? Ok, I get it. We have some small attempts but..."

"Small attempts?"

"Kissing, cuddling, hickeys and stuff." he says.

Eda: "Dont be disrespectful. Do you see our relationship like this?" she gets up and walks away.

He really is an asshole. The Moron method of foreplay is to pout, and then explode in anger saying he wants to get laid.

Behzat returns to work. He sprayed something along the bottom of the double doors, but I didn't understand what he was doing. The kidnappers used ether on the brother and sister, but she had asthma and it triggered an attack and she suffocated. Behzat wants the new CSI guy to come with him. Moron is upset.

They solved the case easily. A local, a man with gambling debts ransomed his nephew back to his brother, and accidentally killed his niece.

At the club Behzat doesn't see Suzan (Zeynep) and is told they can't reach her.

Moron gets drunk at the restaurant. He finally gets home, very drunk. Eda waits for him on the couch. He apologizes but then says yield for God's sake. Yield for once. He waited two years to hold her hand and two months to kiss her. "I didn't want a lot." he whines. How can she think he is cute? "I was a douchebag. Because I love you like a douchebag." he tells her. Is that supposed to be romantic? I love you like a douchebag? What the hell is he even saying? Then, the unthinkable happens. Eda leads him to her bed. Please, let him be impotent. LOL. He got too excited.

Behzat goes to Zeynep's place and she answers, not looking good. She asks for help, asking him to find her some drugs.

I actually turned the sound on to listen to their voices - and I wish I hadn't - they all sound so peculiar - their voices aren't masculine to me. Worse still I turned it up when Zeynep was "singing" - Jeez - is that what passes for music in Turkey? It is awful. What is the matter with Sevket? He doesn't want to work in a hospital where a mother he never saw for most of his life supposedly died. My mother was a Geordie ( born in the borders between England and Scotland in Durham) and they have their own dialect - I use it a lot without realising - I always call my grown up daughter the "bairn" for instance!! However there is a word that we use for people like Sevket - it is "MammyHokey" I don't think there is a true equivalent in English let alone American! It means an adult who is still attached to their mother's apron strings - very needy and over dependent. That's as close as I can translate it. He gets on my nerves with it. The way he was acting at the mall I thought he owned it - but he was just a general manager. I thought the storyline was pretty boring - you get tired of seeing mindless violence. And Emer (Yusuf) seems to have become a part of the homicide team now - I thought the CSI and homicide departments were separate entities. Just looking at Moron and Eda together makes me nauseous - I don't know how she can do this to you T.C. you simply cannot love a woman who is this stupid surely? That whole scene made me throw up. The thing is that Moron being as terminally stupid and selfish as he is will sleep with her and then blame her for being a whore. It would not be his fault because she tempted him and then let him and decent women don't seduce men like him like that. I wonder if she will wake up and cast her eye on Emer. It would be just too bad if Beserk got somebody who didn't have issues wouldn't it? I suppose they are trying to do a Pop Eye Doyle French Connection type scenario where she got addicted because she was pretending to be. YAWN. Oh well - it's 11.30pm. I have watched this stuff most of the day!! So I will wish you goodnight.

75

Vulture feels threatened by the new crime scene guy.

Ghost called Behzat but he told them to handle the case. Zeynep tells him to go ahead, she will be fine on her own. She takes her drugs to calm herself. Behzat leaves without bathing, once again. Maybe he just takes an annual bath, to save water or something.

After work the CSI guy tells Behzat he wants to work in homicide cause he likes being in the field. He says talk to Tahsin. This will cause friction with Vulture, for sure. Moron hates the idea as well, comparing Emre to Selim.

Moron says he is taking some Raki to his father and rushes off. Eda was surprised and not happy to hear this. Moron is now obviously embarassed and afraid to try to go to bed with Eda again, fearing another failure in the sack. I hope this continues for a long time. Moron stops by home and wants to drink with his dad. His dad knows something is wrong. His awful mom tells him Asli is over seeing Cevdet. She has no problem with Moron living with his girlfriend but doesn't want Asli to see her fiance. I don't think his mother cares what Moron does with Eda and will accept any girl Moron wants to marry. At work the next day Moron tells Eda he has to visit his dad again the next night. He is avoiding her to avoid another failure to perform in bed.

I thought Zeynep was lying to Behzat about being on an operation but when he went to her place that night and found that guy there, they started to get into it. Then cops swarmed in and cuffed him and she said thanks for ruining another operation Behzat.

At some point Eda will calm him down and he will be able to perform. Then he will think he is Don Juan. He will strut and crow. I really hope that doesn't happen. I would just hate to see that. And his hypocrisy knows no bounds the way he acts toward Asli. He refuses to acknowledge it, grasping on to any small difference, like how much bigger he is than Cevdet, as a rationale for treating her so differently. I hate what the writers have done to poor Eda. She should never have agreed to date someone as awful as Moron.

second comment

76

Behzat showed up super drunk at a crime scene where the victim was pregnant. He had a bad reaction.

Sevket gets a copy of the security video of the hall traffic outside his mother's room the day she "died" in the hospital. It shows Bahri entering and shortly afterward leaving her room.

Moron recalls taking the drunken Behzat home and Sule frantically calling him "Dad" several times.

Behzat keeps hearing a baby crying inside his head. He puts a finger in his ear and vigorously shakes it when he does, trying to get the sound of it to quit.

Elif is writing a finger cutter killer novel and wants help from the homicide team on details of the case, and the original killer case. Only Cevdet wants to talk to her. He still thinks Vulture is the killer I believe. Ghost doesn't believe it anymore after the way the shooting of Adem affected Vulture. Vulture is probably covering up for Nazli, now I am thinking that again. As you said, perhaps he killed the rapist/abusive husband. Anyway, Elif is being a pain in the ass, and Cevdet is assuming things, and feeling he knows more than he does, as usual. He also thinks he is morally above the others.

They are still working the case of the sadistic doctor/assistant vigilante killers, though they don't realize there is such a case yet.

Sevket questions Bahri about his mother's death. He tells him she requested something of him, something she could not ask of Sevket, and he could not reveal what it was. Sevket was visibly upset

Sevket doesn't get as hyper-excited as he used to get, which is a good thing I think. He was too much, his movements too frenetic, his speech too rapid, his emotions too raw and elevated, and his thoughts too scattered. I like his character better now.

The new guy Emre is one of the most competent of the group. He would be a great addition to the team. Plus, he would drive Moron crazy every time Behzat asked Emre to ride with him instead of the dumbass. Behzat offered Emre a ride home and he encouraged him to make the transfer.

Sevket waits and then follows Bahri, but he detects the tail. They stop, and Sevket draws a handgun, points it at Bahri, and asks him if he killed his mother. What does he think he is doing? Unless he were suicidal, a killer isn't going to confess under those circumstances.

Sule has reddish hair now. Behzat has baby sounds in his head.

I noticed these episodes are now closer to an hour and 5 minutes long. They are much easier to watch at this length.

@strangebedfellows said:

I actually turned the sound on to listen to their voices - and I wish I hadn't - they all sound so peculiar - their voices aren't masculine to me. Worse still I turned it up when Zeynep was "singing" - Jeez - is that what passes for music in Turkey? It is awful. What is the matter with Sevket? He doesn't want to work in a hospital where a mother he never saw for most of his life supposedly died. My mother was a Geordie ( born in the borders between England and Scotland in Durham) and they have their own dialect - I use it a lot without realising - I always call my grown up daughter the "bairn" for instance!! However there is a word that we use for people like Sevket - it is "MammyHokey" I don't think there is a true equivalent in English let alone American! It means an adult who is still attached to their mother's apron strings - very needy and over dependent. That's as close as I can translate it. He gets on my nerves with it. The way he was acting at the mall I thought he owned it - but he was just a general manager. I thought the storyline was pretty boring - you get tired of seeing mindless violence. And Emer (Yusuf) seems to have become a part of the homicide team now - I thought the CSI and homicide departments were separate entities. Just looking at Moron and Eda together makes me nauseous - I don't know how she can do this to you T.C. you simply cannot love a woman who is this stupid surely? That whole scene made me throw up. The thing is that Moron being as terminally stupid and selfish as he is will sleep with her and then blame her for being a whore. It would not be his fault because she tempted him and then let him and decent women don't seduce men like him like that. I wonder if she will wake up and cast her eye on Emer. It would be just too bad if Beserk got somebody who didn't have issues wouldn't it? I suppose they are trying to do a Pop Eye Doyle French Connection type scenario where she got addicted because she was pretending to be. YAWN. Oh well - it's 11.30pm. I have watched this stuff most of the day!! So I will wish you goodnight.

this is my third comment since you made this one I think. If you want to hear some awful voices, check out Sevket and Moron in some of the earlier episodes. In the first 50 episodes or so, most times Sevket stopped at Behzat's house he was very hard to listen to, hard to watch too. And when Moron gets cranked up, he sounds as childish as he acts. I recall hearing some Scottish lingo when I was in the UK. Someone told me once a Scottish farmer may say "I'm gun down the hoos" or something like that, which means he is going to go beyond where the house is. I cannot think of any of our regional Americanisms at the moment. As the culture has become so dominated by television I think the regional and local accents and influences have decreased, the differences are less and fewer. People hear the same manner of speech on television news programs, and the networks try to get anchors with a very plain sounding accent, something like a mid west type accent. No southern drawls, no New York twangs, etc. ....Emre seems to want to hang out with the homicide team as much as possible. He has asked for a transfer now and Behzat has encouraged him to do so. Moron gets upset when he wants to talk to Emre, especially when he pulls him aside for a private word, or when he wants him to ride with him. Behzat appreciates his competence, his maturity, and generally just how normal he seems. That is a great contrast to his team. ...Eda was burned badly by Selim. I go back to that comment she made when explaining why she chose Harun. She said a couple of things. She said she thought she had overestimated herself. And she also talked about what she wanted in a man, saying she had thought he must be handsome and smart. That last comment sounds like she decided to settle for less, and she has certainly done that. But she could have meant she wanted more than those qualities, she also wanted someone who would be faithful and not hurt her that way. Well, I think she decided to settle for something which was easily attainable, the moron. She is probably correct in thinking he would not cheat on her, but he will hurt her in other ways. Handsome? That's in the eye of the beholder. But smart? Not even close. Someone should walk up to the writers and punch them in the face, really hard. After Moron made that speech to her that night, when he whined about how Selim got two chances, and he didn't even get one, I felt like puking. Cause she let it get to her. That was about the most childish, pouty, plea he could make. And it worked. She somehow forgot how rude, selfish, and dishonest he has always been. That is not going to change. I guess I am glad I am not that age anymore. ....I recall liking girls who were with other guys, and really wishing they were not taken. And at some point I would decide "well, I am not going to sit around wishing and waiting" and I would turn my attentions elsewhere. And sometimes I would notice a huge change in their attitudes toward me. They suddenly acted as though they were interested in me. What you said about girls wanting the guy who was no longer available to them, that rings true. I guess Eda saw Moron with Larissa, and saw that he was devoted to her even though that girl had harmed him, and she thought she saw something good in him. Damn. Zeynep, she is a strange one. She likes Behzat, but wants him on her terms, and he doesn't come that way.

Episode 77 fourth comment

I have not been taking notes on this one. Not a lot going on really that I felt like talking about.

Eda and Moron are getting along better. You know how couples start to look like each other? Maybe Eda is starting to think like Moron or somthing. Anyway, she told him they could start sleeping together.

Ghost and Cevo started to get into it with each other and they were pulled apart from each other. Ghost told him he would fuck him up, Cevo got angry and started poking his finger in his chest and they grabbed each other and Ghost was shoving him backward. Later Vulture and Cevo went on some undercover operation. Cevo told Vulture he just wanted to learn the truth. Vult asked what truth. Cevo said you're not the killer. Cevo asked how he knew. He said when you killed that man you couldn't live with it, you were ready to get fired over it. If you had killed all those people, you would already have blown your own brains out. Vulture said so why do you talk to the reporter. Cevo says the story should be told. Ghost said the novel won't solve any problems.

Sule notices Behzat's arm is bleeding. He takes off her shirt and sees his back is bruised as well. He doesn't remember what is from. Sevket tells him he saw Bahri on video enter and leave his mother's room just before she died. Behzat collapses to bed in a fetal position.

They solve the case of who killed the old man who had a habit of assaulting women; it was his grandson. He knew he was molesting the girl who looked after him.

Bahri puts Sevket on the phone with his mother, but they can't tell Behzat.

Zeynep goes to a secret room and studies a chart of the people involved in Esra's assassination.

Behzat meets the gang at Vulture's house. Behzat says no more secrets. They have plenty of beer, and they are going to talk it all out.

I have been thinking (my family always groan when I say that !! you probably will too before long!!) regarding the finger cutter killer. It was fifteen years ago and the killer is out on the streets - that doesn't seem like much of a punishment for a serial killer - however - my point is that when he is taken in and questioned he spins this tale of falsely confessing to the murders as a penance for killing his brother. But - at that point he should have been arrested for the killing of his brother for which he was never tried - but Beserk just believes him and lets him go. What kind of policing is that? It is not up to Beserk to think that he has already served what - twelve years maybe - (depending on whether the fifteen years mentioned was the start or the end of the investigation) so just let him go. This guy is a proven liar - you can't take his word for anything - I think that is really poor judgement of Beserk's part. Eda and Moron - as I say - I can't understand why Eda is willing to sleep with Moron - they are not even engaged - his parents would shun her - he must know that- yet he puts her in that position - is that love or lust. What if Eda had a brother? What would he do? Beat the living daylights out of Moron and probably kill Eda. I only hope she is on the pill - because he is too selfish to take the responsibility for birth control. She has seen the way he wants to tell everyone everything just to stroke his own ego - damn her feelings and her reputation - what will he do when they finally do the deed - he will tell everyone what a stud he is and how they do it every night and twice on Sundays. She will see her workmates looking at her and grinning knowingly or disapprovingly or contemptuously - these are muslim men remember. It will be unbearable for her - she would have to leave because Moron wouldn't. I don't think men and women are all that different on some levels (vastly on others of course) they both desire what they think they can't have. My ex- husband treated me like dirt when we were married (albeit very briefly) when we got divorced he couldn't do enough for me - buying me stuff etc where he never did before - I was always the gift horse he kicked in the mouth - he has sent me parcels of small gifts for many years now - I had to ask him to stop because I simply couldn't store them - he got miffed about that - but we still send each other cards at Birthdays - Valentines - Christmas etc. Once bitten is enough for me. I know he would revert to type immediately if we ever got back together. It will never happen. Anyways - I will watch some more of the gang and get back to you.