OK, I went back and read your edited post now. Sorry I missed that. I guess you saw all my posts after that one. I am halfway through 55 now.

About Larissa: it is hard to know with her what is happening, but I think she was trying to get out of the fraud business. The reason those guys broke into Cevo's place to threaten her with knives was to tell her to get back to work ripping people off. She was trying to get out of that business and find a simple life with a simpleton like Moron. And she lied about Moron's dad so they would let her keep "working" Moron. She had to say the old man was loaded so they would let her stay where she is. But I don't know what her plan was. She knows they won't wait forever for her to rip him off again. She is now trying to break up with Moron since she knows there is no future with him now. Asli met her at the hospital and invited her for coffee so she could learn more about her. She knows she can't have the simple life. Her fraud pimps won't let her.

Suna told Aziz she pulled something in her back while working out to explain her limping, and he was none the wiser. She finally killed the guy who hurt her sister (yeah I think they are really sisters) but was almost caught by Behzat and Aziz. She pretended that she just missed the killer herself, that he must have left just before she got there. I think Behzat thought it odd she was there but nothing more than that. But he will put it all together at some point. Aziz can't run too far or his ticker will give out and I think the excitement was too much for him the night he shot Suna. She had a good start on him and he must have figured he was done in. I think the brother and sister thing is a Muslim thing; they are all family in the religion so they call each other brother and sister. Gets confusing.

Behzat has a really hard time with Sule. I'm not sure why he did nothing after he got his mind back. The idea that she is his other daughter must have stopped him. I think learning that his unknown daughter killed Berna sort of broke his mind that night. Excrement really did a number on him. In ep 54 Sule decides to move out and room with Savas, Esra's brother, as they are both working for Serket now and it's cheaper for them to share a place. You would think that would bother people, but maybe in the right part of town people don't worry about it as much, or something like that. Anyway, she is moving out of Behzat's house. On the way out she asks if he has nothing to say. then she says something like "if I'm a murderer, so are you. You killed my mother." Behzat finally speaks and says "I never killed anyone". and "your mother killed herself". Sule asks why she killed herself, and if he is sure she killed herself. then she says "everybody thinks Berna killed herself." I thought she was really pushing it there. Behzat can't stand it, gets up and leaves and just drives.

Serket's head would explode if he learned about Sule. I worry his blood pressure will pop his head open every time he comes over and talks to Behzat, with his frenetic gesturing and intense eyes.

I think Eda is just being a friend to Moron. She would like to be friends with him, and nothing more. I think she is happy because she thinks she finally has a friend relationship with him. The reason she looked at Larissa like that, I think, is that she is privy to some of the things about her, and she doesn't really trust her. She doesn't know about the fraud stuff, I don't think, but she knows Larissa stayed at Vulture's place. And blond girls from the Ukraine don't seem to have a very good reputation in Turkey. Asli sure had her doubts about her from the start. Cevo did his best to dodge Asli's question about her and say only what he thought he could honestly say about Larissa that was good and true.

In real life, the actress who plays Eda is cheating on me, I'm pretty sure about that. I saw a photo of her with a baby, and some guy is with her in a lot of photos. So I might just have to break up with her, if I ever meet her.

I wonder when Excrement will return also. And when he does, how do things stand between him and Memduh. Memduh was supposedly trying to kill him the last time they were together, and Excrement supposedly tried to kill Memduh. But I wonder if that was all staged for Big Brother, a way to save Memduh and Excrement both. He shot him in somthing in his pocket, and it looked like it had a blood pack in it. So they might still be best buddies, I don't know. Anyway, Memduh is sitting pretty now. He has a politician in his good graces and he is king of the mafia. And shithead always seems to land on his feet, regardless.

Another stupid trope: the bad guys jump in a car and start to pull away. And the good guys start chasing them on foot. As the bad guys' car speeds off, the good guys shout at the car. But their shouting fails to stop the car. At that point the good guys turn and run back to their own car, get in, and speed off after the bad guys. The lead good guy shouts "hurry, catch them".

What would they have done had they managed to catch the car on foot? Do they believe they could grab hold of it and and prevent it from moving? I see this happen in show after show after show. One of the actors shouldn't run, but call after the others "Come back, that never works! I've seen this in a hundred shows, you can't catch them on foot! You have to use another car."

This is similar to the other type of chase scene we have previously discussed where the good guys see the suspect standing about 10 to 15 yards away, and they call out: "Hey Bad Guy, we're the cops!". And the bad guy turns and sprints away from them. One of the good guys then says something like "we've got a runner" and they begin to chase him, jumping over overturned garbage cans, shopping carts, display tables knocked over, and other obstacles the bad guy arranges for them. It is so predictable.

Speaking of cars and chases: Moron hears the department has some new cars and begins bugging Major Tahsin for a new car for homicide. "look at all the humans, and we have one car. we could solve crimes so much faster if we had a new car." Tahsin reminds Moron what happened the last time homicide got a new car. A memory flashback shows a new car speeding down the street and then swerve into a side skid, which turns into a barrel roll, smashing both sides and the roof of the car. Moron looks sheepish and lowers his head. Later Behzat talks to him saying the department has cut the gas money allotment, so over the allocated amount of gas money they have to buy their gas and submit forms to partial reimbursement. Moron insists he doesn't care, that he will spend his own money on gas.

Finally they have two cars, and sure enough there is another chase of a bad guy. This time there are two cars of detectives giving chase, with Behzat riding in Moron's new squad car, and Ghost and Vulture in the old one. Suddenly the new car stalls, and Behzat asks Moron what the problem is. He checks the dash and tells him "we're out of gas". Behzat shouts "you didn't fill it up?" He jumps out and gets in the old car and Moron cries "but what do I do?" Behzat yells "push".

I am getting a bit worn out and will crash before much longer I suppose. Talk to you later.

This show goes in fits and starts - much like Vulture's driving !! When it concentrates on cases it gets slow for me so I fast forward. My head gets woolly with all the Turkish names that sound so similar - I lose track of who did what to who. With the major characters you know them of course - their lives are easier to follow than the crims. So you saw the Eda actress with a baby - she was stepping out on you then - it's a hopeless case now - don't go all Moron on me!! Another tiresome trope is they get a brand new car - usually very high end - and they are told "Bring this car back without a scratch or else" of course - cue mad car chases - collisions - broken glass - bullet holes - fenders hanging off etc - how many times have you seen that? So they are going to have a push pursuit are they? I think this is what passes for humour in Turkey. So now Sule and Savas are going to live together - that spells trouble - they are two very dodgy characters - but I think Sule loves Beserk - I don't think she will try to hurt him anymore. How could she? Savas is full of resentment of his sister - don't you just love the projection yet again - I committed a crime - you didn't get me off - it's your fault. I am not sure how that coupling is going to pan out. I doubt any good will come of it - they are both so full of hate and resentment. I don't think Memduh and Excrement ever fell out - they go far to far back for that. Excrement knows that Memduh was maybe tempted - but he also knew that he would overcome that temptation as he probably has many times before - he didn't bother opening his eyes when he knew there was a gun to his head - his trust in Memduh is absolute or as near as. I think that scene in the wood where Memduh was shot and supposedly killed was a set up between them - and it worked Memduh is now king of the jungle and Excrement and he will rule it together. Larissa - I don't think that is going to end well - once these pimps get their claws into a woman there is only death will get them out of it. I think Larissa has probably developed feelings for Moron - she doesn't want to hurt him but she is between a rock and a hard place. Even if they married it would not make a difference - her pimp would still kill her. Once he finds out that Moron's father has no money he will probably beat her at the least - in which case Moron and the crew will go after him and probably kill him. It would be the only solution for her. But she still couldn't stay there because another pimp would take his place - she would have to leave and either go home or to another country. You are in front of me now so I will catch up with you and have a chat later.

One thing I don't get is why Moron says that if it comes out that he is dating Larissa he will be kicked off the force. I am thinking this may be more hyperbole or crazy thinking on his part. How is it illegal to date a woman with a record? I think they have Moron say this to create a problem, to create tension. It provides the motive for Cevdet to lie to protect him, and more reason for Moron to freak out when people ask about his personal life. Poor Moron, he really doesn't care if Larissa lies to him about her mother to get money or not, just so she loves him. The thing is though, I think maybe she does love him now. She is used to nothing but very mean men in her life who threaten and control her, or rich guys who want to sleep with her. In Moron she found someone who doesn't care what she has done and still loves her. He is a simple fellow who loves her in spite of everything.

Yeah if Eda has been running around on me, getting married and having kids on the side, that's just too much. Granted, she and I have never met, but she should have held out for me, and she didn't. Ghost seems to have two girls on a line now. He only needs one and they are both pretty nice.
But the language thing would be troublesome. She would have to learn English because I'm not about to tackle Turkish. Also, I'm feeling pretty old now, so she will have to chase me I guess. lol

I have just watched ep 55 - as usual the crim stories pass me by. Sevket has been talking to Resnat his son - the actor is having a growth spurt I think - he has lost most of that puppy fat and looks much better for it - he looks like a young man now instead of a horny child. He wants to go to another country - Ibiza!! Which is LIBERAL for which read LUST. When Sevket takes him home he sees his wife kiss her lawyer on both cheeks and this sends him into a jealous rage - even as he sleeps with Funda. (I probably mix up the events per episode as I watch a couple at a time) When Sule asks him isn't his wife allowed to move on after the divorce he says no. He can - but she should probably enter a convent in his estimation. This culture is beyond comprehension. Asli asks Eda to investigate Larissa - your beloved promptly dobs her in to Moron - knowing what a hateful dominant bully he is - she must know that he will make Asli suffer for that. You are well rid of Eda - she would have broken your heart !! Suna has gotten away with it AGAIN - this is the second time she has been at a scene where the witness has not survived it. What will she do now that there appears to be no more fingers that need chopping off? That journalist - how easy it was for her to walk into the homicide department and photograph Beserk's wall of doom. Then she interviews Azeyes - who is eager for her to take a picture of him - so she says she will bring her camera and meets him in the street later on. They do - and he says we can't publish this story until the killer has been caught - and she replies - ok - repeats exactly what he just said - and then says - but if you see the murder story anywhere else I will leave you alone. ??? Does that make sense to you? Now he is looking for some trollop and when he finds her he sits so close beside her and starts doing his spidery black gloved finger gestures - then we see her in bed - naked and a hand enters the shot to caress her back closely followed by Azeyes in the flesh - oh excuse me - I have to take time out to vomit quietly in private. That poor young girl having to film that. I think he would make a good Fagin - but bad everything else. Larissa's pimp seems to be following her around - I think as you say she has developed a fondness for Moron - but I can't see any way of them being together. I saw the "new" car situation - the first thing Moron said was they were too mean to fill it with gas and yet he didn't do anything about that and then it stopped in the middle of a chase. How does this bumbling fool keep his job? I see Sule has ditched her ditzy miss innocent persona but as usual in this show nobody wonders why - I know she has been depressed but she isn't any more. I wonder if she and Savas will fall in love and straighten themselves out emotionally. Esra has fallen out with Beserk again - why doesn't he just tell her the truth about Sule? He couldn't be charged with anything because he only has her word that she killed Berna - they wouldn't dare introduce that footage because their continuity would be really beggared then. I reiterate DNA. No sign of Ceyda - let's hope this is permanent. I don't drive but whenever you see Beserk driving he always looks like he is really driving - he checks his interior mirror and his wing mirrors and looks out of his windows on a regular basis - it looks authentic. I don't notice Ghost or Vulture doing that. Oh - I loved Moron's nightmare - when he was bitten by that dog and wanted rabies shots - if he knew how horrible those shots are he wouldn't have asked - anyway when he is sitting in the office and suddenly starts to foam at the mouth and go into fits - somebody says - it must be rabies - and they all draw their guns and point them at him - we might as well shoot him - he is going to die anyway. Cue to wake up in a cold sweat. I told you I have a strange sense of humour - it made me laugh !!!

update - I have noticed from your posts subtle differences in the dialogue - for instance that conversation about Sules mother did not appear in the scenes I watched - he simply tells her "I didn't kill anyone" and she simply leaves. In the car chase when Moron says "What shall I do " Beserk shouts "Run" and jumps into Ghost and Vultures car. These are only a couple of the anomalies - I wonder if the American version is edited and subtitled differently.

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update - I have noticed from your posts subtle differences in the dialogue - for instance that conversation about Sules mother did not appear in the scenes I watched - he simply tells her "I didn't kill anyone" and she simply leaves. In the car chase when Moron says "What shall I do " Beserk shouts "Run" and jumps into Ghost and Vultures car. These are only a couple of the anomalies - I wonder if the American version is edited and subtitled differently.

Maybe so. I guess there are subtle differences in our slang and expressions, so maybe there are different English translations, a different one for American English. Also, sometimes I combine related scenes, I mean, when they show a scene, switch to another elsewhere, then switch back to that first scene, splitting up the developments so we follow all story arcs at the same time. I sometimes combine the scenes so they are not split up. Did that make sense? And I sometimes do this from memory without having made notes the whole way through. So I may have made mistakes, though I usually try to be very close to exactly what the screen says. In the Sule scene, initially he says "I didn't kill anyone". I think she speaks next and somewhere after that he says she killed herself. Then Sule challenges that, asking how he knows that, and finally saying people think Berna killed herself. While she is talking Behzat is sayind "Sule" several times, louder each time, indicating to her that she is getting to him and he's telling her to drop it. Then he leaves. I didn't do a really accurate job on that scene, I recall. And I would have to go back and look at the out of gas scene again to be sure now. It could be that the Turkish for Run sounds like Push and I conflated it in my mind.
Will answer the other post in a minute or two

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Suna has gotten away with things now, but I wonder if she will be able to leave it alone. She has gotten into the habit of locating abusers of women and making them pay. If she stops now, it will be an unsolved crime. But if she can't stop, she will get caught. That disgusting Aziz, besides being a repulsive, horny, grandpa, is also a hound dog on a scent about this case, and there don't appear to be any lines he won't cross to investigate it. He will catch her if she doesn't stop being the avenging killer. ...I saw that scene of the young lady in bed, and Aziz creeping in from the side. God, it looked like a scene from a horror movie. It must be doubly revolting from a woman's perspective. Those creepy eyes of his look the same whether he is questioning a witness or trying to seduce a woman. I think the scene with the journalist and him discussing holding the story might have lost something in translation. I took it to mean she was telling him that she wouldn't share the story with someone else. As in, you can cancel our deal if this story shows up somewhere else by a different journalist, i.e. I won't try to trick you by publishing under a different name or by giving the story to another journalist. Larissa was trafficked and put to work and can see no way out. She also knows that her fairytale life with Moron cannot work out in the long run, that she isn't what his family would want for him, especially with her record and the shame attached to women who have been forced into prostitution and theft. She will try to save herself and also save Moron. Who knows how that will end?

Yes, "the first thing Moron said was they were too mean to fill it with gas and yet he didn't do anything about that", exactly. And this was after the captain had that talk with him about the gas budget, having to use his money to buy gas and then get reimbursed, etc. and Moron answered that he didn't care and would pay for the gas. As he always does, he lied. He knew he was short on money, that he could barely make payments on the loans he had taken out. He doesn't think of consequences, he just lies to get what he wants. In real life he would be fired. I won't be surprised if he gets suspended before long. I have not seen that happen yet, so this isn't a spoiler. But he just screws up time after time, and takes no thought for consequences. How long can it go on before he makes a large enough screw up that it cannot be covered up?

You mentioned the footage of Berna getting killed. Even if that footage showed up somewhere, somehow, do you think it implicates Sule? We both saw it and thought it looked like a man. I certainly thought the figure looked bigger than Sule. So if it was Sule, that must have been some well made disguise Excrement gave her. If Behzat were to arrest her, even with the footage, I don't think she could be convicted unless she confessed to her crime. She might do that. Her guilt and her affection for Behzat and Serket may cause her to confess if he arrested her. I can see it going that way. We will just have to wait and see how they write that part of the story. My guess is they will delay dealing with that until closer to the end of the show. Because where do they take the story after that? I guess they could show her in prison, and use several episodes to deal with Serket going crazy, flipping from his affection for Sule to his outrage, and so on. He is too much at times. I would have to get away from him, push him out of my house, like Behzat often does. Did you see the part where Memduh called the psychologist on the phone? Serket was there and asked who called. She lied and said it was a panic attack patient. She is working with Memduh. I am wondering if she somehow slipped a drug to Ceyda to put her in make believe world, or hypnotized her, something. They showed us that bit, but have not developed that story arc any more since then. Anyway, Ceyda is in the nut ward, so out of the story for a while at least. ....I loved the rabies nightmare. At first I thought Moron was playing a joke on the team, but I rejected that notion quickly. He isn't that clever, and he was truly worried about getting rabies so it wouldn't be funny to him. And he isn't the sort to laugh at himself. I loved it when they all drew pistols and began firing into him to put him down like a rabid dog. LOL

I'm watching ep 57. I won't spill too much. But I will tell you that Selim has risen in rank in the CSI department (with help from his mafia friends, no doubt). He and Moron are still enemies, though things would be calm if Moron would leave them alone.

I have just watched Ep 56 in which major things happen but which you haven't mentioned - so I am afraid to mention them now because they are quite big events and I can't imagine you not mentioning them unless you think you will spoil it for me !! The events concern Beserk and Moron - and take place in a story where a man crashes his car and whilst he is stunned four following motorists all guys - steal a bag of cash which was in the car. Naturally the guy comes after them. Have you seen that episode? I am starting ep 57 later on tonight.

Yes. I am starting ep 58 now. I didn't want to spoil anything so was waiting for you. Go ahead and talk all you want about it.

If I recall correctly, you have seen the incident in Larissa's place at the end of the episode. She has to defend herself. Have you seen it?

So Beserk has finally made up his mind has he? Or hasn't he? He says to Sule - "I have come for you" she says "Dad?" he takes her hand and puts a handcuff on it and then handcuffs himself to her. But when we next see them they are sitting on the couch together. So what is going to happen there? I just can't see him taking her into the station and charging her - they have too much history together - he has loved her platonically for over a year - she really is like a daughter to him, and now he believes she really is his daughter. Repeat DNA. Will he think that she has suffered enough - that she is too emotionally frail to endure life in prison - she tried to commit suicide in a hospital let alone a prison. Will he find it in his heart to forgive her? I don't know - speaking as a mother of an only child who is a daughter there is no chance that I would forgive. I am a firm believer that it is the height of arrogance to forgive on someone else's behalf - only the victim can forgive in my book. I would not harm the person who did it in his circumstances - but I would never want to see her again - let alone live with her. And Larissa - so the worm finally turned - now - instead of doing the right thing - she is visibly injured - she can claim self defence and she would get away with it - so why not go to the police? Nah - too sensible - Moron will now try to enlist the help of his friends with disposing of the body and clearing up the crime scene - don't forget they did it for Ghost and Feride - why not Moron. And what is the money that the accident guy gave to Sevket? The accident guy was non violent until he was attacked and very respectful to the old lady - he didn't seem very Mafia to me. And Sevket - I don't quite know what to make of him. He is the manager of a mall who has "contacts" that don't seem particularly kosher - he is a bit shady - so I don't know what is going on there. As you pointed out - Funda seems to be on the shady side also - but she didn't seek Sevket out - he went to her for Sule and as he is a narcissistic hysteric he couldn't resist inserting himself into the situation - they couldn't have foreseen that. of course Funda might have seen an opportunity when he did and reported back to whomever she is working for. But why? I find it strange the way Sevket even visits Sule in her new apartment - she is nothing beyond an employee to him - and a very young girl - it is kind of creepy if you look at it objectively although I don't think the writers intend for you to take it that way - I think they just mean to portray him as a kindly avuncular figure who is looking out for her. I too asked why Moron would lose his job if his bosses knew about Larissa - I think it is probably because she is a convicted felon and a security risk - even if she was just a prostitute it would be viewed as bringing the force into disrepute. The banshee has now given Suna another reason to start killing some more - but oooh dear - what is this - Suna's bossy sister Emer has been revealed as being present at these orgies - I knew she was a bad'n as soon as she demanded that Suna warm her milk up for her!!

I think Emer is going to wind up getting Suna busted. As soon as the guy who forced her into a prostitution/rape film got killed, she transformed from a cowering, fragile, basketcase who was scared of the world outside into a confident, somewhat demanding personality. She seems concerned that Suna wants to keep killing and that she might get caught. But she is also sort of blase about it, not taking care to keep her voice down when talking about it with people nearby. But the harbinger of doom, in my opinion, is her interest in meeting Behzat and others in the investigation. Why? Oh, she is just curious, having heard their names and all, and she just wants to meet them. Suna is stupidly not too concerned that her sister could do something on her own, and she thinks she has contained the situation by telling her "well, maybe eventually" or something like that. That instantaneous and complete transformation of Emer's personality should be causing a 5 bell alarm to go off in Suna's head. Danger, something is super whacko wrong with my sister, way worse than I imagined or realized. Suna should quit killing, and spend some serious time with her sister to at least try to assess her vulnerabilities, the ones she poses for Suna. But that is not going to happen it seems.

How much do I give away? Larissa didn't call Moron to get him so sweep things under the rug. She just needed him. My concern was that Moron might try a repeat of the body disposal fiasco they did for the widow friend of Ghost's. But I will tell you that it didn't seem to occur to him. He just wanted to spoon with Larissa and comfort her. And she wanted to hold him one more time before facing the music, come what may.

There are other big developments coming. Esra will find out a very important piece of information, giving her some insight into Behzat's troubled moods. Elif will show her true journalist colors and publish an article on the finger cutter killer case, in a major Fuck You to Aziz, breaking her iron clad promise to him. I am writing a post about all this but holding off on it just a little longer to let you catch up.

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SPOILER ALERT, if you have not seen episode 57 yet, you might want to hold off on this as I reveal a few surprises below. This is mostly talking about the characters and developments in the story about them.

Character events: You have watched the scene now where Behzat stops Esra on the road and she unloads her pent up emotions on him. She knows he is troubled and he won't let her inside, won't tell her anything, cannot get over the past, etc. and this is not what she envisioned when she said she was willing to "be unhappy together". Finally Behzat speaks and says "Sule...is my daughter." The scene and episode ends there. In episode 58 he tells Sule that the prosecutor now knows she is his daughter. Sule asks what she said, and he says "nothing". I guess she was just shocked, and she figured he would fill in the blanks for her once he was ready to talk. Asking him questions doesn't do any good until he feels like sharing. Behzat tells Sule he is tired of making mistakes. She asks "now what?" Behzat sort of crumples down and lays his forehead on her leg, emotionally exhausted to the point almost of tears, one imagines. Of course, you never see more than a moist eye with Behzat. Sule cries though, saying "Dont cry dad. I am here."

So she is moving back in with Behzat now, and Savas will have to manage the rent on his own. He tells Sule not to worry, that he can manage it. She says she will get Serket to raise his salary. He says that's ok, really. He is turning out to be a better person than we thought at first. I guess he was just very bitter at the way his sister handled things. She did what was right, but perhaps she had latitutde and didn't cut him any slack. But she couldn't, it would look bad if she had. Anyway, he seems to have put his immature attitude behind him and is trying to put the good foot forward. We shall see if it holds, or if he reverts once life sends him a tough situation.

You know that Moron spent the night spooning with Larissa after she killed her attacker. He left it for someone else, her roommate, to call the cops about the homicide. As usual, Moron is blown this way, and then that way, by the strong winds of his desires, emotions, stupidity, and lack of character. So far I have only seen the reactions of his homicide teammates, Selim, and Esra to this incident. Evidently Asli and his parents have not heard the news yet; they just think he is busy with work, out with the boys, or hitting nightclubs. If Asli is smart at all, she will try to use this incident to get closer to her father and bypass Moron to get permission to begin officially seeing Cevdet. But I doubt that will happen. It would ruin the formula the writers like milking so much. And if she were smart enough to do that, she would have done it back when her father had disowned Moron after the wedding disaster. Hopefully this incident won't send the father into the hospital again. If he dies Asli will be stuck with Moron for life. ..Since it happened, Moron has been moping about the office. Eda is concerned and has asked him several times if he is alright, and Moron answers that he is fine. Eda knows he isn't and is becoming frustrated that he won't be honest with her. Girls always feel better when they talk about things which bother them, even though there are no solutions to the problems they speak about. Guys get depressed when they talk about such things; if there isn't a way to fix the problem, then talking about how bad they feel just makes them feel even worse. It reminds them that there is no way to fix the problem. Anyway, Eda decides to talk to Moron away from the office and calls him to meet her in the evening. I am sure Moron got his hopes up once again when she called. You won't believe where they meet; some unfinished construction site better suited to a murder than a private chat. If it were not Eda calling him there I would be worried. And now Eda seems to have the affliction Cevdet suffers from: the inability to start speaking or say anything which begins to suggest that she is going to get to a point in the near future. I would be checking my calendar to see about re-scheduling when I had about a month of free time. Come on Eda. OK, there it is. She can tell he has been depressed and she wants to see if he can talk about it. Yeah, I knew that was it. But damn, she goes through all this cloak and dagger crap just to try to get him to talk. In her defense, she did try asking him directly several times without success first, so maybe this is what it takes to get Moron to open up. But Eda doesn't seem to understand the danger in what she is doing. She has learned nothing about Moron from past experience. She is trying to do that girl thing that girls do with other girls- "hey, I'm your friend, I am here for you, you can call me whenever you need to talk. I care about you and I want you to talk to me about your problems. etc. etc. etc." But she doesn't get it. Moron cannot be her friend.

If she expresses the normal, human, concern that people have when they see other people in pain, Moron can only see one thing. He tells himself "YES, it is finally happening! She is falling in love with me! Why else would she talk to me?" Moron is like Ceyda. He has his own world and interprets everything the way he wants it to be. When she slapped him across the face for kissing her, he told himself that it meant she loved him. Anything less harsh than that is sure to mean she is falling for him.

Eda doesn't realize how deluded Moron is, and how resistant he is to hard facts which don't line up to support his delusions. It is absolutely amazing the way he can reject reality when it isn't the same as his fantasy world. But Eda isn't aware that he filters the world around him this way. She thinks he is basically normal, and can tell the difference between the concern of a friend and romantic love.

Wow, OK that scene didn't turn out the way I thought it would. Moron seemed to be waiting for her to say something more than "you can call me whenever you want to talk about things". Eda thought this would cheer him up. But Moron was waiting to hear the magic words. I really thought he might profess his love for her again, but he didn't. And Ghost called him so he had to leave at that point.

Ghost may be in trouble now. Elif the journalist has published an article about the finger cutter killer case being unresolved. Ghost was stupid to soften towards her when she mentioned Ilgin's name. Behzat will assume Ghost spilled details of the case to her. Ghost won't know how to explain her knowledge of the case, how she could know things Behzat had on his wall. It will make him look guilty. Will he confess that he gave her Aziz's contact information? Ghost is inclined to be honest with Behzat, so I expect he will admit sending her to Aziz, and honestly deny giving out information himself. Of course, now Aziz should be furious. He will be on the warpath looking for Elif, his big eyes bugging several inches out of his face as he searches for her. Ghost likes Elif, but is furious because she used him to get information. He doesn't know about her sneaking into the bureau, only that she spoke to Aziz. He "barked her face off" and doesn't want to see her again, he says. We shall see.

I don't like Elif, though she is attractive. She flat out lied to Aziz, making him a promise she fully intended to break, and promptly broke. And she carries on as though there is nothing wrong with that, and doesn't know what the fuss is all about. It's as if she is saying "but I am a journalist. Gaining your trust, betraying your trust, and lying is what we do. Why is that such a big deal?" I guess you can tell I don't have a high opinion of journalists in general. The profession itself is noble enough, but 99% of the people in it are pure scum who would kill their grandmother for a story. And they don't even print the truth in that story. They just use the facts they learn to help fashion a believable lie. They print propaganda and are proud of it. Most of them are Marxist scum.

About Serket and the mall: it is Serket's boss Resat (same name as his son) who had the connection to Big Brother. I don't find that too odd however. The mafia types try to legitimize and launder their money through investing in real businesses, and they set people up in charge of banks, and other businesses which handle a lot of cash precisely for that purpose. (South Florida saw an explosion of new banks in the 1980s because Pablo Escobar needed some place to launder money he used inside the US. He brought tons of cash back to Columbia as well, far more than he could find a way to launder. That was his biggest problem as far as cash flow, finding a way to explain it all. He buried billions of dollars in the ground because he couldn't launder it fast enough.) Shopping malls take in lots of cash everyday so it makes sense that the mafia would have their fingers in them.

Serket let Sule stay with his family for a while, and she was with Behzat for about a year and a half also. He gave her a custom made job working for him because of that relationship also. So I didn't think it odd that he would stop by her new place to check up on her. She was almost a surrogate daughter or niece to him. She is a niece to him in fact, but he doesn't know it. And, being the nosey type that he is, he wants to impose his view of how things should be in her life just as he does in Behzat's. And he thinks she should stay with Behzat, though he is less pushy with her since she is not a blood relation, as far as he knows anyway.

"And what is the money that the accident guy gave to Sevket?" I am guessing I either slept or ff through that part. No clue about that. I recall he tried to illegally cancel some contracts he had so he could do a favor for a friend, and then had to back off the gas on that idea when he was getting sued, and also when Behzat got angry because he was putting people out of work who couldn't afford the loss of pay. Serket is definitely not above the occasional shady deal here and there, and I am sure that his boss instucts him to do shady stuff on behalf of his mafia backers. But I don't recall that scene.

As far as Funda is concerned, I expect that in future episodes, when they do more in the way of illuminating her relationship with Memduh, they may offer some explanation about how she was selected as the psychologist. Maybe Serket's boss has a list of preferred professionals and businesses to patronize. Serket always looks to save money, so if his boss had given him such a list with the adviso that these people would give him a discount, that might explain why she was chosen. Just a guess. But I imagine we will learn more whenever they decide to expand on that arc.

About Larissa and Moron and her getting him kicked off the force: your thoughts were my best guess also as to why he was worried about being found out. Any association between a police officer and a felon would probably be enough for termination. And Behzat probably made that point to him the first time, when she took the gold bracelets. I don't know if it would be automatic or not, but I think this is the best explanation for why their relationship could get him fired. But if someone went to bat for him, used their influence, almost anything could be covered up, excused, etc. If need be, Behzat and Esra can probably save his job for him. As love sick as Moron is, he will claim he doesn't care. Until he does, of course.

3rd comment

END OF Episode 58 AGAIN, MORE SPOILERS. The end of 58 has some big developments. A lot happens with Eda and Moron, more than I told you about in the last post. And some other big stuff happens.

Eda and Moron continued.

I was wrong, that scene wasn't finished. Eda thought Moron was capable of having a friendship with her now. She has never grasped how immature and fragile a person he is. To me he acts pretty childish, but he is also very vulnerable in front of her.

She asks him: "What is it? What's the matter? Did I say something"

Moron: "Why are you saying all this now? You pity me, is that it? Is this all because you pity me?"

Eda responds: "What are you talking about? Why would I pity you? I am worried for you."

Now Moron is angrily defiant: "You don't need to worry about me. Thank you, but I don't need it! I have people I love. I call them up when I'm feeling down. Their worry is more than enough for me. Don't you pity me."

Eda; "I don't pity you. You are....it's not pity."

Moron: "Why do you want to be friends all of a sudden? Huh? Why do you want to be friends with me? I did everything in my power! You know this. Everything! Remember that day at the cinema? How excited I was? I studied English for six months! Just because you asked me to! Vocabulary in the morning, grammar in the evening. Just to get you to like me. Even now, I let Cevdet be with Asli just to get you to approve of me. What have you done? I've done all this. How about you, Eda Akkaya? What have you done? Tell me. Nothing! I would die for you. I would have done anything for you. But you chose Selim over me. And then what? You gave him your love. He cheated on you. Even then, you gave him one more chance. You gave him two! I didn't even get one. Remember that night? I came to your house. You refused to dome down to meet me. The dogs bit me! I was bitten!

Then my wedding. You showed up at my wedding. I froze at your sight. You looked at me with eyes full of meaning. I ran away on my wedding day! I walked out on my own wedding! What else do you want?

Now you decide to be worried for me. Don't worry about me. Don't worry your pretty little head. I can take care of myself. I don't need your pity. "

Eda: "Harun"

Moron cuts her off: "I don't want to hear any more. I'm about to lose it." (Holy shit. About to?) "I'm taking off. I'm pissed off." Moron gets up and storms off leaving Eda sitting there, emotionally devastated.

Then Moron stops and says to Eda: "Let's go, I'll drop you home."

Eda replies: "I'm not coming."

Moron: "It's late. How else are you going to go back?"

Eda: "I'm not coming. You go ahead."

Moron: "It's really dark out. Come on, let's go."

Eda: "I can take care of myself."

Moron starts to leave, then comes back and says: "Fine. At least let me hail a cab for you, then."

Eda: "Fine."

Moron: "Let's go."

Eda: "I'm coming." She drops some papers or something saying "These aren't mine, anyway."

Like I said, Moron cannot be her friend. Eda was pretty naive to think he could be. With his history of wild unstable behavior, and intense infatuation with her, she should have realized that a normal friend relationship wasn't possible with him, at least not at this point. I guess she thought he had moved on because of Larissa.

Moron goes back to the club and Ghost asks what Eda wanted. Nothing he says. Ghost says she called you to say nothing? Moron says she just said she was worried about him and said he could call her to talk if he wanted. Cevo pipes up and says 'see, I told you she was worried'.

Then Moron angrily says: "It's not that at all. She pities me."

Behzat asks if he told her that. Moron says "of course I did. Thank you, but I don't need your pity. I have friends that care enough." They are all looking intently at Moron. Vulture says "Are you dumb? You run after her when she's not interested. Now that she wants to talk, you run away."

Moron "It's just pity. I don't want her pity."

Behzat: "Look here. Listen to what I'm going to say. You should all listen. .....We humans like to suffer. That's what we want. "

Behzat is pretty drunk, asks what are we doing here? We need to change our mentality, and leaves.

Driving home Moron thinks of Larissa, and of Eda.

Elif called Ghost so he stops to speak to her on the way home. She tells him he was wrong to get mad at her, she is a journalist and writing is what she does. She lies to him and says she just wants to be friends with him because he is her only friend in Ankara. The truth is her boss told her to keep digging on that story and she wants to keep her access to that office. As his friend she has a reason to show up there now and then. I am sure that is what she is thinking. She is a piece of crap. But Ghost doesn't write her off, leaves the door open a crack. She will worm her way in I bet.

Moron is parked outside an apartment building, drinking and looking up at the building. He gets some more liquid courage and goes to the door but stops before buzzing Eda, goes back to his car, and drives away. Inside Eda is torn, thinks of making a phone call, then tosses the phone away. I think you're right. She has started to like Moron. God, I don't believe it. Ankara is full of crazy people. Can you imagine the stupid babies they will make?

Behzat downs some liquid courage and rings the bell at Esra's place. She opens the door and asks if he knows what time it is. He tells her he is unbearable, frustrating and insensitive. She agrees. He says he is a bit drunk. And he tells her to marry him. She is stunned by this. He repeats it. And she says yes. He gives her a ring. And there is no talking after that.

You are like me - I tend to doze off when I get bored with the plot!! Now once again I don't know where you are at in the plot. I think I am on Ep 58 and Beserk has made a BIG decision. I am puzzled both by Moron and by Eda - I said a while back that I think Eda is seeing Moron in a different light - I think all the business with Meliha and Larissa is making her jealous. Women are contrary creatures - if they know a guy is attracted to them or in love with them and they are not particularly responsive to that - they will just carry on treating them the same way. BUT if that guy shows interest in another female she is immediately miffed - how dare he transfer the affections that she didn't want to somebody else? So she is immediately competitive and wants to prove that she can get him if she wants him - it may even trigger a desire for him which wasn't there before. I think this is happening with your beloved (sorry to have to dash your hopes again) . I can still see Eda and Moron having a screaming argument which will end up with him kissing her and her responding. He seems to love Larissa when he is with her- but I think he loves Larissa loving him more than anything else. I think he still loves Eda. This episode plot is a blood feud which isn't particularly interesting. That journalist - I just want to smash that grinning face with a brick - they have no scruples, no conscience, no sense of right or wrong or decency - and Ghost is obviously willing to forgive her. I don't understand why - in the light of that newspaper article- Azeyes hasn't been kicked off the investigation. I don't know if it's just me but he is getting creepier and creepier - if you watch him around women he is always too close - too touchy - always with the arms around them or holding their hands for far too long. It seems that Beserk has decided to forgive Sule - I suppose she is his daughter ( I still doubt that - do you notice how cagey she is about her mother? Beserk can't even remember her face) and she is the only one he has left and it gives him a chance to be a good father instead of a mostly absent one. Sule obviously loves him so maybe it's a chance of redemption for both of them. It seems like there are no laws about drinking and driving in Turkey - you never see a cop with a breathalizer which is just as well because the keystone cops would never be allowed out of the office if there were. It's such a bad message to send out. I find it repulsive the way they don't so much drink as throw the liquid down their throats. It also amuses me how they take their shoes off in every house they enter - can you imagine if there was a villain in that house who ran away - oops - wait up - I've just got to tie my shoe laces up !! It's not as if the houses are posh - they are mostly adobe shacks with corrugated iron on the roof. Nobody seems to have central heating. Anyway - let me know if you have seen Beserk's latest decision.

check my comments before your latest. I posted three of them. Yes I have seen 58