Discuss 90 Day Fiancé: Happily Ever After?

Jorge is a complete POS. Lies to his webcam hottie about the sweet life in the US and can't figure out why she dumped his worthless ass when he couldn't come through. Tries to trash her when he can't get her back. I'm no Anfisa fan, but he is way worse.

Paola/Russ, same old, same old. Why are they on again?

I thought that might be the case with Pedro and Chantel, but this one is heating up. Looks like we will see physical fights at the family of Chantel home.

I feel bad for Annie. First has to support her family as a sex worker in Thailand, now has to bang some skanky old loser American to support her family.

I thought I was done with Nicole and Azan, but I was wrong. I hope to see lots of coverage of Azan's other girlfriends. Nicole will throw a tantrum for the ages. Can't wait.

Nicole 2.0, otherwise named Molly, there is just no excuse. None.

Lastly, I have to admit that I miss DanMo. Thought I was done with them, but I could do more.

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@jonnieblack said:

There you are. My night owl sister.🐲

Yeah, I'm about to bow out.

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Me too. The wine is kicking in. 🍷

@jonnieblack said:

Me too. The wine is kicking in. 🍷

I was literally eating grapes before I posted my previous post.

grapes

You are eating and I am drinking grapes. Who is having more fun?

Where are you hiding, Jonnie?

Anyway, what in the world is wrong with Nicole? She knows Azan was not doing a prank. I did have to laugh at Luis shenanigans while being locked up in the guest room.

I can't wait to see Pedro's sister laid up on the new couch at Chez Chantal.

What is wrong with Annie? Did I hear she say she wanted a kid by David?

You missed me? How sweet of you!

I didn't comment on last week's episode. Busy, and not much new material. But this week, oh my heck!

Nicole's wedding dress, at least a size too small. If she bends over low the girls will pop right out. Not that she will ever wear it, though. Glad to see the brother again. He got the common sense in the family.

Pedro and Chantel starting to feel fake again. Another contrived way to create family drama, which seems to be their only storyline.

I think the Russ and Juan drama is totally scripted and fake.

Molly, Luis didn't change. What you are seeing now is the real him. I can't completely blame him because her expectations of him were unrealistic. He seems to want her to kick him out so he can move back in with his brother and keep the green card.

David and Annie, I am losing interest fast.

And then we have Jorge. I hate him more every week. Anfisa is the adult here. He does lie constantly, blames others for his problems and hides behind his sister. A manchild who is not ready for adult responsibilities.

Good to be back!

@jonnieblack said:

You missed me? How sweet of you!

Yes, I do declare I missed our banter.

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Nicole's wedding dress, at least a size too small. If she bends over low the girls will pop right out. Not that she will ever wear it, though.

It wasn't that special anyway. I liked the first one better.

Glad to see the brother again. He got the common sense in the family.

I think there is a lot of common sense in that family. I just think that they just get tired of talking Nicole, because it is not as if she'll listen. What she will do is squeal at them for bringing up any concern. In fact, she doesn't even like to hear any concern in her own body, and that is why she is having panic attacks.

I do think that the family should stop bailing out Nicole, buying her a wedding dress, and funding her needs.

By the way, I never knew Nicole had an apartment. I thought she was living out of a motel.

Pedro and Chantel starting to feel fake again. Another contrived way to create family drama, which seems to be their only storyline.

The only thing that seems fake is the investigation talk.

think the Russ and Juan drama is totally scripted and fake.

Molly, Luis didn't change. What you are seeing now is the real him. I can't completely blame him because her expectations of him were unrealistic.

Yep!

He seems to want her to kick him out so he can move back in with his brother and keep the green card.

I don't think he wants to move out at all. Did you see him lock himself up in the guest room and threaten to call the police?

David and Annie, I am losing interest fast.

And then we have Jorge. I hate him more every week. Anfisa is the adult here. He does lie constantly, blames others for his problems and hides behind his sister. A manchild who is not ready for adult responsibilities.

I agree he does lie, because I feel he doesn't want to hear the wrath of Anfisa. What he did wasn't abnormal by visiting a divorce attorney, but he felt he had to lie to just not be in a battle w/Anfisa.

As soon as the words "divorce attorney" was mentioned, she blew up, and he got rattled and lied. Wrong move, but I guess he rather have peace right now and suffer the consequences later. It seems to be a pattern. It all started when he lied that he was rich and never told Anfisa about his lack of money, until she arrived to the US.

Still, I say he didn't want the wrath of Anfisa, because she went all bonkers in Russia, when he didn't buy her the purse she wanted.

I do agree that he is a manchild that hides behind his sister, but he is married to a volatile person, imo.

@Poetist said:

By the way, I never knew Nicole had an apartment. I thought she was living out of a motel.

She lives in a motel that has been converted to apartments. I feel bad saying this, because I don't think Nicole is a bad person, but I hope the shit hits the fan in a major way in Morocco. I think that is the only way she and her daughter can be saved from worse down the road. She has one of the thickest skulls I've ever seen.

I do agree that he is a manchild that hides behind his sister, but he is married to a volatile person, imo.

Yes, I had forgotten how Anfisa uses her temper to control situations.

Last night was a pile of steaming shiite and I LOVED it!

Molly going full on attack. Too late though, looks like she will be in hock to that greaseball for some time to come. Anyone thinking of doing something similar should be forced to watch that scene where the immigration attorney tells her she won't be rid of him for 10 years. The look on Molly's face!

More fake drama from Pao, Russ and Juan, but it is fun to hate him. I have to say, those calendar shots of Pao were smoking hot. Who brings their parents to a photo shoot like that? My midwestern sensibilities were just so not having it.

I'm confused about Nicole's latest trip to Morocco. They are talking about her living there for a year. Most countries have a 90 day stay limit on a tourist entry. If she had to get some kind of residence permit, why wasn't any of that shown? Makes me think there is more fakery here.

Annie and David, snore. Next week looks good though. Some accusations about Annie's sex worker past.

I experience whiplash with Pedro and Chantel. Back and forth between plausibility and seeming fake storyline. If it is real, why on earth is she putting up with it two years running? Its not like she would have any trouble finding another guy. I wonder if she really is in school and if that is their real apartment. She always looks expensively dressed and pampered. She had to have spent some serious money on those girls.

Jorge and Anfisa have a very toxic passive/aggressive thing going on. She is controlling by using her aggressive temper, and he tries to control her by manipulation, lies and withholding things that she wants. She isn't wrong about Jorge's issues, but she refuses to acknowledge her own role in the disfunction. She is right, they should go their separate ways.

@jonnieblack said:

Last night was a pile of steaming shiite and I LOVED it!

Molly going full on attack. Too late though, looks like she will be in hock to that greaseball for some time to come. Anyone thinking of doing something similar should be forced to watch that scene where the immigration attorney tells her she won't be rid of him for 10 years. The look on Molly's face!

I think she might be tied down for ten if he gets a green card. At the moment, I don't think he does. Here's what the law says: _An affidavit of support is legally enforceable; the sponsor's responsibility usually lasts until the family member or other individual either becomes a U.S. citizen, or can be credited with 40 quarters of work (usually 10 years).

Case in point, I don't think Daniel is responsible for Mo, because he now has a green card, as if she had the coins to support anyone.

More fake drama from Pao, Russ and Juan, but it is fun to hate him. I have to say, those calendar shots of Pao were smoking hot. Who brings their parents to a photo shoot like that? My midwestern sensibilities were just so not having it.

I was dozing in and out on that one.

I'm confused about Nicole's latest trip to Morocco. They are talking about her living there for a year. Most countries have a 90 day stay limit on a tourist entry. If she had to get some kind of residence permit, why wasn't any of that shown? Makes me think there is more fakery here.

In Morocco, they are called staying cards, and there is a process. It needs to be renewed after a year. They probably didn't want to show it, because it is boring. However, word on the street, Nicole is back in the states living in a trailer park.

Annie and David, snore. Next week looks good though. Some accusations about Annie's sex worker past.

I will watch will full attention.

I experience whiplash with Pedro and Chantel. Back and forth between plausibility and seeming fake storyline. If it is real, why on earth is she putting up with it two years running? Its not like she would have any trouble finding another guy. I wonder if she really is in school and if that is their real apartment. She always looks expensively dressed and pampered. She had to have spent some serious money on those girls.

Some people (like my sister) know how to dress to look as if they spent a lot of money, but let's not forget, she gets some money for the show. According to her IG, she will graduate from nursing school next year.

Jorge and Anfisa have a very toxic passive/aggressive thing going on. She is controlling by using her aggressive temper, and he tries to control her by manipulation, lies and withholding things that she wants. She isn't wrong about Jorge's issues, but she refuses to acknowledge her own role in the disfunction. She is right, they should go their separate ways.

I agree.

Someone how I see Jorge as being a battered spouse. He's too scared to unsettle the aggressive partner, so he will walk on egg shells, even if it means lying.

@Poetist said:

In Morocco, they are called staying cards, and there is a process. It needs to be renewed after a year. They probably didn't want to show it, because it is boring. However, word on the street, Nicole is back in the states living in a trailer park.

Thanks for the clarification.

Someone how I see Jorge as being a battered spouse. He's too scared to unsettle the aggressive partner, so he will walk on egg shells, even if it means lying.

I posted that on another site and got hammered for it. She does display abuser tactics, and he, abused responses.

@jonnieblack said:

@Poetist said:

In Morocco, they are called staying cards, and there is a process. It needs to be renewed after a year. They probably didn't want to show it, because it is boring. However, word on the street, Nicole is back in the states living in a trailer park.

Thanks for the clarification.

I see you're getting better with the quoting. smiley

Someone how I see Jorge as being a battered spouse. He's too scared to unsettle the aggressive partner, so he will walk on egg shells, even if it means lying.

I posted that on another site and got hammered for it. She does display abuser tactics, and he, abused responses.

Those other posters can kick rocks, because men can be battered just as well as women. We've seen Jorge hit on this show and verbally abused. We've seen him scramble to lie even though he will be caught, just to keep the peace for the moment. Plus, Anfisa does have a porno webcam. That wasn't a lie, but he took back what he said in order to continue in this vicious cycle. I agree with you that the only thing that Anfisa said that was correct was that they need to end their marriage.

I know Anfisa wants to end it, but she wants the green card more.

Does she need a green card to webcam, joy

Last night:

Too much Annie and David, and Pao and Russ.

Not enough Nicole and Molly. They are capable of so much more drama, why is the show not capitalizing on that? I will state again, anyone thinking of bringing home a 90 Day Fiance should be required to view that scene where Molly learns the consequences of taking a vacation fling too seriously.

I still don't get the Pedre/Chantel thing at all. If what we are seeing is real, why does she put up with it? She always looks so passive in those scenes.

OMG, our man Jorge may be the most delusional person on the show. He thinks money would solve everything, and his plan is to win the lottery? Jesus f---.

@jonnieblack said:

Last night:

Too much Annie and David, and Pao and Russ.

Not enough Nicole and Molly. They are capable of so much more drama, why is the show not capitalizing on that? I will state again, anyone thinking of bringing home a 90 Day Fiance should be required to view that scene where Molly learns the consequences of taking a vacation fling too seriously.

I still don't get the Pedre/Chantel thing at all. If what we are seeing is real, why does she put up with it? She always looks so passive in those scenes.

OMG, our man Jorge may be the most delusional person on the show. He thinks money would solve everything, and his plan is to win the lottery? Jesus f---.

Stupid DVdr or Charter, whichever. I'll have to post later.

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