Don't bother with it anymore, it's crystal clear that it will not be adjusted and they firmly cling to their rules ... the fingers are stiff now I guess 😁

It looks like the TMDB is not designed for the real world. IMDB, TVDB & official website all show 12/13 episodes.

I was gonna report this one too, but it looks like the decision on whether each segment is an episode has been decided. I agree that splitting them makes things confusing because it causes the episode count to differ from what's listed on pretty much every other site, but I can see the decision behind it - seems like it would apply to (possibly based on) the older cartoon format (like old bugs & daffy for example) where multiple segments were subsequently split to air as individual shorts and/or reshuffled to make new shows. It'd be nice if there was a way to track both, such that each segment was like season 1 episode 1 segment 2, for example, that way if they did end up split up in the future, but it's probably more of a pain to add an additional data field to the global database just to track segments for what's likely a relatively small number of entries that would actually use it.

That said, for all the people using trakt (or apps based on it), it appears that they're working on implementing such a change (if/when the apps are updating to support the change is another story). The Tomo-chan entry on their site (https://trakt.tv/shows/tomo-chan-is-a-girl/seasons/all) now lists each segment individually and are numbered with both episode and segment numbers in the "season x segment (episode)" format as shown below. I guess for the sake of consistency, we need to start reporting any segmented episodes that aren't split to tmdb so they can be changed, and then provide the new split details to trakt so they can then update both fields in their db accordingly. Would be easier if tmdb tracked both so linked db's like trakt would inherit the 'corrected' info, but it looks like manual reporting is the only choice (for now at least).

From Trakt 1x01 (1) I Want to Be Seen as a Girl!, 1x02 (1) A Terrifying Challenge, 1x03 (2) Tomo's Skirt, 1x04 (2) The School Idol, etc.

@computerdave said:

I was gonna report this one too, but it looks like the decision on whether each segment is an episode has been decided. I agree that splitting them makes things confusing because it causes the episode count to differ from what's listed on pretty much every other site, but I can see the decision behind it - seems like it would apply to (possibly based on) the older cartoon format (like old bugs & daffy for example) where multiple segments were subsequently split to air as individual shorts and/or reshuffled to make new shows. It'd be nice if there was a way to track both, such that each segment was like season 1 episode 1 segment 2, for example, that way if they did end up split up in the future, but it's probably more of a pain to add an additional data field to the global database just to track segments for what's likely a relatively small number of entries that would actually use it.

That said, for all the people using trakt (or apps based on it), it appears that they're working on implementing such a change (if/when the apps are updating to support the change is another story). The Tomo-chan entry on their site (https://trakt.tv/shows/tomo-chan-is-a-girl/seasons/all) now lists each segment individually and are numbered with both episode and segment numbers in the "season x segment (episode)" format as shown below. I guess for the sake of consistency, we need to start reporting any segmented episodes that aren't split to tmdb so they can be changed, and then provide the new split details to trakt so they can then update both fields in their db accordingly. Would be easier if tmdb tracked both so linked db's like trakt would inherit the 'corrected' info, but it looks like manual reporting is the only choice (for now at least).

From Trakt 1x01 (1) I Want to Be Seen as a Girl!, 1x02 (1) A Terrifying Challenge, 1x03 (2) Tomo's Skirt, 1x04 (2) The School Idol, etc.

That doesn't solve the problem that the statistics count the segments of the episodes as independent episodes, thus increasing their number and giving incorrect statistics about the total number of episodes watched.

Mmm... I do think as a database, having the option to record segments is a good idea. But that cannot be mixed with normal episodes.

• Episodes: as in streaming websites -> one video (S1E1, S1E100, etc...)
• Segments: one story inside an episode (i.e., 'A Part' = usually the first half of an anime episode before the commercial)

As I said before too, Tomo-chan's case is clearly segments confused with episodes.

I personally think a database should keep clear and constant data in order for it to be trustful data. Having segments might help this.

That can be the future feature for TMDb.

I see a lot of people reported about this issue. I'm serching for guidelines for creating season in TMDB but I'm not finding it. I'm actually confused why this decision was made as the oficial media don't represent this way making TMDB inacurate. The argument for not representing any episode segment as unique episode is that this inacuracy of TMDB creates confusion over users that are using it to follow the series. This extra burocracy is unecessary and easely avoidable by just respecting oficial media. This also turns scrapping it using TMDB API a real nightmare as oficial media is available only as unique episodes and not by each segment.

This issue must be taken to TMDB board discussions as it only creates problems, buracracy and extra work for contributors and moderators.

@tamodolo said:

I see a lot of people reported about this issue. I'm serching for guidelines for creating season in TMDB but I'm not finding it. I'm actually confused why this decision was made as the oficial media don't represent this way making TMDB inacurate. The argument for not representing any episode segment as unique episode is that this inacuracy of TMDB creates confusion over users that are using it to follow the series. This extra burocracy is unecessary and easely avoidable by just respecting oficial media. This also turns scrapping it using TMDB API a real nightmare as oficial media is available only as unique episodes and not by each segment.

This issue must be taken to TMDB board discussions as it only creates problems, buracracy and extra work for contributors and moderators.

Agreed.

TMDB was supposed to be the replacement for TVDB, not act just like them.

@raze464 said:

@Sonply said:

Item: Season 1

Language: en-US

Type of Problem: Incorrect_content

Extra Details: Episode one isn't divided into 2 parts. While they are segments, both are listed as 1 episode on the oficial website: https://tomo-chan.jp/story/

According to the anime guidelines it should be only one episode:" While the episode are composed of multiple segments, they are listed as regular episodes on the official website."

The sentence you quote refers to Aho-Girl, which has segments but each episode has a single title and description on the official website.

This one would be similar to the Shin-chan example. Like Shin-chan, Tomo-Chan Is a Girl! appears to be using the "Segment 1 / Segment 2" format since the website has 『女の子に見られたい！』『戦慄の挑戦状』as the title, with『女の子に見られたい！』being the title of the first segment and 『戦慄の挑戦状』being the title of the second segment. Where they differ is the episode description; there doesn't seem to be separate overviews for the segments.

I've never watched or edited an anime with segments so I was going by the examples given in the Contribution Bible and the Shin-chan one seemed the most accurate. I have asked internally for a second opinion.

what hell

Struggling to see how this one is different from say, Takagi-san, which also has the segment / segment / segment naming scheme for episodes, but the episodes are correctly displayed there while incorrectly displayed here (https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/75865/season/1 for example). Another example where the episodes were correctly kept together instead of intentionally creating confusion is Nagatoro S1: https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/105556/season/1

It would be helpful if this rule would actually be applied consistently if it's going to be applied at all

Edit: A few more examples where the rule wasn't applied this way (and episodes are correctly listed):

• https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/45967-b-gata-h-kei-yamada-s-first-time
• https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/80539-asobi-asobase/season/1
• https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/83121/season/2 (and the other seasons of course)

Feel free to file a content report on the corresponding series page.

@superboy97 said:

Feel free to file a content report on the corresponding series page.

Done. While I was hoping to point out that maybe this one was wrong and not the others, at least maybe it can be consistently confusing this way so that people get used to expecting that:

• https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/83121/discuss/64458afc651fcf06179c472f
• https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/80539-asobi-asobase/discuss/644587b6058224363b328617
• https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/105556/discuss/6445850932489b0533bc5f09
• https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/75865/discuss/644582f20f365502fbf6e353

I've read this topic and the TMDB bible, why are the mods ignoring their own exception to the segment rule? On the anime's official site, each episode has both segment parts listed.

https://tomo-chan.jp/story/?id=01

This issue needs more than single mod's input since we're clearly not moving in any direction.

Giving you guys an update: the segments have been merged. Travis, the admin, ultimately decided during an internal discussion about X-Men '97 that the segments shouldn't be split since that's not how they were originally released.