For most of us, this is more of a Trakt issue. They switched to using a new data source that doesn’t have specific policies to handle anime. So from tmdb perspective we just show up and say they are broken. It would be nice to have that convo to add rules and policies but as it stands right now that isn’t the case. Trakt changed and now we have to deal with it.

TMDB has a specific policies to handle anime, much more than TVDB ever did. There is even an anime contribuition bible. People just disagree with it.

@Sonply said:

TMDB has a specific policies to handle anime, much more than TVDB ever did. There is even an anime contribuition bible. People just disagree with it.

Ah didn’t know that. Guess I have some reading up to do.

https://www.themoviedb.org/bible/tv/59f743289251416e71000037#5b71c6b4c3a3684161000001

I forgot to add the link, so here it is.

@Sonply said:

https://www.themoviedb.org/bible/tv/59f743289251416e71000037#5b71c6b4c3a3684161000001

I forgot to add the link, so here it is.

The bible says:

"An example of anime series with segment that shouldn't be split is Aho-Girl. While the episode are composed of multiple segments, they are listed as regular episodes on the official website. Each episode has a single title and description. "

So Aho-Girl is supposed to be listed with the offical episodes instead of the single segments, because the website lists the episodes.. right? Just like the official website for Tomo-chan. Episodes are listed, not segments. So splitting the episodes into segments as single entries is wrong, isn't it?

Tomo-chan may have some kind of chapter-titles in between each segment, but it's still one episode: one opening, one ending, listed as a single episode on the official website and only broadcasted as a single episode and not each "segment" on their own.

Let's support this proposal from a user: https://www.themoviedb.org/talk/63d45db1cb5c8e00a59e909f

I think it could be a win-win solution, of course, as long as there is a willingness on the part of those who run the site.

The rules are clearly wrong, as evidenced by the negative reactions to the decisions to split the episodes of this anime and Urusei Yatsura.

So splitting the episodes into segments as single entries is wrong, isn't it?

That's what I thought too, but since there is only the description for the first half of the episode in the website, they did not agree with me.

Also, I don't think this rule is correct and I do believe this particular rule needs to be used only in specific cases, but I have no say in this.

@Sonply said:

So splitting the episodes into segments as single entries is wrong, isn't it?

That's what I thought too, but since there is only the description for the first half of the episode in the website, they did not agree with me.

Also, I don't think this rule is correct and I do believe this particular rule needs to be used only in specific cases, but I have no say in this.

It's good to see someone from Trakt taking a stand on this issue, whether TMDB eventually fixes it or not, seeing you here giving your opinion and agreeing with users shows how good Trakt support is.

I hope TMDB solves this problem. Then there would be no need to look for alternatives to Trakt.

@Pheromir said:

@Sonply said:

https://www.themoviedb.org/bible/tv/59f743289251416e71000037#5b71c6b4c3a3684161000001

I forgot to add the link, so here it is.

The bible says:

"An example of anime series with segment that shouldn't be split is Aho-Girl. While the episode are composed of multiple segments, they are listed as regular episodes on the official website. Each episode has a single title and description. "

So Aho-Girl is supposed to be listed with the offical episodes instead of the single segments, because the website lists the episodes.. right? Just like the official website for Tomo-chan. Episodes are listed, not segments. So splitting the episodes into segments as single entries is wrong, isn't it?

Tomo-chan may have some kind of chapter-titles in between each segment, but it's still one episode: one opening, one ending, listed as a single episode on the official website and only broadcasted as a single episode and not each "segment" on their own.

Aho-Girl should not be listed based on the segments because the episodes of this anime have one single title which is not based on the segments. This is not the case with Tomo-Chan where the episodes titles are composed with the segment names.

@TanukiAI said:

@superboy97 said:

@Pheromir said:

@Sonply said:

https://www.themoviedb.org/bible/tv/59f743289251416e71000037#5b71c6b4c3a3684161000001

I forgot to add the link, so here it is.

The bible says:

"An example of anime series with segment that shouldn't be split is Aho-Girl. While the episode are composed of multiple segments, they are listed as regular episodes on the official website. Each episode has a single title and description. "

So Aho-Girl is supposed to be listed with the offical episodes instead of the single segments, because the website lists the episodes.. right? Just like the official website for Tomo-chan. Episodes are listed, not segments. So splitting the episodes into segments as single entries is wrong, isn't it?

Tomo-chan may have some kind of chapter-titles in between each segment, but it's still one episode: one opening, one ending, listed as a single episode on the official website and only broadcasted as a single episode and not each "segment" on their own.

Aho-Girl should not be listed based on the segments because the episodes of this anime have one single title which is not based on the segments. This is not the case with Tomo-Chan where the episodes titles are composed with the segment names.

Like I said, You are Retarded.

Chill out, dude. I have been strongly critical of the decision on this rule as well, but let's not escalate to personal attacks.

@TanukiAI said:

@andresabad said: Chill out, dude. I have been strongly critical of the decision on this rule as well, but let's not escalate to personal attacks.

Well, as you can see, you can't argue with someone like that

Well, you don't 'win' arguments that way either, so I guess you are in a lose lose here.

@underoath23 said:

For most of us, this is more of a Trakt issue. They switched to using a new data source that doesn’t have specific policies to handle anime. So from tmdb perspective we just show up and say they are broken. It would be nice to have that convo to add rules and policies but as it stands right now that isn’t the case. Trakt changed and now we have to deal with it.

Correct guess most complains come from Trakt users. In fact Trakt used to use thetvdb for anime and tv shows, but made me he switch to tmdb some ago. Maybe we should actually over at Trakt about this, so make the switch back to thetvdb, as there’s seems to be no room to maneuver on tmdb about series with segments, although the official site clearly states they are one episode.

Maybe I can go through my watch history and list other series where episodes contain segments and report them here … but then again that might not be a good idea 😉

@Sonply said:

TMDB has a specific policies to handle anime, much more than TVDB ever did. There is even an anime contribuition bible. People just disagree with it.

Because they're doing it different than anyone else 🤷🏻‍♂️ and it's wrong! Wrong airdates, segments...

@StefaanD Trakt made it clear though, no tvdb. So, the only way is to look for alternatives.

It's been weeks and there is yet to be a positive change from the people in charge. Why are you still ignoring community's uproar against this issue? As I see there are two positive actions you can take.

First one is changing your "bible" so shows like this wouldn't get chopped into segments. This one is easy to implement, but it's like a patch-work. Not long-lasting and sturdy enough, but it'll do the job for now.

Second option is to changing your data structure so segments are not considered as episodes, but rather a sub-data underneath the episode, that way no tracking site that uses your API would show 30 episodes in a 12 episodes anime with segments. This second option is what you really should do, it'll take some time to code and implement it into your database, but it'll be a good change for the future.

How has there been no change to the number of episodes in the past two weeks? The official website clearly states that the two segments each form a single episode, and the episode descriptions are for both segments as well.