I HATE sheer with a passion. That said, it was a good runway. Only 2 looks I'd call bad. I loved the top 2. I think I'd have given Nancy the win but Sergio's was really good with more complex construction.

I did not think Marquis should have been top. I think Geoffrey or Brittany were better.

The bottom two were both disasters. I knew they would not send Victoria home so it was bye bye Chelsea.

You know how I feel about Victoria. Trying to make the same dress yet again. I think she was using language barrier as a transparent excuse. Doesn't know what sheer means? Yeah, right.

Chelsea was done dirty by Christian. The dress she started with, while not great, probably would have been safe. Just the latest victim of his bad advice.

@Poetist said:

Victoria was another Grade A spoiled B today. I loved the guest judge . She knew nothing about Victoria and immediately called her out on her lack of humility. Victoria deserved to go home for her attitude alone and the fact that her dress had nothing sheer.

Dayoung needs to have a complete physical with multiple blood tests. Nobody passes out, falls out, etc.. as often as she does unless there is a medical cause. I'm glad she chose to remove herself from the competition. Her health needs addressing.

Something is seriously wrong with Dae.

@jonnieblack said:

@Poetist said:

Devon is too smug and thinks too highly of his work, but to me, it always falls short. To me, his latest design needed something added to the top, though I love the skirt.

https://www.bravotv.com/sites/bravo/files/styles/blog-post-embedded--computer/public/2019-12/project-runway-1808-final-outfit-15.jpg?itok=IjWMTfvO

Agree 100 percent. This could have been top 3 with a better top.

If I'm not mistaken, didn't Christian talked him out of adding a jacket? Now, a regualar jacket might have ruined the look, but I don't think it would have been so bad if it were a bolero jacket.

I hate it when they bring ba k eliminated designers to replace someone who drops out. If that creates a problem with episodes and eliminates there are many ways to deal with that.

@jonnieblack said:

You know how I feel about Victoria. Trying to make the same dress yet again. I think she was using language barrier as a transparent excuse. Doesn't know what sheer means? Yeah, right.

Yep! In one scene, she seems really pissed off and blames it on having to use sheer fabrics.

Chelsea was done dirty by Christian. The dress she started with, while not great, probably would have been safe. Just the latest victim of his bad advice.

That was the same thing I was thinking!

@jonnieblack said:

I hate it when they bring ba k eliminated designers to replace someone who drops out. If that creates a problem with episodes and eliminates there are many ways to deal with that.

In this case, I don't mind it, because a person got sick. If they made this a non-elemination round, I doubt the contestant would have given it their all.

@Poetist said:

I didn't know they had the models behind the screen, and I felt bad for the heavy set model to be selected last.

The heavier models usually get picked last. It's uncomfortable to watch.

@Poetist said:

@jonnieblack said:

@Poetist said:

Devon is too smug and thinks too highly of his work, but to me, it always falls short. To me, his latest design needed something added to the top, though I love the skirt.

https://www.bravotv.com/sites/bravo/files/styles/blog-post-embedded--computer/public/2019-12/project-runway-1808-final-outfit-15.jpg?itok=IjWMTfvO

Agree 100 percent. This could have been top 3 with a better top.

If I'm not mistaken, didn't Christian talked him out of adding a jacket? Now, a regualar jacket might have ruined the look, but I don't think it would have been so bad if it were a bolero jacket.

Can't remember C's consult with Delvin.

Sheers! Oh what fun. We use sheers quite a bit in our work; but it is almost exclusively to shade or deepen colors in other fabrics. We do have a neat trick we do with lame and organza to look like stained glass in fabric.

We think Dayoung made the correct decision to leave. She has to have some underlying condition, though we suppose she could be one of those folks we really cannot handle stress. Either way, this was what? The third time she's needed medical intervention? We are sad, though, because we like her and we like her looks.

On the top looks, Nancy and Sergio definitely belonged there. We didn't really like Marquise's look. Delvin's had possibilities, but it appeared incomplete to us (ignoring for the moment the question of a jacket.) We are terribly torn about the final results. Sergio's look, we believe, was easily the best thing on the runway. But that guy is so horribly arrogant and conceited. Most designers usually say they're happy the judges saw what they were going for or this wins shows I'm a contender or something. But for Sergio its I'm obviously the best and this will show why I should win.

For the middle looks, we liked Brittany's top, but those shorts just didn't do it for us. We could see it with some nice palazzo pants or something similar.

As for the bottom looks: we liked Geoffrey's look, but since we are getting down to so few designers even good looks are going to get into the bottom. Chelsea's was unfortunate. We think there was something there that could have been really nice but she just didn't bring it together. When she went to those ring sleeves we knew she was in trouble. We've seen lots of people try to use that concept and it never works out well because there is no support from one ring to the other.

And then there is Victoria. We are really getting tired of her. Sergio is arrogant, but she is just a drama queen.

We can accept she might not of understood what the word "sheer" meant. English isn't her first language and sheer isn't a common word. But Karli was deliberately wearing a design done in sheers to indicate what was wanted. And she could have asked Christian, or any of the associates at Mood for that matter, to show her sheers.

She again defaulted to her standard strappy, asymmetric high/low look. Christian calls her on it and she complains "its a completely different dress." No, Victoria, it just a variation of what you've done four or five times now. Do something else. So she hems and she haws and she complains and then declares she's quitting because that's better than having the judges eliminating her. Does she know what a competition is? And then she comes back and pulls something together in two and a half hours and its still an asymmetric high/low. (We'll give her that there weren't any straps.) and it certainly didn't look like there was any sheer in it.

We suppose they want her for the drama. We certainly don't think its because of talent, because executing one basic look, no matter how skilled you can do it, doesn't indicate talent to us. We would have loved to see her go.

Another great challenge. I loved the reinvention of the tux, and we got such a range of looks from great to awful.

I would go with Geoffrey for the win. Yes a bolo tie would have improved it but I think everything else about it was right on point.

Sergio's was beautiful but yes, the Celine Dion throwback. I don't believe for a second that he wasn't aware of it. I love that they called him out on his lame back story. The 50's as an ideal for a group that included almost no straight white males?

Speaking of throwbacks, how did they not call out Marquise for the Siriano tux redux? Most of the compliments were for his model, who was popping.

Shocker, I wasn't a fan of Victoria's either. Yet another version of her signature silhouette, with what looked like messy seaming. They called Nancy out for the same thing.

I'm really starting to wonder if Delvin isn't more of a tailor than a designer. I'm still waiting to see this great talent that he thinks he has.

Oh poor Brittany, this challenge really got away from her. Those shorts, my eyes are hurting. She was the right elimination but I am glad that she was saved. She could still win this thing.

@jonnieblack said:

Another great challenge. I loved the reinvention of the tux, and we got such a range of looks from great to awful.

I wasn't too excited about it when it was announced, but it turned out great.

I would go with Geoffrey for the win. Yes a bolo tie would have improved it but I think everything else about it was right on point.

Geoffrey was my least favorite out of the top three, and he was a very distant top third out of the group.

Sergio's was beautiful but yes, the Celine Dion throwback. I don't believe for a second that he wasn't aware of it.

Actually, I didn't like Celine's look. I thought it looked sloppy on her, and I didn't know what the fuss was all about. With that said, I thought Sergio's look was a great improvement over it.

I love that they called him out on his lame back story. The 50's as an ideal for a group that included almost no straight white males?

Elaine made him look like a fool.

Speaking of throwbacks, how did they not call out Marquise for the Siriano tux redux? Most of the compliments were for his model, who was popping.

Marquise and Sergio were my favorites, and I don't see how Marquise ripped off Christian.

Shocker, I wasn't a fan of Victoria's either. Yet another version of her signature silhouette, with what looked like messy seaming. They called Nancy out for the same thing.

Thank you! I guess they get tired of talking to Victoria, but there was no way she should have been in the top. Yes, her look was hot, but she is purely making the same thing.

I'm really starting to wonder if Delvin isn't more of a tailor than a designer. I'm still waiting to see this great talent that he thinks he has.

Along with no great designs, he seems to have no eye for even picking out fabrics. My goodness. He's so smug, and he can't even back up his smack. Does this makes Delvin the only designer not to win a challenge, or is Nancy in the no-challenge-win club too?

Oh poor Brittany, this challenge really got away from her. Those shorts, my eyes are hurting. She was the right elimination but I am glad that she was saved. She could still win this thing.

I knew she was going to be saved.

Did Delvin's peacock coat win? That and the arty pantsuit are his only standout looks. I was screaming WHY in my head when he chose that green wool at Mood.

I agree that Sergio's backward tux was better than Celine's. I think Marquise did the same thing, jacket with voluminous bottom, inspired by Christian and they didn't call him out like they did Sergio.

@jonnieblack said:

Did Delvin's peacock coat win? That and the arty pantsuit are his only standout looks. I was screaming WHY in my head when he chose that green wool at Mood.

I can't remember any win that Delvin won.

I think Marquise did the same thing, jacket with voluminous bottom, inspired by Christian and they didn't call him out like they did Sergio.

Christian made a floor-length a-line skirt.

https://cdn1.thr.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/landscape_928x523/2019/02/gettyimages-1131875246-h_2019.jpg

Marquise made an asymmetrical skirt over pants.

https://www.bravotv.com/sites/bravo/files/styles/blog-post-embedded--computer/public/2019-12/project-runway-1809-final-outfit-13.jpg?itok=C4EDQEEY

This is a beautiful take on the tux.

https://www.modaoperandi.com/assets/images/products/761928/375848/b/large_christian-siriano-blue-tuxedo-tulle-gown.jpg?_v=1560813999

@jonnieblack said:

Did Delvin's peacock coat win? That and the arty pantsuit are his only standout looks. I was screaming WHY in my head when he chose that green wool at Mood.

Okay, curiosity got me. Devlin didn't win, but should have. Here is his look. I don't even think it was a top look, though. Too bad.

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/nup-187418-2112-jpg-1575664218.jpg?resize=640:*

In that episode, Brit won.

https://www.elle.com/culture/movies-tv/a30093922/project-runway-season-17-episode-13-recap-blast-off/