@LadyGigi said:

@movie_nazi said:

She went from being this shy little mouse letting her sloppy husband beat the shit outta her to giving kids advice how to sneak through the woods like a green beret. All the while holding the rifle as awkwardly as you would expect a hippie would. Someone please show this actress how to handle a weapon. You surely can't pretend you are Rambo if you can't act like you know how to hold a rifle.

My point is this character is badly written. I think it is a waste of screen time for a show that suffers horribly from terrible pacing. Just either get rid of her or throw her in the mix with the rest of the crowd. She surely doesn't need her own spin off.

I am. I have no idea what Carol's major problem is. Hopefully she will be killed off.

She's just a whinner now and nobody is trying to hear all that whinning she does about not being a murderer anymore. You can't just murder a whole bunch of people and then quit cold turkey. And you cannot survive alone or without having to kill something. Carol is trying to adopt Morgan's principles and not doing well at all.

Then who should be blamed for her current condition? You know the name.. It is Morgan who needs to be gone... He infected her with his ideals about not killing humans in this already messed up world of TWD. It is because of him Ezekiel didn't agreed to help Rick in defeating the saviors.... So the sooner he goes the better... And i am sure the minute Carol learns about what Negan did to the people she cares for, she will come back to her default action mode....

@ClarkCJ925 said:

@LadyGigi said:

@movie_nazi said:

She went from being this shy little mouse letting her sloppy husband beat the shit outta her to giving kids advice how to sneak through the woods like a green beret. All the while holding the rifle as awkwardly as you would expect a hippie would. Someone please show this actress how to handle a weapon. You surely can't pretend you are Rambo if you can't act like you know how to hold a rifle.

My point is this character is badly written. I think it is a waste of screen time for a show that suffers horribly from terrible pacing. Just either get rid of her or throw her in the mix with the rest of the crowd. She surely doesn't need her own spin off.

I am. I have no idea what Carol's major problem is. Hopefully she will be killed off.

She's just a whinner now and nobody is trying to hear all that whinning she does about not being a murderer anymore. You can't just murder a whole bunch of people and then quit cold turkey. And you cannot survive alone or without having to kill something. Carol is trying to adopt Morgan's principles and not doing well at all.

Then who should be blamed for her current condition? You know the name.. It is Morgan who needs to be gone... He infected her with his ideals about not killing humans in this already messed up world of TWD. It is because of him Ezekiel didn't agreed to help Rick in defeating the saviors.... So the sooner he goes the better... And i am sure the minute Carol learns about what Negan did to the people she cares for, she will come back to her default action mode....

Infected is inaccurate. Morgan still contributes to society. Carol opt-out. Also Carol is an adult who is capable of making her own decisions. That said, of there was anything influencing Carol, it was her ex-boyfriend and Maggie's pregnancy that changed her perspective about her life. Morgan had very little to do with it.

@NorthernLad said:

No, I like Carol. But they need to write her out of this loner/funk she is in. It's ridiculous. She's a badass and they need to just write her as one and stop with the dreary loner stuff.

I agree. I like Carol best when she's a badass.

But I'm hoping she needed to take some time to reflect, so she can big an even bigger badass. She was going to burn out if she continued the way she was.

@Beetweenboards

I agree. I like Carol best when she's a badass.

But I'm hoping she needed to take some time to reflect, so she can big an even bigger badass. She was going to burn out if she continued the way she was.

Finally! Someone talking some sense about Carol. Sometimes you gotta take a break to regroup and get your sh*it together. I think anyone should be able to relate to that.

@Nubyan said:

@Beetweenboards

I agree. I like Carol best when she's a badass.

But I'm hoping she needed to take some time to reflect, so she can big an even bigger badass. She was going to burn out if she continued the way she was.

Finally! Someone talking some sense about Carol. Sometimes you gotta take a break to regroup and get your sh*it together. I think anyone should be able to relate to that.

Exactly! She was too shut off and guarded before. I think that she's going to be just as tough as before but more balanced.

@MassHypnosis said:

I like Carol, she is badly written as many of twd tv characters because of the filler episodes but i don't have a huge problem , i mostly want AMC to change the writers and stop going cheap because to me it have started to look like a sy-fy series.

So you noticed too.

I'm at a loss at all the complaints about Carol and filler episodes and needing new writers. Really? Someone even mentioned Carol as being a whiner. I've never heard her whining...ever. Except for when she was playing it up as helpless Carol. The only whining seems to be from some viewers wanting to write their own TWD. I wish you would and then let us all know how that turns out. SMH.

@Nubyan said:

I'm at a loss at all the complaints about Carol and filler episodes and needing new writers. Really? Someone even mentioned Carol as being a whiner. I've never heard her whining...ever. Except for when she was playing it up as helpless Carol. The only whining seems to be from some viewers wanting to write their own TWD. I wish you would and then let us all know how that turns out. SMH.

Not everyone likes Carol. Get over it.

And there are many that do. So you get over it.

@chrisjdel said:

Fake Martha Stewart Carol would be preferable to broken and defeated Carol. And what's wrong with her handling of rifles movie_nazi? They have firearms instructors on set you know; if anything, characters who supposedly never fired a gun before show a bit too much polish on this show, not the other way around.

Well, she ain't using them. Exhibit A) When she is sniping at Terminus. She held that rifle up so awkwardly it looked as though that was the first time she ever shot it in her life.

And I don't think any of the characters by now have "never fired a gun" before. If it's at the beginning before the Carolbo blossoming then OK, she never fired a gun. But after she is this supposed kill or be killed transformation and she holds it up like a little girl then it looks utterly ridiculous.

@movie_nazi said:

@chrisjdel said:

Fake Martha Stewart Carol would be preferable to broken and defeated Carol. And what's wrong with her handling of rifles movie_nazi? They have firearms instructors on set you know; if anything, characters who supposedly never fired a gun before show a bit too much polish on this show, not the other way around.

Well, she ain't using them. Exhibit A) When she is sniping at Terminus. She held that rifle up so awkwardly it looked as though that was the first time she ever shot it in her life.

And I don't think any of the characters by now have "never fired a gun" before. If it's at the beginning before the Carolbo blossoming then OK, she never fired a gun. But after she is this supposed kill or be killed transformation and she holds it up like a little girl then it looks utterly ridiculous.

Are you suggesting that Carol had sniping experience by the first ep of season 5, or whatever it was when the group escaped from Terminus? The awkward handling of the gun might have been on purpose. The most important thing, to me, is that she hit her target - the propane tank.

@Satch_the_man said:

Are you suggesting that Carol had sniping experience by the first ep of season 5, or whatever it was when the group escaped from Terminus? The awkward handling of the gun might have been on purpose. The most important thing, to me, is that she hit her target - the propane tank.

BS, she was training the kiddies at the prison how to properly stab a zombie. I'm pretty sure she had already blossomed to full-fledged Carolbo by the time she hits Terminus. The fact that she hit the propane tank only validates my point even more. HowTF are we expected to believe she can hit that target when she can't even hold the rifle up correctly? Face it, her acting sucks.

I can believe that she hit the damn target! And that she can hold a rifle. And that she can act!

@Nubyan said:

And there are many that do. So you get over it.

Did you see me write that I had a problem with Carol's fanbase? No you didn't. I'm only stating my opinion about Carol like the OP did.

Come back to reality please.

You're the one griping about why people shouldn't dislike Carol. You want us to give her a chance. For what? Carol is a fictional character. She's not a real person on trial for being a boring character. Lol

Ladygigi...

You get heated quickly, don't you? I like Carol, along with other fans. You don't. Hardly an issue to get bent over.