Discuss Henry Cavill

There’s a war between some very vocal JG fans and some very vocal ZS, HC and GG fans. There’s also a war between some very vocal lefties and some very vocal righties. I’m not an American. So, I don’t know much about American politics.

On the one hand, I think that lefties are democrats, liberal, secular and pro woke? On the other hand, I think that righties are republicans, conservatives, religious and anti woke? Apparently, JG is a lefty. The war between lefties and righties seem to have started or intensified after Trump lost the election.

Anyhow, In 2018, Disney fired JG because he tweeted really disgusting and seriously disturbing things. JG issued an apology [in July 2018].

  1. Many people who have followed my career know when I started, I viewed myself as a provacateur, making movies and telling jokes that were outrageous and taboo. As I have discussed publicly many times, as I’ve developed as a person, so has my work and humor.
  2. It’s not to say I’m better, but I am very, very different than I was a few years ago; today I try to root my work in love and connection and less in anger. My days saying something just because it’s shocking and trying to get a reaction are over.
  3. In the past, I have apologized for humor of mine that hurt people. I truly felt sorry and meant every word of my apologies.
  4. For the record, when I made these shocking jokes, I wasn’t living them out. I know this is a weird statement to make, and seems obvious, but, still here I am, saying it.
  5. Anyway, that’s the completely honest truth: I used to make a lot of offensive jokes. I don’t anymore. I don’t blame my past self for this, but I like myself more and feel like a more full human being and creator today. Love to you all.

JG apologized for the tweets. There’s nothing about pedo-themed parties and the many sex offenders he surrounds himself with.

Anyhow, the cast of GOTG asked Disney to rehire JG, because he apologized. The tweets were meant as a joke and JG regret tweeting them. Disney rehired JG, so he can finish the GOTG trilogy. GOTG3 will be released May 5th, 2023.

In the meanwhile, JG started working for WB. He made the film TSS, which was released in theaters and on HBOM on Aug 6, 2021. TSS has a 90% critics and a 82% audience score on RT. It had a $185 mil PB and grossed $55,817,425 domestic and $168,657,565 worldwide, according to BOM. Some blamed the pandemic and HBOM for the low numbers. HBOM, however, reported that TSS had the second-biggest opening weekend of all the films that premiered simultaneously on the streaming service and in theaters. HBOM did not provide further details or data.

JG also created and produced the HBOM series Peacemaker. He wrote all eight eps and directed five of them. Peacemaker has a 94% critics and a 89% audience score. HBOM did not provide details or data about views.

November 1st, JG and PS started as co-chairpersons and CEOs of DC Films, rebranded as "DC Studios", with control over films, animation and television projects based on characters from DC Comics. JG oversees the creative aspects and will be exclusive to WBD during his four year tenure, except for his prior commitments to Disney.

Anyhow, when JG’s tweet thig happened, there was no war between the lefties and righties. But now, there is. And the righties and some very vocal ZS, HC and GG fans are reposting all kinds of dirt about JG. I put them all together in the next post, so we can discus. So, be aware that some info might be new; therefore, it could be shocking. Pedophilia is an awful topic.

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@Cashmere said:

Secondly, fatter than before? That means… you think you’re fat? OK, that’s scary. 

Nah, I don’t think I’m fat. Maybe I need to get use to my athletic body.

I live on water, coffee and Cup-a-Soup for three/four days to lose two/three pounds to wear a skimpy bikini for a beach party. 

Cup-a-Soup. lol Old school crashing. Good times. It doesn’t get easier than that. It doesn’t work for me anymore, though. At least not the first week. My body won’t have much to process, so it will go into protection mode to protect itself from me. lol And when I crash, I want to lose weight in the first week. I don’t have time to waste.

But I don’t find the skinny muscleless look appealing anymore. I like the athletic look now. So I’m doing a “healthier” type of crash. I make my body work without giving it much calories. Must keep my muscles intact while staying very lean. So I’m actually eating more when I’m crashing. Sounds awesome, right? It’s not. Check this out. Day 1:

  • 06:00 – 07:00 – coffee + workout + 1 liter water
  • 07:00 – 95 kcal – Whey (20 gr) protein shake
  • 09:00 – multivitamin + cabbage/carrot soup
  • 11:15 – omelet (egg white/onion/bell pepper) & tomatoes with vinaigrette
  • 13:30 – cucumber/lettuce salad with vinaigrette & tuna
  • 15:45 – diet quark (use sweetener) & strawberry
  • 17:00 – 18:00 – coffee + workout + 1 liter water
  • 18:15 – broccoli/shrimp & zero pasta
  • 20:00 – cabbage/carrot soup
  • 21:00 – 91 kcal – Caseine (20 gr) protein shake
  • 21:00 – 06:00 sleep

Train as many muscles as possible. Make sure the amount of daily protein is at least 0.8 x your body weight. Don’t eat the same things every day and don’t surpass 700 kcal a day.

So try to keep that up for ten days. You can lose 3 to 4 kg. Doesn’t seem like much, right? Let’s convert it to pounds. You can lose 6.6 to 8.8 pounds. But trust me, you’ll be annoyed after two days. You’re constantly busy with food and constantly eating. It’s nauseating. On a normal day, I never skip my two protein shakes and dinner. I may skip breakfast or lunch. I’ll stay with my parents when I’m crashing, so my mom can prepare all the food. She counts the kcal, weight it, cook it. All I have to do is eat it and I’m still annoyed. lol

Maybe we should forget old school and healthy crashing and do it the celeb way – smoke marijuana, sniff cocaine or swallow anti-obesity pills. lol Marijuana stinks and anti-obesity pills sound scary. So cocaine it is. Just can’t afford that right now. After we get our MSc, we’ll do it the cocaine way. lol Cocaine chicks. That doesn’t have the same funny ring to it that cocaine bear has. rofl

Are camouflage cargo pants the new hotpants?

Cyber stalking is a crime.

@HCFan said:

I’ll sit in my balcony and throw an expensive bra at Stefan.

Stefan can start selling bras, if women keep throwing bras at him. lol

PS I’m kidding about cocaine. Don’t lose any sleep thinking I’ll use drugs, because I think I’m fat. rofl

@AnnaB said:

Cocaine chicks. That doesn’t have the same funny ring to it that cocaine bear has.

Sorry, but cocaine chicks made me laughing.

@Cashmere said:

It doesn’t look… well… hellish.

How does hellish look?

Anyhow, I’m going to HellFest next year. I have like a year to find a T with Hail Satan or Demons Rule on it. WT probably won’t be there again. So Metallica or Iron Maiden better be there to give me a headache.

Our health might actually… benefit from a very… fat… unhealthy burger.

Easy there, short stuff. Save the burgers for winter. Nobody eats in the summer. You take pics of food and eat them with your eyes. Or you take a selfie with a plate of food, eat two spoon, give the rest to the pet. That’s how you do it in the summer. You can stuff your face in the winter. Nobody cares you’re fat. You’ll be wearing winter coats with moon boots or tall leather boots, anyway.

Are camouflage cargo pants the new hotpants?

Camouflage cargo pants means Ann is or was a soldier? Geeks don’t know you can buy them in stores and online?

@HCFan said:

I’ll sit in my balcony and throw an expensive bra at Stefan.

What’s the point? What’s he supposed to do with it? I'll throw my bra at a male performer if I know he’ll do something with it.

  1. He’ll wear it. I like to help a brother out.
  2. He’ll sniff it. I want him to know what sweet fabric softener I use.
  3. He collects bra. Fun that a celeb has my bra is a collectible or souvenir.

@AnnaB said:

I may skip breakfast or lunch.

I consider my protein shake breakfast. I can't eat after drinking it.

@Sue-Yin said:

Anyhow, I’m going to HellFest next year.

I may go too. My coolness can use a boost. I want to say I went to HellFest.

I have like a year to find a T with Hail Satan or Demons Rule on it.

Or Doomsday is nigh. Or Dooms Angel

Camouflage cargo pants means Ann is or was a soldier? Geeks don’t know you can buy them in stores and online?

Not the camouflage pants. They way she wrote the time in the diet plan. In the US, civilians use A.M. and P.M. The military use 13:00 to 24:00 hours. The sergeant would yell: _OK ladies, I’ll see your sorry @sses at O-6-hundred hours (6 A.M.) or at 18-hundred hours (6 P.M.). I bet there isn’t a woman in sight.

  1. He’ll wear it. I like to help a brother out.

rofl

  1. He collects bra. Fun that a celeb has my bra is a collectible or souvenir.

Drake collects bras thrown at him.

Outlook: Drake Shares Picture Of Bras Thrown At Him At Gigs
Drake took to Instagram on Wednesday and shared a picture featuring over 1000 colourful bras. He is seen standing in front of them as they are kept on the ground while the ‘God’s plan’ hitmaker poses in front of it and flashes a huge smile. He captioned the image: “Remember when we both forgot who the f*ck I was in unison… That wavelength was def a foolish one.”
Last month, Drake made a request to the fans when his son, Adonis Graham, attended his concert for the first time. He had said: “Y’all keep your bras on.”
On the Montreal stop of the tour in July, Drake quipped that he felt like he was giving a bad show because nobody in the audience was throwing their bras on stage.

@Sue-Yin said:

So Metallica or Iron Maiden better be there to give me a headache.

Be careful with heavy metal. My bf and brothers say it’s mostly men.

Nobody eats in the summer. You take pics of food and eat them with your eyes. Or you take a selfie with a plate of food, eat two spoon, give the rest to the pet. That’s how you do it in the summer.

rofl

@HCFan said:

Not the camouflage pants. They way she wrote the time in the diet plan.

You should have let them keep thinking I’m a soldier. lol

Drake took to Instagram on Wednesday and shared a picture featuring over 1000 colourful bras.

What else is in that room? Who put the bras so neatly on the floor?

@HCFan said:

Drake collects bras thrown at him.

I’ll throw a cheap one at him next time.

@AnnaB said:

Be careful with heavy metal. My bf and brothers say it’s mostly men.

Just kidding, young lady. I’ll go if something like WT or Evanescence is performing.

Who put the bras so neatly on the floor?

Yeah, who did that? The patience. laughing

@AnnaB said:

So try to keep that up for ten days. You can lose 3 to 4 kg. Doesn’t seem like much, right? Let’s convert it to pounds. You can lose 6.6 to 8.8 pounds. But trust me, you’ll be annoyed after two days. You’re constantly busy with food and constantly eating. It’s nauseating.

Sometimes a want to lose three… four pounds. I don’t have to do it ten days. I love to eat, but I don’t like to work out twice.

@Sue-Yin said:

How does hellish look?

Many bands don’t decorate the stage. So… that could be considered hellish. stuck_out_tongue

Easy there, short stuff.

Short stuff? Many women don’t even reach 170 cm. rolling_eyes

Nobody eats in the summer. You take pics of food and eat them with your eyes. Or you take a selfie with a plate of food, eat two spoon, give the rest to the pet. That’s how you do it in the summer.

That should be an option. I’d save a lot of money.

@HCFan said:

Last month, Drake made a request to the fans when his son, Adonis Graham, attended his concert for the first time. He had said: “Y’all keep your bras on.”

Wait… they take off their bra and throw it? I’d put an extra bra in my bag for that.

Another disgusting story for this disgusting thread. rolling_eyes

Metro

Russell Brand ‘forced his penis down 16-year-old’s throat’ as multiple women accuse him of rape, sexual assault and emotional abuse

Russell Brand has been accused of rape, sexual assault and emotional abuse by four women, including one who claimed she was 16 years old at the time.

This comes after the comedian and actor, 48, released a video denying ‘very serious allegations’ that were set to be revealed.

The reports have now come to light in an article by The Times and are set to be further explored in a Channel 4 Dispatches special on Saturday night.

Buzzfeed News: Since the episode aired, several more concerning moments from Russell's work have also come to light — including the British star's admission in his memoirs that he has coerced reluctant women into having sex with him.
"I lied and danced and evoked the spirit of Pan till reluctantly she removed her bra, I used tears and emotional blackmail to secure the immolation of her knickers," he writes in My Booky Wook, which was published in 2007.
Elsewhere, he calls "the challenge" of decoding a woman's "moral resistance" a "nobstacle course," and also admits to spitting in an exotic dancer's face. Discussing an encounter with a sex worker, Russell reveals that he destroyed her phone after getting annoyed by how much it was ringing.
He calls this moment "the worst act of misogyny I've committed since the spitting debacle."
In Booky Wook 2: This Time It’s Personal, published in 2010, Russell claims that the controller at his BBC radio show let him have sex with the show's competition winners in the "disabled toilet" at the studio.
At one point, Russell says of his candid confessions, "What kind of man was I? Treating women in this way? If this is what I'm telling you, can you imagine what's being left out?"
And now a video of Russell joking about raping and killing a woman has emerged online, with the star also discussing having sex with children in the same show.
The disturbing comments were made during Russell's appearance on Richard Herring's Leicester Square Theatre podcast, which was filmed in front of a live audience in 2013.
While the full episode of the podcast has since been removed from Richard's platforms, clips obtained by Page Six and the Daily Mail show Russell telling the crowd, "Oh, I've raped someone once."
After a beat, he adds, "And killed her after."
Later, Russell made gags about the ancient Greeks having sex with children while developing math. He says, "They didn’t mind it, did they? They were clever, weren’t they?"
Mimicking an ancient Greek having sex, Russell goes on, "I’ve done another triangle. I’m fucking a little kid. This is great. Fuck the kid with the triangle!"
A spokesperson for the BBC said, "The BBC does not ban or remove content when it is a matter of public record, unless we have justification for doing so. There is limited content featuring Russell Brand on iPlayer and Sounds. We've reviewed that content and made a considered decision to remove some of it, having assessed that it now falls below public expectations." In 2006, Australian singer and TV personality Dannii Minogue called Russell a "vile predator" after she was interviewed by him on his show 1 Leicester Square.
"He wouldn't take no for an answer," she added to the Mirror at the time.
A video of Russell kissing a TV journalist on the mouth and joking about removing her bra at the end of an interview has also resurfaced, and both the Times and Deadline published reports claiming that Russell's Roast Battle cohost Katherine Ryan confronted him about his alleged behavior on camera back in 2018.
Russell was reportedly left "furious" by Katherine's actions, and her alleged remarks were cut from the episodes before they aired.

The bombshell piece reveals four alleged victims who claimed they were abused by Brand during 2006 to 2013.

Buzzfeed News: London's Metropolitan Police also revealed that it has received a report of an alleged sexual assault in 2003.

One says the St Trinian’s actor raped her up against a wall at his home in Los Angeles and he later apologised over text after she told him: ‘When a girl say[s] no it means no.’

Buzzfeed News: Dispatches verified that the messages were sent to [pseudonym] Nadia by a phone number that is attributed to Russell, and the first one reads, "I’m sorry. That was crazy and selfish. I hope you can forgive me, I know that you’re a lovely person.”
Nadia writes in part of her reply, "When a girl says NO it means no. Do I have to go and get myself tested?" A response from the number attributed to Russell says, "I'm very sorry. You don't need to get tested."

A second woman alleges that Brand assaulted her when she was 16 and at school, and he was 31.

Buzzfeed News: [pseudonym] Alice has accused Russell, then 30, of forcing "his penis down her throat” and sharing his satisfaction when she cried during the assault by saying, "I only want to see your mascara run.” She also claimed that he once held her mouth open, drooled into it, and then held her mouth shut to force her to swallow his spit while she was "gagging and crying."
Upon learning of her young age, Russell allegedly told Alice, “I don’t give a fuck if you’re 12 ... I need to know where I stand legally," and is also said to have referred to her as "the child" in the weeks that followed.

She says she had to punch him in the stomach to make him stop after he ‘forced his penis down her throat’.

A third woman claims that Brand threatened to take legal action against her if she told anyone about him allegedly sexually assaulting her while she worked with him in Los Angeles.

Another woman tells the publication that Brand ‘forced a finger inside of her’ after becoming angry when he found out she had spoken to an ex-boyfriend.

She claims he also forced her to brush her teeth so hard and make her gums bleed so she would taste ‘anonymous’ to him, according to The Times.

On Friday night, Brand said he had been approached by a mainstream TV network and a mainstream newspaper with ‘extremely disturbing’ correspondence listing ‘a litany of extremely egregious and aggressive attacks.’

Amid some ‘stupid stuff’ in the correspondence, including, he said, that he ‘shouldn’t be able to attack mainstream media narratives,’ were ‘some very serious allegations that I absolutely refute.’

Brand said: ‘These allegations pertain to the time when I was working in the mainstream, when I was in the newspapers all the time, when I was in the movies.

‘As I’ve written about extensively in my book, I was very, very promiscuous. Now during that time of promiscuity, the relationships that I had were absolutely always consensual. I was always transparent about that then, almost too transparent, and I’m being transparent about it now as well.

‘And to see that transparency metastasise into something criminal that I absolutely deny makes me question is there another agenda at play.’

He said there had been ‘coordinated media attacks’ in the past against people like controversial podcast host Joe Rogan, and that he himself had previously been labelled a conspiracy theorist.

Brand went on to claim media outlets had been trying to contact people he knows ‘for ages and ages,’ but ‘what I seriously refute are these very, very serious criminal allegations.’

He claimed he had ‘witnesses whose evidence directly contradicts the narratives that these two mainstream media outlets are trying to construct, apparently in what seems to me to be a coordinated attack.’

‘Now, I don’t want to get into this any further because of the serious nature of the allegations, but I feel like I’m being attacked and plainly they are working very closely together.

‘We are obviously going to look into this matter because it’s very, very serious.’

https://metro.co.uk/2023/09/16/russell-brand-allegations-rape-sexual-assault-channel-4-dispatches-19510305/?ico=metro-posts_article_whats-trending-now

Metro

More allegations emerge against Russell Brand from woman who ‘turned him down’

Now another woman has come forward, alleging that Brand pinned her down and got a ‘glazed look’ in his eye, something alleged by several women in the investigation, as he allegedly told her: ‘This is what you’re here for.’

The woman, who has asked to remain anonymous, spoke to The Sun about the alleged incident, which she says took place in 2008 when she was 21.

The woman said she first met the actor at London’s Soho Theatre after one of his shows, and later in Chelsea, where she and a friend were invited upstairs for drinks, where she tripped and he helped her up but was ‘so close to me’ and ‘really leery’.

She claims they exchanged numbers and, after requests from Brand, she sent him a picture in her bra; later, after another show in West London, she says she and a friend were invited upstairs again.

She told the outlet she was expecting to be led into a bar but ended up in his dressing room, and claimed Brand began pestering her and her friend to perform sexual acts on each other, saying ‘you know you want to do it’ and ‘this is what you’re here for.’

Her friend became angry and left, and the woman says Brand then forced her onto the sofa though she was ‘pushing him off’ and saying she had to leave to find her friend.

‘He was kissing me on my neck and holding me down… telling me to stay,’ she said, claiming it lasted for around 10 minutes.

She added: ‘He became nasty very, very fast. He started saying “Don’t you know who I am? Why wouldn’t you want to do this’?”

Brand then allegedly told her to leave, and later sent her an apology for being ‘so persistent,’ to which she allegedly replied that he cannot pressure people ‘if someone says no.’

She said she never heard from him again, and did not contact police as she feared they would not take it seriously, but last weekend’s investigation ‘brought it all back.’

https://metro.co.uk/2023/09/20/russell-brand-more-allegations-emerge-as-woman-comes-forward-19533018/?ico=just-in_article_must-read

The Sun

PIERS MORGAN Russell Brand treated women like prey. I know because he told me all about his ‘seduction’ technique

‘ARE you a more successful sexual predator now that you don't drink?’ I asked Russell Brand as we sat in a London café in 2006 doing an interview for GQ magazine.

‘Yes,’ he replied, ‘but I resent the word "predator". I like to think of myself as a conduit of natural forces. After all, the most natural thing in the world for people to do is f*, isn't it? And people want to do it, so all you have to do is remove all the reasons why women don't actually go through with it, like pride and reputation. You just have to unpick the conditions stopping women going straight to bed with you.’

When I asked him if he was attracting more women since becoming a celebrity, he said: ‘All that's changed is the amount of seduction required has decreased to almost preposterous proportions now that I'm famous. I've always been good at pulling because I'm quite charming, and totally dedicated to the cause. But if I talked to ten women in the old days then I'd back myself to pull two or three. Now, I wouldn't be happy with less than eight or nine. And whereas I would have devoted a lot of time to the seduction depending on the quality of the target, now I just get on with it. Fame has been very helpful in that respect.’

When I re-read these exchanges after news broke about Brand being accused of rape and sexual assault, I winced.

I didn’t know if he was an actual sexual predator when I used that description in a jocular manner, and he instantly denied being one then as emphatically as he did again in response to the very serious revelations published in the Sunday Times and broadcast by Channel 4 Dispatches.

But there can be no doubt from the way Brand spoke about women that he considered them as some kind of prey, nor that he is the single most shameless and brazen sexual braggart I’ve ever interviewed.

He told me he’d had sex with up to 2,000 women and proudly detailed the scale of his sexual encounters: ‘Oh God, at the peak it would be around five a day. One in the morning, maybe two for lunch and three for tea. I've had nights when I've looked down my bed and seen a plague of women devouring me.’

But in the same interview, he insisted: ‘I've always tried to avoid misogyny and aggression when it comes to women… I'm really not a nasty little pervert… I do believe women are goddesses, and I try to treat them as such.’

Like so much of Russell Brand’s over-the-top polarising personality, there were obvious contradictions in his various statements.

He’s also prone to embellishment.

So, it’s hard to know where the truth lies with Russell Brand.

But someone who might know is his ex-wife, pop superstar Katy Perry.

When we met in 2013 at a Vanity Fair party in Washington DC, after her divorce from Brand, I tried to book her for an interview.

‘I’m not ready yet,’ she said.

‘Why not?’

‘Because you’ll get the truth out of me, and I’m just not ready to tell you the truth! In fact, I’m not sure I’m ready to admit the truth to myself.’

Then she laughed. ‘You Brits are all the same, so damn confident… Trouble is, I find that irresistible. I love Brits… Well, not all of them – not Rasputin, obviously.’

What truth was she worried about admitting?

(In an interview with Vogue magazine that same month, she said: ‘I felt a lot of responsibility for it (the marriage) ending, but then I found out the real truth, which I can’t necessarily disclose because I keep it locked in my safe for a rainy day.’)

And why did she call her ex-husband ‘Rasputin’, after the fiercely intelligent but sex-crazed, manipulative, controlling and sinister bearded Russian monk who helped topple Tsar Nicholas II in the 1917 Russian Revolution?

Brand was thrilled when I told him what Katy had said, exclaiming: ‘GRIGORI RASPUTIN!’ He was a pretty powerful bloke, he could manipulate folks with his eyes. I like Rasputin... he was all right, wasn’t he... a mad monk with magical, mystical powers, having it off with everyone, drinking and getting into fights.’

We both laughed.

But there is nothing remotely amusing about the allegations now being made against him.

Yes, by today’s stricter moral code post the #MeToo campaign, it’s easy to be appalled by Brand’s self-confessed historical conduct as an outrageously promiscuous sex addict.

But he made no secret of that, and it didn’t stop BBC Newsnight using him as a political Svengali, The Guardian hiring him as a columnist, Channel 4 employing him for numerous jobs, or Ed Miliband seeking his endorsement for Prime Minister.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24026343/piers-morgan-russell-brand-katy-perry-allegations-sexual-assault-rape/

BBC News

Russell Brand: Woman says star exposed himself to her then laughed about it on Radio 2 show

The woman, who we are calling Olivia, worked for a media company in the same building as the BBC's Los Angeles office.

On 16 June 2008, she says she answered the door to Brand and his team, who were there to pre-record an episode of The Russell Brand Show for Radio 2.

She then went to the bathroom to get some sinus medication, walking past the radio studio. While squatting to look through the medicine cabinet, she says she felt someone behind her.

She turned around to face a man's crotch. "I was startled and got up and I realised it was the man that I'd let in - Russell."

In the conversation that followed, she recalls him saying: "Oh, I think you're a bit alright. I think you're a bit of alright."

She says he told her he was going to call her Betty. When she said that wasn't her name, she says he replied: "Well, I'm gonna fuck you."

"And I said: 'No, you're not.'"

She says he then pulled out his penis on his hand and "pretty much served it to me as you would be serving someone some food".

She says the door to the bathroom was closed, and she felt trapped.

"There was a bit of banter going on because I didn't know what to do."

Olivia says he then put his penis back in his trousers, and she heard someone banging on the door. She says someone from his team called for him, at which point Brand left.

'I felt disgusted'

Olivia says she returned to her desk in disbelief at what had happened, and texted a BBC employee in the office about it.

He told her that he knew what had happened because Brand was talking about it in the studio.

Following the investigation by The Sunday Times, The Times and Channel 4's Dispatches programme into Brand's alleged behaviour, published earlier this month, Olivia says she tracked down a recording of the programme.

The episode, which aired on 21 June, 2008, features this exchange between Brand and Morgan.

Morgan: It's been 25 minutes since he showed his willy to a lady.

Brand: (Laughing) Very easy to judge! Very easy to judge!

Morgan: The receptionist…

Brand: (Laughing) Look…

Morgan: Receive this!

Morgan adds: "He got told off for ringing a bell, minutes later he's showing his willy." Brand can be heard laughing in the background.

Olivia, who has never worked as a receptionist, says she felt disgusted when she heard it.

"I feel ashamed, but more so I wonder had something been done, perhaps there would have been fewer women he would have done horrible things to, which we're reading about in the papers now."

In a statement sent to the BBC via his legal team, Morgan said: "I was not aware until now of the nature of this encounter.

"I have expressed my regret now looking back at the impact of the show, and this is a further example.

"The recent coverage has been very distressing to read and I reiterate my absolute condemnation of any form of mistreatment of women."

Olivia never made a complaint but said she had hoped that someone from the BBC would contact her after hearing the recording. That never happened.

"I thought to myself, Oh, that's a bit strange nobody has come to say sorry to me, for his behaviour. So I thought perhaps that particular audio - because it was so graphic - had been cut out, which is probably why I never pursued it."

She says she thought people wouldn't take her seriously: "I am blonde. Accented."

She says she was also worried about the potential impact on her and her family if she had raised it officially.

"Had I known audio existed, I probably would have done something as the incident would have been corroborated," she says.

When she told BBC staff about the story over the years, they would laugh it off, she says.

"We all did. It was shock and like, 'What, did this really happen?'"

In 2019, BBC management was informed about the incident by a BBC staff member who had spoken to Olivia.

She says nobody from BBC management approached her directly about the incident and no formal action was taken.

Olivia says she feels let down by the BBC.

"What allowed that output go out like that? What made the BBC think that was appropriate to go out like that? I just don't understand why they didn't investigate this much sooner.

"And I suspect there's far worse in all those episodes that I can't even stomach to listen to."

In his statement, Morgan added he stopped working with Brand "several years ago" and "was never aware of any allegations of serious sexual misconduct against him".

"Looking back on the time I spent working on radio at the BBC, I am regretful to learn that a show I was part of made colleagues uncomfortable at times," he added.

The BBC's director general Tim Davie, who became director of Audio and Music at the BBC a few days after the show was broadcast, has already announced a review of Russell Brand's time at the BBC.

In its statement on this incident, the BBC invited the woman involved to contact them. "We would be very keen to hear from her and anyone else who may have information," it said.

The statement continued: "We will of course speak to the bureau team and anyone who was working there in 2008 as part of this."

"Further, the director general has been very clear that some broadcasts from that period were, and are, inexcusable and totally unacceptable, and would never be aired today," it added.

Brand resigned from the BBC in October 2008 after he and presenter Jonathan Ross left obscene voicemail messages for Fawlty Towers actor Andrew Sachs about Brand's sexual relationship with Sachs' granddaughter.

Olivia says she told her family about the incident last weekend.

"My sister said to me: 'Why didn't you kick him in the nuts and drop elbow him?'"

"I couldn't have done that. What I needed to do was get out of that bathroom in one piece, which I did."

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-66882644

Aljazeera

Russell Brand never hid his misogyny. So why did so many fail to see it?

Blatant displays of misogyny, such as “jokes” about sexual abuse and degradation of women, are never “harmless banter”. Radical feminists have been saying this since “lad culture”, a popular youth subculture that glorifies male violence, exaggerated expressions of masculinity and sexual aggression, first emerged in Britain as part of a backlash against feminist gains in the 1990s.

Whenever we tried to raise the alarm about this misogynistic “banter”, which came to dominate TV shows, newspaper columns, comedy acts and student life alike throughout the 2000s and 2010s, they accused us of “not having a sense of humour”, of being “too uptight”.

For decades, pure, unadulterated sexism has been sold to the masses as “comedy” and we, radical feminists, have been accused of not having a sense of humour for not finding rape “funny”.

The comedian that made the most of this toxic cultural space was Russell Brand.

Brand joked a lot about rape.

Millions laughed with him. Over and over again.

Earlier this week, a joint investigation by Channel 4’s Dispatches and the Sunday Times alleged that Brand was not only “joking” about abusing women. In a documentary, aptly titled Russell Brand: In Plain Sight, several women gave testimony accusing Brand of rape, sexual assaults and emotional abuse during a seven-year period at the height of his fame.

Many of those who publicly embraced him, laughed at his jokes and applauded his empty rants about “revolution” for years, rushed to condemn him. They seemed shocked.

Were they not listening when he openly told them what he thought of women and how he preferred to treat them?

All this, however, is bigger than one investigation about one lewd comedian.

Recent revelations, which put a spotlight on his public behaviour and speech in the past two decades, raised serious questions about why his misogynistic “comedy” was supported by so many in the first place.

Indeed, if I, a white person, were to crack jokes about beating up Black people, or have a bit of a laugh about racist stereotypes, I’d be taken for a racist. And rightly so: thinking that insulting and degrading people of colour is just a bit of fun would indeed mean that I held the very views I was “joking” about.

So how did this dangerous misogynist become a household name in Britain?

The most obvious answer, unfortunately, is that many of Brand’s fans simply enjoy the misogyny (He reportedly performed in front of “2000 adoring fans” hours after the rape and sexual assault allegations were made public). Perhaps a few others, especially men on the left, recognised the sexism inherent to Brand’s comedy and public persona, but decided to overlook it because of his popular anti-capitalist ramblings – after all who cares about rape and abuse when someone is calling for an undefined, unrealistic, but very passionate revolution?

There were also many women, some claiming to be feminists, who supported Brand and accused us, radical feminists, of being killjoys when we criticised his obvious misogyny. What gives?

This anomaly – women cheering on a man who “jokes” about harming them – was, I believe, at least in part, created by liberal feminism.

Liberal feminism, dubbed “fun feminism” by feminist writer Andrea Dworkin, certainly muddies the waters in which all women and girls are forced to swim. It is the sort of feminism that men can – and often do – get on board with. The slut marches, the pole dancing (as exercise, of course), and the “sex work is work“ ethos of liberal feminism leaves women willing to go along with Brand’s “humour” on the grounds that it’s edgy – sexy, even.

Actual feminists see the direct correlation between misogynistic attitudes (such as joking about women being unable to breathe when performing oral sex) and actual male violence. We know that “jokes” about violence against women, like those of Brand, can easily translate into real sex crimes carried on the bodies of real women and girls – we have seen it many times. This is why we encourage women to take a stance against men like Brand and those who support them.

Liberal feminism softens that challenge by talking less about patriarchy and the actual material realities of women’s lives and more about women’s “choice” and “agency”. It is an individualistic approach (mainly spouted by upper-middle-class women with an eye on the glass ceiling) in which every single thing they do – from pole dancing to baking cupcakes – is a “choice”, which in turn makes it “feminist”. They even claim that rough, degrading sex can be “fun”.

Today we have a movement of young women describing themselves as “libfems” who, in telling men that they too can be feminists simply by pretending to respect women’s agency, are absolving them of any kind of responsibility.

Liberal feminism’s embrace of abuse, objectification and misogyny as a feminist “choice” has had a disastrous effect on men’s accountability. It created the space for Brand to joke about harming women without any pushback. It helped many more men to abuse and degrade women and get away with it.

Misogyny is not funny or fun. Men who constantly “joke” about sexually assaulting and degrading women are not talented comedians but threats to women’s safety. The feminist writer Maya Angelou once said, “When people show you who they are, believe them the first time.” We, radical feminists, have long known who Russell Brand is and what he represents. This week’s revelations did not teach us much that is new or unexpected about Brand or men in general. But they reminded us why we need to be wary of liberal feminism – and its many male and female promoters.

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/9/21/russell-brand-never-hid-his-misogyny-so-why-did-so-many-fail-to-see-it

Daily Mail: 'It was harmless': Katharine McPhee DENIES Russell Brand made her feel uncomfortable by bouncing her on his knee on Tonight Show in 2013 - as host Jimmy Fallon jokingly tells the embattled comedian off

@Cashmere said:

Wait… they take off their bra and throw it? I’d put an extra bra in my bag for that.

I would too. I don’t want to dance and jump without bra. I don’t want gravity pulling the twins down.

There is limited content featuring Russell Brand on iPlayer and Sounds. We've reviewed that content and made a considered decision to remove some of it, having assessed that it now falls below public expectations."

Yes, by today’s stricter moral code post the #MeToo campaign, it’s easy to be appalled by Brand’s self-confessed historical conduct as an outrageously promiscuous sex addict.

But he made no secret of that, and it didn’t stop BBC Newsnight using him as a political Svengali, The Guardian hiring him as a columnist, Channel 4 employing him for numerous jobs, or Ed Miliband seeking his endorsement for Prime Minister.

In a statement sent to the BBC via his legal team, Morgan said: "I was not aware until now of the nature of this encounter.

"I have expressed my regret now looking back at the impact of the show, and this is a further example.

"The recent coverage has been very distressing to read and I reiterate my absolute condemnation of any form of mistreatment of women."

"Looking back on the time I spent working on radio at the BBC, I am regretful to learn that a show I was part of made colleagues uncomfortable at times," he added.

The BBC's director general Tim Davie, who became director of Audio and Music at the BBC a few days after the show was broadcast, has already announced a review of Russell Brand's time at the BBC.

"Further, the director general has been very clear that some broadcasts from that period were, and are, inexcusable and totally unacceptable, and would never be aired today," it added.

Many of those who publicly embraced him, laughed at his jokes and applauded his empty rants about “revolution” for years, rushed to condemn him. They seemed shocked.

I wrote:

@HCFan said: People in the entertainment industry create and condone awful situations. Then, when someone say something, they will pretend like they didn’t know there was an awful situation.

Now that there were investigations, people who were aware that what Russell was doing was wrong are pretending they didn’t know or they’re sorry. I can’t believe there are people who find rape, pedophilia and misogyny funny.

One says the St Trinian’s actor raped her up against a wall at his home in Los Angeles and he later apologised over text after she told him: ‘When a girl say[s] no it means no.’

I wrote:

@HCFan said: A while back, we were talking about old hags fantasizing about being raped by celebs. At least, those freaks just fantasize. If you’re a man in Hollywood, you can come close to really experiencing raping someone.

You don’t come close. You can actually rape someone.

There were also many women, some claiming to be feminists, who supported Brand and accused us, radical feminists, of being killjoys when we criticised his obvious misogyny. What gives?

This anomaly – women cheering on a man who “jokes” about harming them – was, I believe, at least in part, created by liberal feminism.

I’m not shocked that some women are willing (pretend) to like stuff that can be harmful to them just to appeal to men. There are some women aka old hags who spend a lot of time bashing other women just bc these women are dating a man that they don’t even know. I’m talking about the actors they like. They like the man and hate the women. Female misogynists are real. I haven’t seen guys bash the bf of Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande or any other hot female celeb yet.

Old hags bashed every single gf that HC had. They’re still bashing his current gf. They so desperately want to believe that HC and NV are unhappy or in a “PR relationship” that they keep asking like-minded wannabe body language and tarot card readers to tell them what they want to read.

Right now, old hags are calling CE’s wife all kinds of things. It bothers them that she’s 16 years younger than CE. So they bash him too. She’s a baby and he's an awful man. A predator. Cradle robber. Since when is a 26 yo a baby? I’m a few years younger and I don’t want anybody calling me a f*cking baby. I bet those old hags didn’t like being called a baby when they were in their twenties either. So WTF is their problem? It’s not young people’s fault that you’re no longer young. That’s nature’s fault. You don’t have to treat young people like babies to feel good or young. One day, we twentiers will be old too.

What old hags should do is start behaving their age. That’s what they should do. Obsession with male celebs is a teenage thing. Thinking these men belong to you or you can decide who they can date or think you know what’s going on in their lives is just crazy. That’s not even a teenage thing. Some of these old idiots even think they can decide who should be fan of an actor. Girls my age shouldn’t be fan of celebs like HC, CE, JL etc. bc we’re too young. WTF? Well, now I’m more “obsessed” with them. They do say forbidden fruit is sweeter, don’t they? I LOVE the 51 yo one the most.

@HCFan said:

It bothers them that she’s 16 years younger than CE.

It bothers them that CE made it look like he was single. They feel… deceived. joy But they keep doing that to themselves. They concluded that no sighting of the couple means they broke up.

A predator. Cradle robber.

And he likes them young … or some BS like that. If you don’t know how nasty those jealous old hags can be, you’ll think that CE likes underage girls.

Since when is a 26 yo a baby? I’m a few years younger and I don’t want anybody calling me a f*cking baby. I bet those old hags didn’t like being called a baby when they were in their twenties either. So WTF is their problem? It’s not young people’s fault that you’re no longer young. That’s nature’s fault. You don’t have to treat young people like babies to feel good or young. One day, we twentiers will be old too.

What old hags should do is start behaving their age. That’s what they should do. Obsession with male celebs is a teenage thing. Thinking these men belong to you or you can decide who they can date or think you know what’s going on in their lives is just crazy. That’s not even a teenage thing.

Hot actors won’t remain single forever. So… we haven’t heard the last of the old hags. Next time a… variant of what I quoted above is regurgitated, it should have something new. thinking

Most of the old hags are Americans. They think 26 is a baby. They’re so concerned that an older person can… take advantage of such a young person. Are they also concerned that 18 yo babies can legally buy long guns and handguns in many US states?

@Cashmere said:

Metro

Russell Brand ‘forced his penis down 16-year-old’s throat’ as multiple women accuse him of rape, sexual assault and emotional abuse

The bombshell piece reveals four alleged victims who claimed they were abused by Brand during 2006 to 2013.

Metro

More allegations emerge against Russell Brand from woman who ‘turned him down’

The woman, who has asked to remain anonymous, spoke to The Sun about the alleged incident, which she says took place in 2008 when she was 21.

BBC News

Russell Brand: Woman says star exposed himself to her then laughed about it on Radio 2 show

The episode, which aired on 21 June, 2008, features this exchange between Brand and Morga

Why now? MeToo started in 2017.

Hot actors won’t remain single forever. So… we haven’t heard the last of the old hags.

clap

@Cashmere said:

Sometimes a want to lose three… four pounds. I don’t have to do it ten days. I love to eat, but I don’t like to work out twice.

Remember I wrote nobody eats in the summer? Well, the summer is over. Everything that shows too much skin is stored away. Bring the raincoats, sweaters and waterproof boots. And with that said, where’s that very fat burger that can be beneficial for our health? BTW, this weekend, I’m going to make dirty Oreo and the mug Oreo cake. It’s eat season, ladies.

Wait… they take off their bra and throw it? I’d put an extra bra in my bag for that.

They must want their scent on it, because it’s not really that easy or handy to take off your bra in a crowded place.

Aljazeera

Russell Brand never hid his misogyny. So why did so many fail to see it?

Indeed, if I, a white person, were to crack jokes about beating up Black people, or have a bit of a laugh about racist stereotypes, I’d be taken for a racist. And rightly so: thinking that insulting and degrading people of colour is just a bit of fun would indeed mean that I held the very views I was “joking” about.

If you make pedophile, rape or murder jokes, you hold the very views you were “joking” about.

Most of the old hags are Americans. They think 26 is a baby. They’re so concerned that an older person can… take advantage of such a young person. Are they also concerned that 18 yo babies can legally buy long guns and handguns in many US states?

Exactly. They don’t get their grandma knickers in a twist over that.

@HCFan said:

Since when is a 26 yo a baby? I’m a few years younger and I don’t want anybody calling me a f*cking baby.

I didn’t know babies can be 177.5 cm tall. Crap! Babies are cute, because they’re small, pudgy, bald with puffy cheeks and no chin. Something tells me I’m not a cute baby. Next time, old hags will call young people aliens.

I LOVE the 51 yo one the most.

It took me like ten minutes to realize who the 51 yo one is. I thought 51 was a code. Heck, I even thought you meant Area 51 for some reason. laughing

@Cashmere said:

BBC News

Russell Brand: Woman says star exposed himself to her then laughed about it on Radio 2 show

The woman, who we are calling Olivia, worked for a media company in the same building as the BBC's Los Angeles office.

On 16 June 2008, she says she answered the door to Brand and his team, who were there to pre-record an episode of The Russell Brand Show for Radio 2.

She then went to the bathroom to get some sinus medication, walking past the radio studio. While squatting to look through the medicine cabinet, she says she felt someone behind her.

She turned around to face a man's crotch. "I was startled and got up and I realised it was the man that I'd let in - Russell."

In the conversation that followed, she recalls him saying: "Oh, I think you're a bit alright. I think you're a bit of alright."

She says he told her he was going to call her Betty. When she said that wasn't her name, she says he replied: "Well, I'm gonna fuck you."

"And I said: 'No, you're not.'"

She says he then pulled out his penis on his hand and "pretty much served it to me as you would be serving someone some food".

She says the door to the bathroom was closed, and she felt trapped.

"There was a bit of banter going on because I didn't know what to do."

Olivia says he then put his penis back in his trousers, and she heard someone banging on the door. She says someone from his team called for him, at which point Brand left.

That woman must have been terrified. You don’t go to an office job thinking that you can get raped in the ladies room. Hey, you have to be careful and take a friend or colleague. WTH?

@HCFan said:

They like the man and hate the women. Female misogynists are real.

No kidding. lol Maybe when you reach a certain age you’ll start hating everything. Old hags hate young women, skinny women, tall women, blonde women. lol

Skinny women are unreal, anorexic or bulimic. Real women have meat on their bones.

Tall girls all think they are or can be models. Really? Most jobs have job requirements. Being tall is required to be a model. That doesn’t mean that all tall girls want to be a model. What’s with the generalizing?

Blonde women think they’re hot. They do or did someone decide that blonde is the beauty standard? Apparently, the sexiest woman was Marilyn Monroe and she was a fake blonde. Madonna, Margot Robbie, Shakira, JLo, Beyonce and many more are constantly in fake blonde mode. I think people bleach their hair because they think being a blonde makes them hot, beautiful, desirable or whatever.

@AnnaB said:

No kidding. lol Maybe when you reach a certain age you’ll start hating everything. Old hags hate young women, skinny women, tall women, blonde women. lol

Old hags hate everything they are not. It’s easy to talk crap about other people’s look when nobody can see you.

Madonna, Margot Robbie, Shakira, JLo, Beyonce and many more are constantly in fake blonde mode.

Beyonce was in fake blonde mode next to Taylor Swift at the premiere of The Eras Tour movie.

@Cashmere said:

If you don’t know how nasty those jealous old hags can be, you’ll think that CE likes underage girls.

That’s the trend. They’ll try to make the male celeb look like a pervert and the gf is a stripper, escort, porn star or hooker.

Most of the old hags are Americans. They think 26 is a baby. They’re so concerned that an older person can… take advantage of such a young person. Are they also concerned that 18 yo babies can legally buy long guns and handguns in many US states?

In many states, the age is 21. That’s still a baby. rolling_eyes

@Triksy said:

Why now? MeToo started in 2017.

Whose toes did he step on? Everybody knew what kind of despicable waste of space he was, but did nothing. Something weird’s going. So I don't think we should blindly believe every story. If a woman has a complain, take her seriously and investigate. Stories should be published after the police found some sort of evidence. That’s how it should be done, especially after seeing how nasty hags can get when a male celeb they don’t even know get a gf or get married. Some of those hags fantasize about being raped by their favorite celebs when he’s single. Then the story will change into something that did happen when he starts dating. The younger the gf, the nastier the stories. And many foolish netizens will believe everything they read online.

@Sue-Yin said:

Heck, I even thought you meant Area 51 for some reason. laughing

Sometimes JL does look like he escaped from area 51. rofl

@Sue-Yin said:

And with that said, where’s that very fat burger that can be beneficial for our health? TW, this weekend, I’m going to make dirty Oreo and the mug Oreo cake.

So now you want a burger? How was the oreo cake?

They must want their scent on it, because it’s not really that easy or handy to take off your bra in a crowded place.

Ewww! Are we animals that need each other’s scent on things now?

I didn’t know babies can be 177.5 cm tall. Crap! Babies are cute, because they’re small, pudgy, bald with puffy cheeks and no chin. Something tells me I’m not a cute baby.

You were cute as a baby. So… WTH happened to you? Did someone catch the plate number of the bus that hit you? stuck_out_tongue

@AnnaB said:

No kidding. lol Maybe when you reach a certain age you’ll start hating everything. Old hags hate young women, skinny women, tall women, blonde women. lol

They always hated thin girls and said that BS. I bet they’re fat… obese.

But NV made them suddenly hate blondes and tall women. It started with the BS about body double. The body double’s height wasn’t right. They think NV’s almost as tall as HC. So… she’s huge and ugly. Women shouldn’t be so tall. Some even said NV has a heavy butt and looked chubby… or maybe she’s preggers.

I thought women should have meat on their bones to be... well... a woman… to not be plastic. They made fun of LC for not having a butt and breasts. Now… having a butt isn’t right. They never heard of natural big breasts either. NV’s breasts are big since she’s 15. You can see her in the MS16 show.

@HCFan said:

Whose toes did he step on? Everybody knew what kind of despicable waste of space he was, but did nothing. Something weird’s going. So I don't think we should blindly believe every story. If a woman has a complain, take her seriously and investigate. Stories should be published after the police found some sort of evidence. That’s how it should be done, especially after seeing how nasty hags can get when a male celeb they don’t even know get a gf or get married. Some of those hags fantasize about being raped by their favorite celebs when he’s single. Then the story will change into something that did happen when he starts dating. The younger the gf, the nastier the stories. And many foolish netizens will believe everything they read online.

Ruining someone’s image and… whole life have become too easy. Maybe we shouldn’t believe that more stories automatically means where there’s smoke, there’s fire either.

When you think about it, humans are known for holding grudges and wanting revenge. Many will never get the chance to get revenge when things don’t go the way they wanted with a lover. So this trend… where one person comes forward with a story and then several others will follow with similar stories… can be… dangerous. Some people can see that as an opportunity to finally get revenge.

When I asked him if he was attracting more women since becoming a celebrity, he said: ‘All that's changed is the amount of seduction required has decreased to almost preposterous proportions now that I'm famous. I've always been good at pulling because I'm quite charming, and totally dedicated to the cause. But if I talked to ten women in the old days then I'd back myself to pull two or three. Now, I wouldn't be happy with less than eight or nine. And whereas I would have devoted a lot of time to the seduction depending on the quality of the target, now I just get on with it. Fame has been very helpful in that respect.’

Going by what that disgusting arse wipe said… many male celebs see more action than non-celebs. They may leave more women heartbroken or disappointed. And many women are willing to do… things with a celeb that they wouldn’t do with a non-celeb. They probably think those things will make the celeb date them. So… some women may hold a grudge. You may get several similar stories, but the consensual part may suddenly disappear.

So… seeing the damage that these stories can cause… nowadays, outlets should be careful with what they publish. They should help those who complain. Make sure the police take them seriously.

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