@ToniTurnyne said:

Brett Ratner’s Rat-PAC Dune Entertainment co-financed JL, as well as other DCEU movies. I’ve noticed that his company Rat-PAC has co-produced a lot of WB movies (eg Fantastic Beasts). Can WB/DC afford not to have him as a producer, particularly if JL ends up being a money loser for WB?

Not unless they find a replacement for him. Most likely, what Ratner will do is change his company's name and be a silent partner, and everyone will act as if they don't know what he is doing.

If he doesn't change the name, he will just be a silent partner.

Kind of makes me wonder why Ben is being singled out for his association with Weinstein, and Gal with Ratner, when every actor and actress in JL is technically kind of associated with Ratner because he co-produced their film (and possibly any other WB film produced in the near future before his contract with WB ends).

Gal put herself in it, because she thought it was the PC thing to do. That speech about it's him or me died down quick. That is because she realized that her actions might delay her sequel or get her fired.

If Gal is sincere of disapproving his behaviour, would she be giving some of the proceeds of her earnings from WW, BvS, or JL because he co-produced thosemovies (kind of how Ben Affleck is giving some of his royalties from the Weinstein movies he made)?

She should give whatever percentage that Bret gives to the making of the film to charity, but she will not do that. Talk is cheap and B.S. walks.

I don't get how some feel they need to boycott certain movies because they are produced or starred by guys with sketchy extra curricular activities. I mean you might as well just not see any movie or show then. Look what's going on with Lasseter at Pixar and Coco is still doing well. I'm with Poetist re Gal. I don't think she can be that outspoken because she doesn't have much clout. I remember watching a YouTuber talking about not liking how WW and the Amazons were portrayed in JL and she wanted Gal to speak up more to preserve get character. She ain't gonna do that! She's no Scar Jo nor is she J Law. If Ben had an issue about how Batman was written the suits would definitely listen to him. If Gal did the same they'd just replace her with someone who can ask How High if they told her to jump.

@MDBAddict said:

I don't get how some feel they need to boycott certain movies because they are produced or starred by guys with sketchy extra curricular activities.

There had been great discussions about whether you can separate the artist(s) from the finished product. It’s not only movie makers who have ‘sketchy extra curricular activities’, but other artists like musicians, authors and painters too. There was one opinion piece I read on the net where the author took the time to write down all the names of famous authors, painters, musicians and philosophers with questionable ‘extra curricular activities’ (eg wife beaters, womanisers, child abusers, drug addicts, misogynists, racists etc) If you go through the list of the artists and the work they’ve done, you’d start questioning yourself as to whether you want to boycott all their fantastic work. For example, Roald Dahl, famous author of children’s books was quite abusive towards his wife and cheated on her regularly before dumping her for a much a younger woman. Then there’s the case of Marion Zimmer Bradley who abused her own daughter and covered up for her pedophile husband.

I do find people pick and choose who they boycott, and do not pass judgment consistently.

I mean you might as well just not see any movie or show then. Look what's going on with Lasseter at Pixar and Coco is still doing well.

Coco is indeed doing very well, particularly in China which is quite something. Apparently, that movie crossed the cultural barrier and resonated well with many Chinese audiences. (Apparently, theatres provide tissues for all the crying — LOL!)I think the audience just want to see the good story (product) and is ignoring/oblivious to the shenanigans of Lasseter.

I'm with Poetist re Gal. I don't think she can be that outspoken because she doesn't have much clout. I remember watching a YouTuber talking about not liking how WW and the Amazons were portrayed in JL and she wanted Gal to speak up more to preserve get character. She ain't gonna do that! She's no Scar Jo nor is she J Law. If Ben had an issue about how Batman was written the suits would definitely listen to him. If Gal did the same they'd just replace her with someone who can ask How High if they told her to jump.

I would think she would have a contract with WB to play Wonder Woman for a set number of movies or maybe a duration of time. She’s already been in 3 movies where Ratner was a co-producer, and Ratner’s Rat-PAC co-produces a lot of WB’s movies. At the most she might copy Brad Pitt who continued on starring in movies produced by Weinstein, even after he threatened HW when he found out that he was harassing his then gf, Gwyneth. Brad Pitt said he still did movies for the Weinstein company beacuase HW was nowhere around during the production. Could it be the same with Gal, because Brett Ratner may only be providing the finances in the background but not present during filming?

I'd still do a film for the millions especially if I'm not working with the prick. LOL. But that's just me.

@ToniTurnyne said:

@MDBADDICT: I'm with Poetist re Gal. I don't think she can be that outspoken because she doesn't have much clout. I remember watching a YouTuber talking about not liking how WW and the Amazons were portrayed in JL and she wanted Gal to speak up more to preserve get character. She ain't gonna do that! She's no Scar Jo nor is she J Law. If Ben had an issue about how Batman was written the suits would definitely listen to him. If Gal did the same they'd just replace her with someone who can ask How High if they told her to jump.

I would think she would have a contract with WB to play Wonder Woman for a set number of movies or maybe a duration of time. She’s already been in 3 movies where Ratner was a co-producer, and Ratner’s Rat-PAC co-produces a lot of WB’s movies.

And... she'll do a hundred more.

Re: contract for WW

It means nothing if she says she will walk if Ratner is a producer. They will happily let her break the contract as long as they keep their money man. Then, they will happily sue her for breaking the contract, as they keep their money man.

I would hope that he hasn't had to deal with it, but my guess would be yes. Henry is an extremely handsome man, if he was a regular dude with a 9-5 job Monday-Friday, women would still lust after him and show interest. Hell, there was an interview he was doing during the Whatever Works time and the female interviewer was (IMO) getting inappropriate, saying "can I be your wench", "Can I get some private tutoring", "Henry, what is going on there, I don't like it one bit!". This is all from ONE interview.

He has made it clear that he does enjoy women adoring him and even being possessive of him (unless it hurts someone he cares about). But, I wouldn't be surprised if he has had to deal with some unwanted sexual advances towards him, probably from both women and men. And also jealous men being aggressive w/him because their woman wants Henry more than them.

But all this is just speculation. If he has, I don't think he would ever discuss it publicly.

@Nerdingout said:

I would hope that he hasn't had to deal with it, but my guess would be yes. Henry is an extremely handsome man, if he was a regular dude with a 9-5 job Monday-Friday, women would still lust after him and show interest. Hell, there was an interview he was doing during the Whatever Works time and the female interviewer was (IMO) getting inappropriate, saying "can I be your wench", "Can I get some private tutoring", "Henry, what is going on there, I don't like it one bit!". This is all from ONE interview.

I don’t know if you recall — at one point in the IMDB someone (Poetist?) posted a video where HC was surrounded by girls after an event in Jersey which he came home for. I think it was a rugby match between the women rugby teams of Jersey and Guernsey or some other cup? In the video, he was surrounded by adoring local fans, and suddenly you saw him jump, and Poetist and I suspected that someone made a move to grab his butt or some other ‘sensitive part’ of his anatomy. On another time, you saw this senior Italian lady kissing him on the cheek and the look on HC’s face was priceless! LOL! So would you consider these moments ‘sexual harassment’? Or ‘sexual assault’?

What I do wonder about is whether HC ever lost parts because he didn’t ‘give-in’ to some powerful Hollywood predators?

On the other hand, we can also speculate if HC himself may have said/done something inappropriate too. Remember that in the old IMDB there were often posts about him saying something inappropriate to both women and men during the times he was most likely drunk? (Referring to the V-word incident, the C-cup comment and the case of the gay Irish guy who got offended by how HC talked to him in an after-party of some Irish music festival).

Another one bites the dust?

http://deadline.com/2017/12/bryan-singer-fired-freddie-mercury-rami-malek-queen-movie-1202218722/

So everyone is speculating that Bryan Singer will be the next ‘big’ person in Hollywood who would be hit with a sexual harassment scandal, and one would wonder if this is why he was acting up on the set of F Mercury biopic and why Fox fired him.

It would be interesting who would come forward (if there are legitimate ones with stories to tell).... HC had a ‘history’ with Singer, so I wonder if he would have stories to tell???

@ToniTurnyne said:

Another one bites the dust?

http://deadline.com/2017/12/bryan-singer-fired-freddie-mercury-rami-malek-queen-movie-1202218722/

So everyone is speculating that Bryan Singer will be the next ‘big’ person in Hollywood who would be hit with a sexual harassment scandal, and one would wonder if this is why he was acting up on the set of F Mercury biopic and why Fox fired him.

Bryan may be the sacrificial lamb of his circle, because he's too coked up to keep under control or they might protect him as usual.

It would be interesting who would come forward (if there are legitimate ones with stories to tell).... HC had a ‘history’ with Singer, so I wonder if he would have stories to tell???

Yeah, that would be interesting, but I'm not holding my breath.

HC has been silent about the big harassment issue going around Hollywood. Not even giving his opinion or support.

I wonder if it’s because last year, he got hit when he voiced his own opinion about the ‘double standards’ regarding sexual harassmentL

https://www.themarysue.com/henry-cavill-catcall/

I do like one quote from this article:

Without more context it’s unfair to judge this instance specifically, but a lot of the time it feels like mainstream media is more interested in highlighting the offhand comments of one celebrity than they are in actually encouraging a productive discourse about harassment.

As I recall, HC got some criticisms for his remarks too. He’s lucky he made those remarks before the #Metoo thing came along, otherwise he could be as skewered as Matt Damon.

@ToniTurnyne said:

HC has been silent about the big harassment issue going around Hollywood. Not even giving his opinion or support.

I wonder if it’s because last year, he got hit when he voiced his own opinion about the ‘double standards’ regarding sexual harassmentL

https://www.themarysue.com/henry-cavill-catcall/

I do like one quote from this article:

Without more context it’s unfair to judge this instance specifically, but a lot of the time it feels like mainstream media is more interested in highlighting the offhand comments of one celebrity than they are in actually encouraging a productive discourse about harassment.

As I recall, HC got some criticisms for his remarks too. He’s lucky he made those remarks before the #Metoo thing came along, otherwise he could be as skewered as Matt Damon.

So true.

Interesting article:

http://deadline.com/2018/01/hollywood-sexual-harassment-assault-scandal-backlash-fear-women-1202236427/

The article only spoke of ‘backlash’ against women, but I wonder if the same backlash would apply to the men who comes forward? (Another reason HC could be silent?)

One of the anonymous people interviewed also mentioned this:

The producer also expressed suspicions that rivals have attempted to take advantage of the current situation already by encouraging people to speak out about alleged harassment on one of her shows in an effort to boaster their own series in contrast. “Everybody works with everybody at one point but everybody wants to be No. 1,” she said, claiming she is far from the only one to see such opportunistic behavior. “If you can knock someone else off their game to get ahead is still and will always be the prevailing attitude in this town.”

Toni, I think this paragraph is very telling.

“Hollywood’s a boys’ town and they will do what they have to do to keep their power, even if that means paying lip service for a while to stamping out misogyny,” the award-winning showrunner tells Deadline. “There are a lot of women staying quiet, worried that the boys are keeping a list for those who go public,” she added. “It’ll happen later, under the radar, a lot of it will be unspoken even, but careers will be sidetracked, promotions blocked, I just know it. That’s always been the way this town has worked.”

In regards to HC, I don't think retaliation is his reason for being quiet.

@Poetist said:

Toni, I think this paragraph is very telling.

“Hollywood’s a boys’ town and they will do what they have to do to keep their power, even if that means paying lip service for a while to stamping out misogyny,” the award-winning showrunner tells Deadline. “There are a lot of women staying quiet, worried that the boys are keeping a list for those who go public,” she added. “It’ll happen later, under the radar, a lot of it will be unspoken even, but careers will be sidetracked, promotions blocked, I just know it. That’s always been the way this town has worked.”

In regards to HC, I don't think retaliation is his reason for being quiet.

Yes, I read that too and it is telling. I don’t you don’t have to be in Hollywood to experience that kind of thing. However, I think the statement may apply to male actors too — whether they are witnesses or experienced the harassment first hand. I could almost see that even if a male actor says something, and if the person he accuses is well connected (or in a protected ring), then they might just keep quiet, or may even be advised by their agents or managers to keep quiet.

@ToniTurnyne said:

@Poetist said:

Toni, I think this paragraph is very telling.

“Hollywood’s a boys’ town and they will do what they have to do to keep their power, even if that means paying lip service for a while to stamping out misogyny,” the award-winning showrunner tells Deadline. “There are a lot of women staying quiet, worried that the boys are keeping a list for those who go public,” she added. “It’ll happen later, under the radar, a lot of it will be unspoken even, but careers will be sidetracked, promotions blocked, I just know it. That’s always been the way this town has worked.”

In regards to HC, I don't think retaliation is his reason for being quiet.

Yes, I read that too and it is telling. I don’t you don’t have to be in Hollywood to experience that kind of thing. However, I think the statement may apply to male actors too — whether they are witnesses or experienced the harassment first hand. I could almost see that even if a male actor says something, and if the person he accuses is well connected (or in a protected ring), then they might just keep quiet, or may even be advised by their agents or managers to keep quiet.

Of course! There is a high number of gay men who are in a position of power in Hollywood, and HC more than likely experienced some harassment. Some may even wonder did he partake or even succumb to it.