Discuss 90 Day Fiancé: Before the 90 Days

Here it is and what a delicious wreck this season looks to be.

2 obvious scammers. I think Ohio guy is choosing his partners too much by looks. He seems a decent guy and not bad looking. 2 divorces and now chasing a very plastic looking Colombian. Priorities, man.

Nigerian Prince, oh good lord. She seems a nice woman who is a softie, exactly what they look for. Will end badly.

Welcome back Darcy and Paul. Paul seems just as crazy and Darcy just as needy. What is up with Karine? Stuffed animals and sex toys? Jesse, just as creepy and controlling. Should be great TV!!

British guy, I hope this one works out. I like her. Preview didn't look promising, though.

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I am going to share this post with you from Realitytea. That site has a very active commentary on the 90 Day Fiance franchise. I think she has Jesse dead to rights:

Well, I think it's time to put my UCLA psychology degree to work. Jesse is on the spectrum of Cluster B personality disorders. He is a textbook covert narcissist with some classic and malignant traits thrown in for good measure. Jesse will always seek out a woman like Darcey because he revels in his sadistic exploitation of her weaknesses (her fragile self-worth). Her suffering and confusion actually gives him joy and nothing else in his life is quite as satisfying. He gaslights her and projects all his game playing onto her. I wouldn't be surprised if Jesse has some very serious "mommy" issues. Maybe his mom was not very available either emotionally or physically while he was growing up, thus his need to totally control, dominate, and punish an "older woman". He needs the world to see him as a victim in this relationship so you get the crocodile tears during the breakup. All of his "patient support" of Darcey is pure BS. But he absolutely CANNOT lose his "supply" so he will "Hoover" (suck back in like a vacuum cleaner) her with his "Love Bombing" and the cycle will repeat until she develops the strength to go "no contact". But I don't think Darcey is strong enough to break away and make no mistake, she has been carefully selected by Jesse as the perfect victim. Darcey is a selfish, huge pain in the ass but narcissists are so incredibly cruel that I wouldn't wish that level of suffering on anyone.

Another week of insanity. I am loving it.

Jesse van der Sloot earns his nickname again. OMG is he a sadistic bastard. I think he just wants to watch her suffer. I am not buying that honorable guy thing for a second. I have to do a slow clap for Darcy's commuter train outfit. Seriously, and all that luggage?

Michael and Angela, I will never get over the image of her plans for the frosting on that cake. It is getting down right uncomfortable to watch him walk on eggshells to avoid offending her. If he does make it to the US he is going to earn it dearly. I can hardly stand to listen to her talk. It is not relashaship, it is relationship! Learn how to speak proper English.

Rachel cries almost as much as Danielle. Not a good look. I think she can do better with the wedding dress selection. She may not be in the shape she wishes, but she is cute and that dress looked kind of frumpy on her.

Paul and Karine are going to reproduce. laughing : She is not going to divorce him, so I can't figure out her agenda here. She wanted marriage and a baby to keep him around and now she has it. She knows he is a neurotic nut case so why all the drama? Hormones?

Hazel ups her game and plays the L card. He bought it, it would seem. I think she is enjoying the lifestyle upgrade. Maybe that will be enough to make it work for them.

Ricky, Ricky, Ricky, I hope I am right that the entire storyline is fake. Ximena lives in Florida I guess, and there is plenty of shade out there that the Melissa thing was a set up by TLC. If he really is that much of a tool, just WOW is all I have to say for him.

@jonnieblack said:

I am going to share this post with you from Realitytea. That site has a very active commentary on the 90 Day Fiance franchise. I think she has Jesse dead to rights:

Well, I think it's time to put my UCLA psychology degree to work. Jesse is on the spectrum of Cluster B personality disorders. He is a textbook covert narcissist with some classic and malignant traits thrown in for good measure. Jesse will always seek out a woman like Darcey because he revels in his sadistic exploitation of her weaknesses (her fragile self-worth). Her suffering and confusion actually gives him joy and nothing else in his life is quite as satisfying. He gaslights her and projects all his game playing onto her.

Oh yes! I totally agree.

I wouldn't be surprised if Jesse has some very serious "mommy" issues. Maybe his mom was not very available either emotionally or physically while he was growing up, thus his need to totally control, dominate, and punish an "older woman".

We saw his mother, and they seem very close. I can't co-sign to this.

He needs the world to see him as a victim in this relationship so you get the crocodile tears during the breakup. All of his "patient support" of Darcey is pure BS. But he absolutely CANNOT lose his "supply" so he will "Hoover" (suck back in like a vacuum cleaner) her with his "Love Bombing" and the cycle will repeat until she develops the strength to go "no contact".

So true.

@jonnieblack said:

Another week of insanity. I am loving it.

Jesse van der Sloot earns his nickname again. OMG is he a sadistic bastard. I think he just wants to watch her suffer. I am not buying that honorable guy thing for a second. I have to do a slow clap for Darcy's commuter train outfit. Seriously, and all that luggage?

Darcy packed for that surprise engagement,

ring

elopement,

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and instant honeymoon.

island

A girl can't be too over prepared.

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Michael and Angela, I will never get over the image of her plans for the frosting on that cake.

Don't worry. There's not going to be any cake left over for any midnight rendezvous. She literally scooped out that cape with a spoon.

It is getting down right uncomfortable to watch him walk on eggshells to avoid offending her. If he does make it to the US he is going to earn it dearly. I can hardly stand to listen to her talk. It is not relashaship, it is relationship! Learn how to speak proper English.

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Paul and Karine are going to reproduce. laughing : She is not going to divorce him, so I can't figure out her agenda here. She wanted marriage and a baby to keep him around and now she has it. She knows he is a neurotic nut case so why all the drama? Hormones?

Someone posted on another board that she's pregnant w/twins, and I had no desire to click on the link.

Hazel ups her game and plays the L card. He bought it, it would seem. I think she is enjoying the lifestyle upgrade. Maybe that will be enough to make it work for them.

Ugh, did you not hear when she said her sister has a rich Japanese guy waiting for her in Japan?

Ricky, Ricky, Ricky, I hope I am right that the entire storyline is fake. Ximena lives in Florida I guess, and there is plenty of shade out there that the Melissa thing was a set up by TLC. If he really is that much of a tool, just WOW is all I have to say for him.

Supposedly, he's still married. The jury is still out on this one for me.

No luck quoting your responses, so here goes:

I liked Darcy's outfit, just not to wear on the commuter train. Too much volume in that coat for someone as petite as her, though. BTW, have you seen the ads for the new season of PR?

Yes, the cake didn't last long. Luckily for Michael! I hope we get to see his friends again.

Hazel is no dummy. She knew just when to bring that up about the competition.

I have also heard that Ricky was married and still living with his wife at the time he was in Colombia. Also that they have since separated. Don't know how true it is.

Speaking of online rumours, still lots of debate about Rachel's baby daddy. Supposedly the family of the one she is claiming is the father are posting online that she has cut him off from Lucy, and that this happened as soon as she met John. Another thread follows the John is the father theory. I don't follow any of these accounts, so I don't know. It seems more likely to me that John is the father, given how much involvement he has had in her life since her birth. In any case, plenty of posters claim to have seen evidence that they have been married the entire time the show has aired.

@jonnieblack said:

No luck quoting your responses, so here goes:

I liked Darcy's outfit, just not to wear on the commuter train. Too much volume in that coat for someone as petite as her, though. BTW, have you seen the ads for the new season of PR?

No.

Hazel is no dummy. She knew just when to bring that up about the competition.

Beggars can be choosers. Someone needs to tell Hazel that.

I have also heard that Ricky was married and still living with his wife at the time he was in Colombia. Also that they have since separated. Don't know how true it is.

I don't know about the rumors, because I would think Ricky's friends would not have agreed to be on the show. Remember, they were seen at the bar w/him and hoping he didn't have to leave the country for a woman?

Speaking of online rumours, still lots of debate about Rachel's baby daddy. Supposedly the family of the one she is claiming is the father are posting online that she has cut him off from Lucy, and that this happened as soon as she met John.

This makes most sense to me.

Another thread follows the John is the father theory. I don't follow any of these accounts, so I don't know. It seems more likely to me that John is the father, given how much involvement he has had in her life since her birth. In any case, plenty of posters claim to have seen evidence that they have been married the entire time the show has aired.

Don't believe it for a second. The shotty proof was next to nothing -- just speculation.

Apparently, Angela's family keep the police in business.

https://people.com/crime/90-day-fiance-daughter-scottie-deem-child-molestation/

@Poetist said:

Apparently, Angela's family keep the police in business.

https://people.com/crime/90-day-fiance-daughter-scottie-deem-child-molestation/

Oh my. I had heard about Angela's DUI, but not this. Michael haz way too much class for this sorry bunch.

@jonnieblack said:

@Poetist said:

Apparently, Angela's family keep the police in business.

https://people.com/crime/90-day-fiance-daughter-scottie-deem-child-molestation/

Oh my. I had heard about Angela's DUI, but not this. Michael haz way too much class for this sorry bunch.

Exactly.

Yeah, the DUI was known, but the daughter's messing w/kids?

No ma'am, Pam!

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More awfulness from Jesse van der Sloot. Twin Stacey has a completely plastic looking face. I have a horrible feeling that they are setting her up to star in season 3 of Before the 90 Days with her "boyfriend." I'm not sure I can stomach that. I wonder if she gets "citated" again? Where did these people learn English?

Tariq is an orgy guy, kill me now. Hazel swings both ways. That tell all was a mess and I don't believe a word that came out of brother Tariq's mouth. What a classless person.

So Ricky likes the mysterious types, with lots of drama? I see divorce #3 in the works for him. Soaking wet Ricky was not good look. So much eyestrain this episode.

Am I mistaken or did Rachel make it through an entire two hour episode without crying?

Angela needs a complete makeover, looks and personality, STAT. I can't imagine being in Michael's shoes. This one is almost as cringy as Mark and Nikki a couple of years ago.

@jonnieblack said:

More awfulness from Jesse van der Sloot. Twin Stacey has a completely plastic looking face. I have a horrible feeling that they are setting her up to star in season 3 of Before the 90 Days with her "boyfriend." I'm not sure I can stomach that. I wonder if she gets "citated" again? Where did these people learn English?

LOL.

OT: Why was the host rushing her? Seriously, was she on speed? I was like pump the brakes.

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Tariq is an orgy guy, kill me now. Hazel swings both ways. That tell all was a mess and I don't believe a word that came out of brother Tariq's mouth. What a classless person.

I agree. Plus, I doubt Hazel will reveal that to him in a 15 min. conversation.

So Ricky likes the mysterious types, with lots of drama? I see divorce #3 in the works for him. Soaking wet Ricky was not good look. So much eyestrain this episode.

LOL.

Angela needs a complete makeover, looks and personality, STAT. I can't imagine being in Michael's shoes.

I agree. Plus, he's right. She's very masculine to. the. extreme.

There you are!

Btw, I was not joking about Stacey. I would bet money that we see her on the show next season.

@jonnieblack said:

There you are!

Yeah, it took me a minute to finish this episode.

Btw, I was not joking about Stacey. I would bet money that we see her on the show next season.

Oh, I know you are not joking, and it wouldn't surprise me if Stacy would be the next American headed abroad for some fresh meat. Of course, I will be posted watching this.


It's surprising no one speaks too much about the stripper in love with the Muslim guy. I guess she never makes the trips. Hence, the reason why she was a late introduction to the series.

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