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Season 2 ended with Phil shot and on his way to Noregard, Sarah shot dead, and a science experiment in the cemetery, which failed to resurrect Elishia, but which did apparently push the boundary line back out. And there were some interesting minor cliffhangers as well.

Kate finally told Owen everything (after the cemetery science and death scene). He said he had to go get some air, stepped outside and we see him on the phone saying "hey mate it's Owen. Yeah yeah, I gotta talk to you". So who did he call? What was he going to tell him? Owen seems to be secretly spilling the beans on Kate, which cannot be good for her. Will this ruin their relationship? If so, will she hook up with her husband James again and take care of Sarah's baby?

Kirstie has a secret. Kirstie and Charlie went to the Royal. Kirstie got sick and vomited in the toilet, then put her hand to her tummy and said "oh fuck". So she is pregnant. But who is the father? Is it her boyfriend Kevin Brunner? Or is it the rapist Pete Rennix? As far as we know, she has not hooked up with anyone since she came back, so it would have to be one of those two guys.

The last scene shows William back at the cemetery blowing on that resurrection whistle thing, and the ground then showed that same pattern which was produced by the sound part of the experiment. Does that mean more people are going to arise in season 3?

Glitch has already checked the gay guy box with Charlie remembering his secret boyfriend from the war, and getting hit on by the aging gay bartender at the Royal. So we should expect season 3 will show Charlie with a love interest at some point.

Also, Phil is not dead, as everyone thought when Sarah shot him at the cemetery. Dr. Heysen took his body "for study", and James allowed it since reporting the death of Phil 2.0 and Sarah 2.0 might have led to interesing autopsy findings and questions nobody wanted to answer. Will Phil submit to testing at Norgard? Or will he escape and continue his campaign of killing the resurrected?

Also, why exactly did Phil, Vic, and Sarah immediately return to life, with memories intact, and a mission to kill all those who came back to life? They mentioned that there are rules, you're born, you live, and you die, in that order, and that breaking those rules upsets the natural order in some way. Will the writers elaborate on these issues or will they leave them shrouded in mystery?

I see there are only 6 episodes, so whatever they intend to show us, it won't take them long to do it.

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I know why they need the 3%. You will learn that once the group is inducted to the Off Shore. I have been binge-ing (not sure on spelling, is is binging or bingeing?) on the show and am into the second season, just finishing episode 5. I should take a break and let you catch up.

I have ordered some magnets for a project. I'm going to cut down on electricity usage, a little bit. You can take a small coil of copper wire (10 windings) and put it on or near a magnet and then connect two wires to the coil and use them to power a light bulb. I have seen other designs which generate much more power, but I think I will start with the small ones to power lamps about the house. I will work on more powerful units to power electric heaters for the winter time once I learn more about this. My furnace is out and I have been heating with wood in the winter.

I can go back and watch Bolivar for a bit. Let me know where you are with 3%.

I am on S2 Ep 3 - Fernando and Joana have left the facility. Michele has been discovered and turned (MAYBE) when Esequiel showed her her brother was alive. Rafael (looking a lot older) has not been discovered yet. Esequiel has made it look that Aline was the poisoner and she has been sent back to the offshore. There are a lot of shots showing the food luxury offshore compared to deep roast rat in the shantytown. They have been told they must be sterilized and all have agreed - except I think Michele who is somewhat of a special case. I am wondering about this - why would an elite group want the brats of the hoi polloi? I wonder where they are getting their food supplies from - who is working in the fields - tending the animals - doing the dusting? Joana has joined the Cause and shown the whereabouts of a symbol on a piece of paper - you would think that the people who lived in that hell hole would have noticed it as well before now. It's a note from their captured wooden faced leader, I don't think we know what it says yet. Not to be nosey - but do you live in a more rural area than me? It must have taken a fair amount of wood to keep you warm all winter. Do you cook on wood fuelled stoves as well? You know a lot about scientific stuff - left to me we would be in the dark!!

I did two degrees, pharmacy and chemistry. I never took anything related to electrician work and I truly wish that I had. I took a course in basic computer programming back in about 1982, and that's it. I was fascinated by magnets as a kid. I couldn't understand how they worked, and still don't really. But there is some resident energy within them, or they are able to tap energy from around them and use it. I don't know. I wanted to do an experiment with a curved bed of north magnets faces and then place a ball with all south facing magnets facing outward, and float it on the north bed. I never did that though. It would be a fun thing to do but would be a waste of money. I had one course in woodworking and loved it. I am interested in all the construction trades, but have no training or experience. I just pick up what I can. I love shopping for tools, and wish I had a lot of land so I could have several shops out back, wood working, metal working, a chemistry lab, a small nursery and a large garden, a mechanic shop for building and working on vehicles, and assorted projects. I would want an area for electrical stuff. I wish I had some CNC machines as well. And of course, a recording studio. I need to win the lottery so I can set all this up before I get too old. haha.

I live in the city with a modest home and lot. I buy loads of wood since my furnace died. And I use space heaters. My electric bill goes up in the winter. So I would love to get this magnet thing going. For the small stuff, like lighting lamps, I will have no problem I think. But building a device which generates much more energy will take some doing. We shall see. I get started on things and then need money, or special equipment, and then don't finish for a long time. So I don't know if I will get it done this year or not.

I am still ahead of you in 3%. Soon you will learn Ezequial's secret, the whole back story with that boy. You know now that the weird philosophy of the "elite" "we're better than everyone else" crowd includes a ban on procreation. They don't explain that since it makes no sense and there is no way they could do so. Anyway, for Ezeq to be caring for a boy is a big no no on the island. You've seen he has political opposition and there are people gunning for him. He has another secret too which you will soon learn. In fact you may have discovered it already depending on what you've seen since writing last.

How does all the work get done Off Shore? Since they are all elite and seem to spend their time in leisure it is a good question. They make a big deal of the advanced technology. and I did see some drones watering plants, so I suppose we are meant to think the tech. does most of the work for them.

I think things are really going to heat up between the elites and the inland folks soon. And I predict that the snobbish elites will be the losers in this battle.

In films and series with this theme - the elite living rich and using the poor to maintain their lifestyle - (what's new?) they usually end up with the poor storming the elite strongholds and taking over - and we are all supposed to cheer. What they don't show in this scenario is that once gaining entry to the palace the poor will turn it into a pig sty - so nobody wins. I will keep watching. I do hope you win the lottery so as you can achieve all your ambitions!! My hobbies are more ladylike - I am not your modern female airline pilot or mud wrestler! I make jewellery and key rings and suchlike. It's not so energy consuming as gardening which I can no longer do. My health is no longer good enough for physical exertion. I do miss growing all my fruit and veg and flowers though.

As the welfare state has grown and grown ever larger, so has the appeal of Marxist type 'hate the rich' themes in film media. And the young who learn this ideology and see it in positive terms have little to no experience in earning or providing for themselves. But if you suggest to students that it's unfair for some students to get good grades while others get failing grades, and further suggest all grades be averaged so that it's "fair", the good students begin to cry foul. In practice, Marxist ideas fall flat.

For the industrious person who works hard, plants a garden, learns a trade, or is otherwise productive, the unfairness of 'redistribution of wealth' is as obvious as sunlight. Telling that person that they must share the fruits of their labor equally with the sluggard is so obviously wrong that it needs no explaining. But the leftists never tell the truth about what their system will do, who they consider rich (which is everybody), and so on. They sell their idea through these stupid movies. And you're right; once the rabal takes ownership of the company, the palace, etc. they promptly ruin it. They know nothing of how to produce wealth, and care little for their possessions since they didn't have to earn them.

I am watching a bit more of Bolivar to let you catch up and pass me, then it's back to 3%

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I am learning a bit from this series Bolivar. At times it seems to drag a bit because of the development of characters, subplots, and so on, some of whom or which deal with Bolivar's youth, education, and marriage, and others which become more important to the story later in his life. I think they could have told the story in much less than 60 episodes. Bolivar wanted a united Hispanic America. He admired the American and French revolutions but he believed that a new government in South America would need to be more centrist, have a firmer hand in governing, and he favored a President for life, and an inherited Senate (as in Rome). To be fair, he did want some checks on Presidential power, but the idea of a President for life sounds a bit too much like a dictatorship. He thought the United States was a good place for a federal system of distributed power, but that the people of S. America were bound by the triple yoke of "ignorance, tyranny, and vice". He wanted a middle ground between dictatorship and anarchy, but he believed the people of Latin America needed a firm central government.

It is interesting to note that for a long time after his death in 1830 the countries of Latin America were dominated by dictatorships. (I believe that for free societies to exist, the people must be educated to understand and be quite familiar with the guiding principles of such societies. Sadly, such education has been lacking in America for decades.)

In the end Bolivar concluded that those who fought in the revolution had merely "plowed the sea". When a bad government is overthrown, there must be a plan for a good form of government to replace it. Things don't just get better all on their own.

The trouble is that most people just sit back and think "Oh - I'd like things to change but I can't do it - somebody else will have to". That is why minority groups get away with so much - and governments also - people always believe there is somebody out there who will change things - the only problem is that those people always have personal agendas which have nothing to do with the good of the majority. I am on S2 Ep 8 of 3%. I don't think I know who/what the 3% are yet - maybe I dozed off in that bit!! I have learned that Ezeq was the original mole for the Cause. That whole episode seemed a bit pointless to me seeing as what happened after. I don't know where you are at regarding Michele or the others so I can't say much. I had to laugh at Joana biting through that rope - it was thick enough to keep the Queen Mary moored ! and for somebody who wants to avoid notice she might consider dumping the red hoodie. So we know how Fernando became crippled. Oh that carnival scene - it went on and on and on and seemed to be an audition piece for that transvestite guy. We've had most of the boxes ticked now - gaydom (when it seemed to be a sexual free for all when they finished the process) physical disability - transvestism - we haven't had mental disablement yet (only mine - watching this stuff !!) I love the way that they walk about in rags until carnival time and then everybody has costumes and feathers and beads and streamers and bunting. As a practical person I don't understand why they are portrayed as living in a shanty town when there are perfectly suitable abandoned buildings they could decorate and live in in a civilised manner. Let me know what episode you are on now so as we can tear it all apart !!

I am into the 3rd series now. I had to ff through that carnival scene. It was too pointedly just a vehicle for "celebrating transgenderism", just like the girly-guy in the running for the coming "process". (You would think someone would have tried to be a bit more creative with the name for the testing and selection event, something which put some positive spin on it, not so general or generic in nature). Netflix, like all the media giants, features shows which tick the positive view of trans-genderism box. What of the huge increase in the risk of suicide by those who undergo gender reassignment surgery? You will never see any show which acknowledges the large number of transgender people who regret their surgery decision and wish to "de-transition" back to their birth gender. The message of these shows cannot deviate from the liberal pro trans propaganda.

"Michelle-ee" has always had her own agenda and has no problems sincerely lying to her comrades to advance it. Despite this huge character flaw, she is portrayed in a positive light, at least so far as I am in the series.

Yes, the 'inland' scenes are all of miserable people fighting for rats to eat, wearing threadbare and torn rags for clothing, and lucky if they don't have to live in cardboard boxes in alleyways. The symbolism in this show is all or nothing. And the carnival costumes, you're so right! Every one of those extremely poor people wears dirty gray rags every day, but they keep a set of very clean, shiny, colorful, festival clothing for celebrating diversity! I have to assume they also serve only the premium cuts of rat meat for the celebration. Of course their party clothes have that sparkly rag look, so we don't forget these are poor people. There were multi colored pieces of yarn or something attached to their brightly colored party clothes, so we didn't forget they were poor.

"Poverty, Diversity, Revolution! We're downtrodden victims but we are happy nonetheless because we have a superior social outlook; we celebrate diversity! We are simultaneously proud and happy, yet outraged that we are poor!"

Responsible? No, that doesn't go along with the image. If they took personal responsibility and showed initiative and industry, they would improve their living conditions; and then they could no longer be happy, proud, and outraged. I guess this is also why they choose to stay in shanty town digs instead of renovating the abandoned office buildings and other high rise, steel framed, concrete clad structures. They need to keep that bottom rung of poverty outlook, and a decent, safe dwelling would spoil the whole thing. Upward mobility is anathema to the revolutionary and the victim. If they did move into one of those buildings you can bet they would break the windows and haul some trash inside.

Personally I am getting very tired of film makers shoving LGBT issues down our throats - it is getting so boring and passe. For goodness sake even the founding couple were actually a white/black/ white menage - a - trois - was that brief scene at all necessary. And once again a woman with a gun is easily overpowered by two unarmed people. From the way Ezi winced when early doors were called on Marco I thought he had been cut in half at least. Once again we have the empowered evil female as his "mom". I am having trouble understanding the logic of all this - from what I gather - originally - 100 years ago - there were two islands - inland and offshore. Scientists were attempting to create a paradise on earth on the offshore island but it gets a bit murky for me here. There was some disaster or a war or something in the outer world and they were expecting an influx of refugees to come to the islands so the scientists were told to evacuate the offshore so as the elite could settle there - they disagreed and blew up the inland island leaving people as we see them. But - we only see three scientists - and even if there were a team of them why would they need to leave? And where did all the people come from who populated the offshore - were they the elite? Now Andre was imprisoned because he killed his mentor who saw the files the scientists left and was going to report it to the Council. But - if he was on the side of the offshore - why would they imprison him? They could easily make it out to be self defence. I still don't understand the sterilisation - why wouldn't the elite want to breed their own children? Who wants the offspring of trash? The idea of Fernando "smuggling" a radio into the prison area was a joke and I thought there was a jammer in operation anyway. I am not really enjoying this series as much as some of the others - I am finding it irritating but having come this far I will persevere.

The way I heard it the financiers of the Offshore called to say that the people at the inland city had used far too much water and the city was on a giant sinkhole and would be in ruins soon, something like that. So they called and said evacutate the Offshore, except for you three, and make room for the ones we are sending to you. Then the two scientists decided to upset their plans by destroying the...I am hazy on this part. I think I may be conflating it with the later plans of the Cause. But I think they wanted to destroy the financial records of the financiers with the disaster they created by overloading the system and causing a nuclear meltdown at the power plant (which caused an explosion?), and some electrical surge would destroy the digital financial records, something like that. The idea was that without the records the people funding the place would have no money to pay troops, something like that. There are plenty of holes in that whole idea of course. A meltdown doesn't result in a nuclear bomb, it just spews radiation constantly. Where are the people with radiation sickness? That place would still be contaminated 100 years later. It is one of those plot ideas that they run by us really fast so we don't have a lot of time to evaluate the logic of it, hoping we will just accept that it makes sense somehow.

So then the "founders" set up the idea of populating the Offshore with the best and brightest of the inland. They never offered a rationale for their sterilization requirement. I am guessing that is because the writers couldn't think of anything that would remotely make sense. But they needed a reason for continuing to bring people to the Offshore every year to replace the ones who died off, so they decided everyone would be sterilized. I know, it is a stupid idea. It's one of those things they hope we won't think about too much. I believe you're correct that this show was written for teens or dumb young adults, the unthinking ones with blank eyes who nod and say OK when you tell them a crazy plot idea. Anyway, I think the initial population was just the small team of scientists and they came up with the "process" to steal away the best of the Inland folks.

My impression is that the Inland is part of a continent, and the city is near the coast, and there is a desert area farther inland. Maybe the city with the sinkhole problem was the only one in the area, I don't know. If so, then it makes even less sense that the people had to go Offshore. Why not just move down the coast a little ways and rebuild? Michelle (they pronounce her name Michelle-ee) decided to locate in the desert area farther inland in the 3rd season, which you are probably watching by now.

Groans....!! It's all so murky and without any logic or explanation. The city we see now can't be the same one that used all the water and was due to collapse in ruins - they blew up that one up and in so doing they must have killed everybody in it and destroyed all the buildings given the size of that explosion. So where did the present city come from and why was it abandoned and by whom? I am sorry if I appear stupid - it's late and I am tired. I am at where Michele is appalled at her brother's attitude and has run off into the night. Their latest super idea is to destroy all the databases with their names on - this - they say will render the offshore folk powerless and the Cause will win. So - what do they think will happen when they are no longer registered - how about squads of soldiers picking up people who look about the right age and taking them back to the offshore using force to make it compulsory rather than voluntary. Why do they want them anyway - blow 'em all up and make your own brats !! I think the only plausible explanation for wanting them is for them to be a supply of healthy organs for transplantation.

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Have you seen the shell and the sandstorm yet? How could Michelle build a high tech desert oasis without factoring in desert sandstorms? Shouldn't the foil automatically retract under certain weather conditions? And now Joanna is intent on destroying the alternative to the Offshore. She hates it because it is better than what the Inland is like. "Someone has it better than the poor? Oh HELL no. Let's destroy what they have so they suffer like the Inland." That is so typically leftist. Instead of trying to copy what the successful people have, they want to make everyone else as miserable as they are, and claim it's justice. Socialism is based on jealousy and revenge against those who have more than others. It tears down the producers until they're in the same condition as the poor.

Joanna says in season 3 that the Inland will stay a shit-hole as long as the Offshore is there. Classic liberalism again. Blaming the successful people for their problems; if they weren't rich then I would make more money. But that is bullshit. The person who blames their plight on those better off won't make more money because they destroy what the industrious person has. Marxism is jealousy, not economics. I am getting really sick of this leftist message dressed up as justice.

Quite honestly this series has become a burden to watch. The characters are all so unsympathetic I don't really care what happens to any of them. There are too many questions they don't answer because they have no answers. I too am sick of these series that celebrate deviance and champion Liberalism. The only positive things about gays is that they don't add to the population and they are so promiscuous (by their own admission in documentaries I have watched - one guy said "Well - I am a man so I am naturally promiscuous - when you add gay to that you double the equation") that we have already had one plague associated with them - and the more they multiply the more does the probability of more sexual diseases becoming incurable - like gonorrhoea has become. They will eventually succumb to their own excesses. Oh have you read the news about Uganda reviving the "kill the gays" law ? You wait and see - they will now invent a new term "sexual refugee" and millions of black homosexuals will invade the shores of countries like yours and mine - as if we didn't have enough already. Uganda is being clever - like Castro when he came to power and emptied his prisons into America. What better way to rid your country of undesirables. As a matter of interest because I was curious about it I looked up the ethnic mix in Brazil this is what it said - According to the most recent estimates, 55% of Brazil's population are white; 38% are mixed white and black; and 5% are black. The remaining 1% is comprised of Japanese, Arab, and Amerindian groups. I don't this is represented in this series. I also read somewhere that Brazilian police round up street children who are never seen again - I don't know if this is true.

Update - OK so I have just watched S3 Ep1 and how can I phrase this - total boredom ensued. Joana has not only entered the shell but has been given a guided tour and a masterclass in how to disable/destroy their generator. Nobody is vetted - everybody is welcome - including terrorists it seems. Joana doesn't even pretend to have changed and Michele (who seems to have taken on the mantle of a saint with that sickly smile) doesn't chuck her out. That shell was built from desert sand in an amazingly short time because nobody has aged a day. Meanwhile back at the offshore - the rabble - led by girlboy - have invaded the facility demanding that the process continue - the security forces seem helpless against this bunch of vagabonds even though they have guns - they don't fire anything other than a warning shot. Michele - as usual - has the answer - the shell. It must have taken an army to build that thing - where did they get all the materials - the workforce - labourers are all very well but it also takes specialised knowledge and expertise. A few drones with some seeds - what about the earth to grow them in - not much grows in sand. And the collector - that wouldn't generate enough water for the entire population plus the agriculture and how convenient that the mechanism jammed just as it was needed. And wouldn't you think they would have had an alternative if this one failed for any reason. The shell is already built - all they need to do is replace the collector and replant but they act as if it is the end of everything. Fernando has jumped ship it seems - I can't say I blame him - maybe he got sick of the stupidity as well. Marco is saving children nowadays and has become a bit of a saint as well - I didn't see his epiphany but he must have had one somewhere along the line. Now - I seem to have nodded off again - because Michele is telling people that there are too many of them ( well yes - that tends to happen when "everybody is welcome signs" are put up) and that ten percent of them must leave. (She doesn't include herself in the tests that will decide this - not very Marxist - but then for somebody who hated Capitalism he left a "considerable fortune" to his daughter when he died - such a hypocrite) They cannot take the test if they still have the offshore communicators behind their ears but if they remove them and then fail the test they will have nowhere to go - What?! Why not take the test and those that pass remove the communicators - or would that be too logical for this pathetic writing. I don't understand (I am saying that too often) why some people are fighting to be a part of the process - and some are fighting to destroy it. They all come from the same place. What does Joana want? She wants to bring down the offshore and destroy the shell and then what? Everybody will be the same? Poverty stricken - starving - dressed in rags (unless it's carnival time) and struggling to survive with no hope of a decent future. That's some goal. As you can tell l am getting angry with this series and that does not bode well for completing it.

Joanna is the Marxist advocate in this show. "The reason we're poor and miserable is because other people are not. So we must destroy what they have".

You want to look for something else? Maybe we can stand to finish this show later on when we have had some time to recover from watching these idiots. Oh, I think Fernando died. Maybe the actor did himself in rather than continue being part of this show. And Marco starts to show his true colors again soon after the first episode.

I noticed there are a lot of Turkish shows with revenge as the basic theme. Let me go back and check out some of them and I'll give you some suggestions

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