Item: Bakemonogatari
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Type of Problem: Incorrect_content
Extra Details: Bakemonogatari has 15 episodes, as thetvdb season 1 (bakemonogatari) shows: https://thetvdb.com/series/monogatari
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Reply by Banana
on April 22, 2020 at 10:25 PM
Please use an alternative order if you want the three ONAs in the first season.
Reply by Hewell
on May 10, 2020 at 3:23 AM
Excuse me for reopen but there is to much people asking the same, I read the other closed post and I don't see than they had been answered.
Let me ask something, why don't you use the order show at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Monogatari_episodes or https://www.imdb.com/list/ls063368457/ ? What is your criteria or your source for rejecting this proposal?
As you see there, there is 14 or 11 seasons. Here we have four and with missing thing, as I see.
Thanks for your time.
Reply by Banana
on May 10, 2020 at 4:18 AM
@Hewell Take a closer look. They're not listed as seasons on Wikipedia. The TV guidelines are in the Bible: https://www.themoviedb.org/bible/tv Either use an order we already have for example this one or create a new one.
Reply by Hewell
on May 10, 2020 at 5:49 AM
Ok, ok, I'll read it, thanks for your answer.
EDITED: Anime - Original Order The main guidelines for animes are the same as with any other type of series. Our goal is to replicate how the TV series originally aired on their original network. The episodes of anime series should be in the exact order in which they originally aired in Japan. Furthermore, international releases of anime series often have episode orders, episode counts and season splits that are wildly different from the original Japanese release. International broadcast should not be used as templates for anime. As I see, this is an exception and there is many people talking about this exception.
EDITED2: after every I read in the bible, these 3 episodes aren't a special because isn't a standalone, story like others anime, they are part of the story line, and the others "seasons" are more tan 3 episodes so you can create one. "The answer lies with the original Japanese data."
"Episodes airing in a split cour format (e.g. Episodes 1-13, break, Episodes 14-26) are added in a single season. Examples: AKB0048. We strongly recommend using the official Japanese website. Databases such as anidb, MyAnimeList and Anime News Network, or trustworthy sources such as Syoboi can help you make informed decision, but they should be used with caution. And please keep in mind that every database has their own, unique guidelines."
15 episodes
12 episodes
Reply by Banana
on May 10, 2020 at 6:00 PM
You can see the original airing on TOKYO MX was only 12 episodes. Any episodes later released online, with the DVD release or a second broadcast is added as a special. These guidelines apply to all series.
Reply by Hewell
on May 11, 2020 at 4:19 AM
Well, after all my explain I only could say than you do what you want, not what guidelines said. I said bye to this plataform. Thanks for your time.
Reply by Ascentw
on May 11, 2020 at 11:21 AM
Hi, I was just reading the arguments between you guys. I understand what you are saying, but what I have to say in the end is: if someday somehow this rules have a exception or anything, the best way for the anime users is having bakemonogatari (and others) with the "supposed to be" number of episodes. Maybe if the specials was reffering only to the bakemonogatari, it would be kinda better, but having such a big series with all the specials in one place is just... A mess. I remember I used tmbd as source on emby, and spending like 4 hours trying to "fix" my libraries because it was all different.
In the end: "rules are rules" -Ginrou But even him changed his mind when it comes to makes things better for every/someone
Reply by Banana
on May 11, 2020 at 4:37 PM
This is exactly why there are episodes groups available to anyone who prefer to use an alternative order.