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I got to thinking again about the episode "The Savage Curtain," and how... something... the Surak character was about Spock displaying emotion. Like, "Well how could you not display emotion, when you thought you saw someone as great as ME?"

Always gives me a chuckle.

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@wonder2wonder : Kirk and T'Pring together in ANY timeline? Please don't give the writers any ideas!

@PikeAdmirer said:

@Knixon : First Contact did no such thing! In that movie it was quite clear that Zefram Cochrane invented Warp Drive. The Vulcans were just the first ET race humans met after Cochrane successfully used Warp Drive.

But the Vulcans had come to Earth using warp drive. In "Metamorphosis" it's clear that Cochrane discovered warp drive for EVERYONE, not just Earth. Because if Vulcan had it already, Spock would not have said what he said about Cochrane.

@sunshine62 said:

by knix:

So T'Pring likely would have picked whoever Spock brought along, rather than risk losing Stonn.

Good thing Spock's parents didn’t turn up. I don’t think they were aware that T'Pring was going to dump their son, Spock.

”And while T'Pau gave Kirk an "out' since he wasn’t Vulcan

Yes but she omitted the fact that the challenge was to the death. She should have mentioned it.

Early on, Kirk said that Vulcans used to kill for their mates. Maybe he should have remembered that when they beamed down, and T'Pring issued the challenge.

@sunshine62 said:

Ciao wonder2wonder !

you wrote:

I'll be watching "The Bold and the Beautiful" and other soap dramas to see what other ideas the writers might come up with in NuTrek.It would be interesting if in an alternate time line or dream Kirk andT'Pring were linked in some kind of way and that explained why she chose him in "Amok Time

Not funny wonder2wonder. angry

These writers have no respect for those who have loved TOS since the 70s.

Initially, they made us believe that Michael Burnham was going to be a new timeline line; instead, in the end, it became part of the original timeline.

I went to check something about Spock and I saw with horror that all his personal info now has been contaminated by all of that SNW bull$hit

Spock in TOS didn’t have a story with Chapel, and T’Pring was the one who was unfaithful and dumped him.

Instead, in SNW we get a whole rewrite about Spock’s involvement with T’Pring and Chapel years before the TOS episode Amok Time (which is one of my all-time favourites)

Yes the writers have turned Spock's life into a soap opera .. JJ Abrams' crap series was bad enough but at least it played in a different timeline.

And the dyslexia etc.

I got a kick outta the way Yarnek introduced the baddies. Clicking the two hooks together!

And see my previous postings on Pine Greene!

by knix:

Early on, Kirk said that Vulcans used to kill for their mates. Maybe he should have remembered that when they beamed down, and T'Pring issued the challenge.

Well the keywords are used to kill. Kirk didn't forget. He just thought that, being so logical, Vulcans resolved problems, including those involving amorous relationships, with reason.

I wonder how Kirk would have decided had he known it was to the death?

We know Kirk did not believe in no-win scenarios

But at the same time, when Kirk accepted, he was not aware that Bones had that neuroparalyzer shot that ultimately saved the day.

@sunshine62 : Good comment!

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