Item: A Good Girl's Guide to Murder
Language: en-US
Type of Problem: Incorrect_content
Extra Details: Release Date for Eps 1 and 2 should be 01-Jul-2024 like the others, not 10-Jul-2024
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Reply by Davidal
on July 1, 2024 at 3:43 PM
Hello! Episodes should be added exactly as they first aired on the original network, in this case BBC Three. Both episodes will be available on Wed 10 Jul 2024 according to the official website.
Reply by Jim Stark
on July 1, 2024 at 4:01 PM
Airdates for eps. 3-6 probably need to be locked until they are announced by Three.
Reply by Davidal
on July 1, 2024 at 4:07 PM
Done! Feel free to re-open this report or create a new one once air dates for the rest of the episodes are announced.
Reply by neri2345
on July 1, 2024 at 4:15 PM
Is this functionality only for when they air on live television? Because all episodes are already available for streaming on BBC iplayer since the release on 01-Jul-2024
Reply by Davidal
on July 1, 2024 at 4:27 PM
I think this has to do with a rule called "digital preview", check this. We usually ignore digital previews for regular television series. On TMDB, the term "digital preview" for TV shows aired on regular TV means it was released digitally prior to the scheduled linear air date.
Reply by neri2345
on July 1, 2024 at 5:10 PM
This feels strange to me, but it makes sense to have a blanket policy like this - though I think it might be a little outmoded by the fact that I think most people will watch it on streaming rather than on regular TV nowadays (I believe IMDB has the digital preview dates too).
Another point that isn't relevant to this project, but rather to ones that rely on this database for watch progress tracking, is that this policy makes it impossible to mark an episode as watched if seen in the digital preview if it officially "hasn't been released yet"… however that is more an issue for downstream projects rather than TMDB itself.
Thanks for the clarification!
Reply by jumpingjellyfish
on July 2, 2024 at 10:05 AM
I am not sure this qualifies as a digital preview: the rule says "usualy ignore" (not "always") and the examples given seem to relate to genuine previews where, each episode is released online before airing, especially pilots.
In this case the show was released released on 1 July 2024 on BBC iPlayer in the UK, Stan in Australia and ThreeNow in New Zealand, all digital platforms.
Wouldn't it make sense to treat it as a Netflix release? The BBC themselves says the show was adapted from the novel "for BBC Three and iPlayer".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/m0020bv6/a-good-girls-guide-to-murder?seriesId=m0020bv7 https://www.stan.com.au/watch/a-good-girls-guide-to-murder https://www.threenow.co.nz/shows/a-good-girl%2527s-guide-to-murder/1717557102898
Reply by superboy97
on July 2, 2024 at 10:57 AM
If the series is broadcasted on regular TV (which is the case here on BBC Three), we always follow the dates of that regular TV release.
Reply by jumpingjellyfish
on July 7, 2024 at 4:14 AM
Understood. Under what circumstances would we reconsider this?
That rule made sense when broadcast was the norm and VOD was niche and mostly seen as catch up TV.
When VOD audience numbers outstrip broadcast and the BBC themselves aim to be a digital-first organisation, it may make sense to rethink the approach.
If the iplayer episode release was staggered, in the same weeks as they went to air, fair enough.
But when they decided to release the whole series Netflix-style in a single day, I'd say they clearly think VOD is the new regular.