Wow.

@znexyish said:

I was not too keen on the finale but tuned in. As soon as the phone call telling Shamy that they won the Noble came in I turned off the show as I did not like that stupid storyline at all. Of course I shortly tuned back in out of curiosity and knowing that if not I will have nothing to talk about here. And off again and back on. I was excited when Leonard was going to slap Sheldon then he didn't then he did but I didn't see it.

If you hadn't been turning the TV off and on, that would have made a lot more sense.

I saw Penny get off the now working elevator, but working for no apparent reason.

Penny said "they fixed the elevator." Did you need to see scaffolding and workmen wandering around for several episodes?

More stuff happened. They go to Stockholm. Raj gets creepy again and rummages through Buffy's purse who like the elevator is there for what reason I don't know.

Raj really adored/admired her, and so did Leonard in a way. Remember when he was excited to watch the series with Penny, because he thought she would enjoy it too? And she did! Also it gave the show one more cameo in the final episode, to go alone with the previous Shatner, etc.

More stuff happens. Sheldon is extra jerky. Penny is preggers but why? Why????

Google search "birds and bees." Also, it was explained what happened: when Penny was out with Sheldon, and playing her drinking game etc, she got a bit tipsy, and when she came back home she asked Leonard "Do you wanna?" and they did, apparently "unwrapped" as they said. "Preggers" is a known risk from that.

Anyways I couldn't sit through Sheldon's sappy speech. And Haley falls down the stairs and breaks a tooth ??? What???? Then a solo acoustic version of the show song.

What did you like and dislike or what puzzled you.

I thought it was good that Penny ends up pregnant because it ties back to the start of the show - "Our babies will be smart AND beautiful!" - although I have no doubt the cries of outrage will be coming from those who wanted Penny to remain "happily" child-less to somehow justify their own positions.

Likes and dislikes, hmmm.... Well, I really did like the finale overall. I do agree that the Nobel Prize was won too quickly, and that really the whole storyline felt rushed and unrealistic. I know they had to speed things up to make it work for the finale, but my suggestion (since Chuck Lorre just called me and asked what he should have done) is that they should have scrapped the storyline of that other project that the military ended up taking (what was that a gyroscope or something?) and just started the asymmetry storyline back then and built it up for a couple of years, making us invested in it and hoping for a win by the finale. With that said, them winning the prize in the finale still brought a bit of mist to my eyes.

As for Penny being pregnant (I think the word preggers sounds like Prego, the sub-par Italian pasta sauce), while it did not bother me (in fact it made me happy), I also understand why it did bother others. It would have been better received (in either direction) had they not made Penny waffle.

As for my main likes, I liked seeing them take the stairs in the apartment building (like actually seeing them walk all the way down to the bottom), I liked seeing the Cheesecake factory again, I liked getting to see the Wolowitz babies, and then later in the "Unraveling" special I liked getting to see Howard's impressions and the time when a robot grabbed his wiener.

Also, next time you're watching a finale, could you please invite me over to watch it with you? I'm going to hide your remote control.

The single biggest problem with using what turned into the gyroscope etc, is that Leonard thought of it, not Sheldon.

@Knixon said:

The single biggest problem with using what turned into the gyroscope etc, is that Leonard thought of it, not Sheldon.

I said to scrap that storyline and replace it with the asymmetry storyline.

I don't know if they were thinking at that point, about actually having Sheldon win the Nobel by the end of the series. Especially since there's really not much chance it could happen even THAT quickly, let alone just in the last 2 seasons/years. From what I've read, most Nobel winners did the work that they eventually win the prize for, DECADES earlier; and a significant number of them die (presumably of old age) before actually getting the award. This was mentioned in the Young Sheldon episode too, where little Sheldon thinks the Nobel should go to the people who discovered neutrinos, 30-something years earlier.

With the bit about change being the only thing that stays the same, Penny and Sheldon came so close to a David Bowie moment and then backed away from it.

How long before they end up with a second Nobel for quantum cognition? We'll never know.

All in all I loved the finale. They ended on a happy note on just about every front: Shamy got the Nobel Prize. The elevator got fixed. Sheldon went through his "change" hissy fit and finally came out the other side for once. The Wallowitz kids have finally been shown as lovely toddlers. Penny's pregnant. Sheldon finally gave his friends credit for all the support they give to him, and in his acceptance speech no less.

But he told his Mama that the DNA model was for a silicone-based life form and now he tells Leonard it's for an advanced form of human. So is that Horta Man?

I wouldn't be surprised if Sheldon believed that turning people into silicon-based life forms would be a huge improvement. Add just a little germanium (not geranium, which is a flower) or something, and people become solar-powered, not needing to bother with food any more! Sheldon would LOVE that.

The super-asymmetry story line is of course made up, but quantum cognition has the additional flaw - or some might think it's a benefit - of being total horse-hockey. Even if they somehow "proved" that it's what we think that creates the universe, that "proof" would of necessity be absolute twaddle. It's what I referred to in high school as an "arm-waving proof." Like when kids from the advanced calculus class would "prove" that all numbers are really the same number, because odd numbers are even, because 6 is an even number but it's an odd number of legs for a horse, blah blah blah... and then waving their arms saying "But don't you SEE??? (how clever I am?)" Hence my name for it, "arm-waving proof."

@Lemons said:

Likes and dislikes, hmmm.... Well, I really did like the finale overall. I do agree that the Nobel Prize was won too quickly, and that really the whole storyline felt rushed and unrealistic. I know they had to speed things up to make it work for the finale, but my suggestion (since Chuck Lorre just called me and asked what he should have done) is that they should have scrapped the storyline of that other project that the military ended up taking (what was that a gyroscope or something?) and just started the asymmetry storyline back then and built it up for a couple of years, making us invested in it and hoping for a win by the finale. With that said, them winning the prize in the finale still brought a bit of mist to my eyes.

As for Penny being pregnant (I think the word preggers sounds like Prego, the sub-par Italian pasta sauce), while it did not bother me (in fact it made me happy), I also understand why it did bother others. It would have been better received (in either direction) had they not made Penny waffle.

As for my main likes, I liked seeing them take the stairs in the apartment building (like actually seeing them walk all the way down to the bottom), I liked seeing the Cheesecake factory again, I liked getting to see the Wolowitz babies, and then later in the "Unraveling" special I liked getting to see Howard's impressions and the time when a robot grabbed his wiener.

Also, next time you're watching a finale, could you please invite me over to watch it with you? I'm going to hide your remote control.

Lemons please don't put pennies in your waffles. You might chip a tooth although the copper could balance your something or another. Now you could make a Penny shaped waffle. That would be neat.

When did they go to the Cheesecake factory?

One more thing I could have done without was Amy's cheesy girl power speech. She sounded like the fifth Spice Girl, Prairie Spice. Nothing against girls in the sciences but is that something that anyone would say at an awards ceremony ? Amy should have said "I won. I won. Now give me my tiara

She could then follow up with "And to all the young girls out there you too can marry and spend your life with a grade A controlling weirdo like I have, and I have the "agreements" to prove it"

Also the setting at the Noble speech ceremony was chintzy, like it was done in a high school auditorium in front of a bunch of mannequins.

@znexyish said:

When did they go to the Cheesecake factory?

One more thing I could have done without was Amy's cheesy girl power speech. She sounded like the fifth Spice Girl, Prairie Spice. Nothing against girls in the sciences but is that something that anyone would say at an awards ceremony ? Amy should have said "I won. I won. Now give me my tiara

She could then follow up with "And to all the young girls out there you too can marry and spend your life with a grade A controlling weirdo like I have, and I have the "agreements" to prove it"

Also the setting at the Noble speech ceremony was chintzy, like it was done in a high school auditorium in front of a bunch of mannequins.

First of all, look how I quoted parts of both of your posts above in one place. When the group America was singing "You Can Do Magic", they were talking about me.

They went to the Cheesecake Factory in the scene where Sheldon and Penny are there and Sheldon is upset about change and she says she'll take a drink every time he says change and then later she implies the bartender would spit in his drink which kept having increasing percentages of rum in it. She mentioned she used to work that bar and there were waitresses in the background wearing Cheesecake Factory garb.

I laughed aloud at your "Prairie Spice". However, she would have been the sixth spice, unless you killed one off without my knowing, you stealthy spice-doer-away-wither.

I also laughed aloud at what you thought Amy should have said instead- that part about the Grade A controlling weirdo.

Finally, I guess I agree that the set for the Nobel speech was slightly cheesy, but it was OK. It has been years since I won mine, but I do remember it being a bit nicer.

What I want to know now is, what did you think of Amy's fancy award-acceptance dress? I shall withhold comment until I see your response.

@Lemons said:

@znexyish said:

When did they go to the Cheesecake factory?

One more thing I could have done without was Amy's cheesy girl power speech. She sounded like the fifth Spice Girl, Prairie Spice. Nothing against girls in the sciences but is that something that anyone would say at an awards ceremony ? Amy should have said "I won. I won. Now give me my tiara

She could then follow up with "And to all the young girls out there you too can marry and spend your life with a grade A controlling weirdo like I have, and I have the "agreements" to prove it"

Also the setting at the Noble speech ceremony was chintzy, like it was done in a high school auditorium in front of a bunch of mannequins.

First of all, look how I quoted parts of both of your posts above in one place. When the group America was singing "You Can Do Magic", they were talking about me.

They went to the Cheesecake Factory in the scene where Sheldon and Penny are there and Sheldon is upset about change and she says she'll take a drink every time he says change and then later she implies the bartender would spit in his drink which kept having increasing percentages of rum in it. She mentioned she used to work that bar and there were waitresses in the background wearing Cheesecake Factory garb.

I laughed aloud at your "Prairie Spice". However, she would have been the sixth spice, unless you killed one off without my knowing, you stealthy spice-doer-away-wither.

I also laughed aloud at what you thought Amy should have said instead- that part about the Grade A controlling weirdo.

Finally, I guess I agree that the set for the Nobel speech was slightly cheesy, but it was OK. It has been years since I won mine, but I do remember it being a bit nicer.

What I want to know now is, what did you think of Amy's fancy award-acceptance dress? I shall withhold comment until I see your response.

Vodka.

Also, when Amy asked Raj "Am I really that frumpy?" I was yelling YES!!!!!!!!!

Also, why the heck was she wearing a tiara? It made her look ridiculous (along with that hideous dress)!

Well, Sheldon gave her the tiara years/seasons ago, as kind of an apology for his usual being a jerk. But I don't know if ANY style of clothes could actually make Mayim look GOOD.

@Lemons said:

@znexyish said:

When did they go to the Cheesecake factory?

One more thing I could have done without was Amy's cheesy girl power speech. She sounded like the fifth Spice Girl, Prairie Spice. Nothing against girls in the sciences but is that something that anyone would say at an awards ceremony ? Amy should have said "I won. I won. Now give me my tiara

She could then follow up with "And to all the young girls out there you too can marry and spend your life with a grade A controlling weirdo like I have, and I have the "agreements" to prove it"

Also the setting at the Noble speech ceremony was chintzy, like it was done in a high school auditorium in front of a bunch of mannequins.

First of all, look how I quoted parts of both of your posts above in one place. When the group America was singing "You Can Do Magic", they were talking about me.

They went to the Cheesecake Factory in the scene where Sheldon and Penny are there and Sheldon is upset about change and she says she'll take a drink every time he says change and then later she implies the bartender would spit in his drink which kept having increasing percentages of rum in it. She mentioned she used to work that bar and there were waitresses in the background wearing Cheesecake Factory garb.

I laughed aloud at your "Prairie Spice". However, she would have been the sixth spice, unless you killed one off without my knowing, you stealthy spice-doer-away-wither.

I also laughed aloud at what you thought Amy should have said instead- that part about the Grade A controlling weirdo.

Finally, I guess I agree that the set for the Nobel speech was slightly cheesy, but it was OK. It has been years since I won mine, but I do remember it being a bit nicer.

What I want to know now is, what did you think of Amy's fancy award-acceptance dress? I shall withhold comment until I see your response.

Lemons do you really want me to go back and watch the whole finale again without interruption ? Then I could comment better but you will have to keep the remote and even keep me away from the set itself.

I am sorry that I don't remember all the Spice Girls or that I remember the Spice Girls at all. You will be happy to know that when Spice World came out I took my nieces and their friends out to see it. That movie had a worse ending that this show.

Okay Amy had a dress. Is that okay. It was reel purty. (that means real pretty in old-timey talk)

And really Lemon Spice. How many times did Sheldon get upset about not liking change. Like a million times already. Literally.
He should have gone to Bozeman instead of Stockholm.

@znexyish said:

ONE.Lemons do you really want me to go back and watch the whole finale again without interruption ? Then I could comment better but you will have to keep the remote and even keep me away from the set itself.

TWO. I am sorry that I don't remember all the Spice Girls or that I remember the Spice Girls at all. You will be happy to know that when Spice World came out I took my nieces and their friends out to see it. That movie had a worse ending that this show.

THREE. Okay Amy had a dress. Is that okay. It was reel purty. (that means real pretty in old-timey talk)

FOUR.And really Lemon Spice. How many times did Sheldon get upset about not liking change. Like a million times already. Literally.
He should have gone to Bozeman instead of Stockholm.

I have taken the liberty of adding numbers to your sentences above so as to very concisely and precisely answer them.

1.Perhaps what you could do is go back and watch the parts you cut off before, and cut it off during the parts you watched before, so that you will have watched the whole thing by the end of it. And while you do that I'll raid your pantry. Do you have any cheese-filled combos? They really cheese your hunger away.

2.My favorite spice is nutmeg. Short for nutmegan.

3.Well, that was right nice of you to say.

4.Bozeman makes me think of speakers. Isn't Boze a brand of speaker? And Bozo is a brand of clown.