@Knixon said:

@FormerlyKnownAs said:

@Knixon said:

Nobody in the movie "Idiocracy" thought anything was wrong, either.

How about some "context" to go with that statement

The best context is probably to see the movie.

In that case, I'll settle for the next best context.

@CalabrianQueen said:

@censorshipsucks06 said:

@censorshipsucks06 said:

@FormerlyKnownAs said:

@znexyish said:

This board and the old board seemed to me to have more Star Trek and DC/Marvel aficionados. Just curious if anyone here gives a crap. Each of the new Disney SW movies always stir up a Wookies worth of trouble. Do you dress up like a Storm Trooper in your off hours or do you think it is just Babylon 5 with more money?

Well...

These purveyors of sci-fi wonderfulness are in the entertainment business; not in the academic pursuits business. These constant-criticizers who bitch, moan, and groan about "what they didn't do" and/or, about “HOW they should have done what they did do" would do well to remember that.

These constant-criticizers, who have never made a dollar with a movie or TV show (OR ever made a movie or TV show, for that matter) are laughable--sitting on their high-horse, looking down their nose at the folks who have made multi-multi-multi billions AND entertained the masses.

That's a weak reply and a cop out way of debating a point. I don't have to win MASTERCHEF to know when a chef overcooks my steak. I don't have to be Derek Jeter to know when an IF makes an error - and it's not a requirement that I have acted (which I have) or be in a movie (which I have) or directed and or produced a film to have an opinion on the Star Wars franchise. To sit back and not engage the topic, and simply say "You've never done that" , as if that invalidates any point made here by anyone, is elementary school yard debate tactics.

Just because something makes millions or billions does not equal "quality". There's plenty of commercially successful films that are complete trash. Likewise there are myriad of films that didn't make millions, let alone billions, that are absolutely wonderful.

Do you have any response to any of the critical posts about Star Wars? Or is all we get "You can't talk about it because you haven't made millions in the film industry" ?

Try on that shoe for size.

I believe its called the Appeal to Authority fallacy, in other words , either my expertise makes me correct or someone else's expertise makes them infallible.

But I always remember the quote "If experts say it can't be done, find new experts".

Funny…

I just used this quote ( slightly different wording) in a post on another Board last week.

It’s attributed to David Ben-Gurion: "If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert."

It applicable in so many situations; especially around folks who are always throwing-up-road-blocks.

@FormerlyKnownAs said:

@censorshipsucks06 said:

@censorshipsucks06 said:

@FormerlyKnownAs said:

@znexyish said:

This board and the old board seemed to me to have more Star Trek and DC/Marvel aficionados. Just curious if anyone here gives a crap. Each of the new Disney SW movies always stir up a Wookies worth of trouble. Do you dress up like a Storm Trooper in your off hours or do you think it is just Babylon 5 with more money?

Well...

These purveyors of sci-fi wonderfulness are in the entertainment business; not in the academic pursuits business. These constant-criticizers who bitch, moan, and groan about "what they didn't do" and/or, about “HOW they should have done what they did do" would do well to remember that.

These constant-criticizers, who have never made a dollar with a movie or TV show (OR ever made a movie or TV show, for that matter) are laughable--sitting on their high-horse, looking down their nose at the folks who have made multi-multi-multi billions AND entertained the masses.

That's a weak reply and a cop out way of debating a point. I don't have to win MASTERCHEF to know when a chef overcooks my steak. I don't have to be Derek Jeter to know when an IF makes an error - and it's not a requirement that I have acted (which I have) or be in a movie (which I have) or directed and or produced a film to have an opinion on the Star Wars franchise. To sit back and not engage the topic, and simply say "You've never done that" , as if that invalidates any point made here by anyone, is elementary school yard debate tactics.

Just because something makes millions or billions does not equal "quality". There's plenty of commercially successful films that are complete trash. Likewise there are myriad of films that didn't make millions, let alone billions, that are absolutely wonderful.

Do you have any response to any of the critical posts about Star Wars? Or is all we get "You can't talk about it because you haven't made millions in the film industry" ?

Try on that shoe for size.

Who died and left you Lord and Master when it comes to determining the substance of how someone debates a point?

I could ask you the same thing. I was replying to your post about how you feel points are invalid due to 'not making millions' in the industry. Pot - meet Kettle.

If we followed your 'rule' - these boards would be void of anything other than gushing posts of admiration.

@CalabrianQueen said:

@censorshipsucks06 said:

@censorshipsucks06 said:

@FormerlyKnownAs said:

@znexyish said:

This board and the old board seemed to me to have more Star Trek and DC/Marvel aficionados. Just curious if anyone here gives a crap. Each of the new Disney SW movies always stir up a Wookies worth of trouble. Do you dress up like a Storm Trooper in your off hours or do you think it is just Babylon 5 with more money?

Well...

These purveyors of sci-fi wonderfulness are in the entertainment business; not in the academic pursuits business. These constant-criticizers who bitch, moan, and groan about "what they didn't do" and/or, about “HOW they should have done what they did do" would do well to remember that.

These constant-criticizers, who have never made a dollar with a movie or TV show (OR ever made a movie or TV show, for that matter) are laughable--sitting on their high-horse, looking down their nose at the folks who have made multi-multi-multi billions AND entertained the masses.

That's a weak reply and a cop out way of debating a point. I don't have to win MASTERCHEF to know when a chef overcooks my steak. I don't have to be Derek Jeter to know when an IF makes an error - and it's not a requirement that I have acted (which I have) or be in a movie (which I have) or directed and or produced a film to have an opinion on the Star Wars franchise. To sit back and not engage the topic, and simply say "You've never done that" , as if that invalidates any point made here by anyone, is elementary school yard debate tactics.

Just because something makes millions or billions does not equal "quality". There's plenty of commercially successful films that are complete trash. Likewise there are myriad of films that didn't make millions, let alone billions, that are absolutely wonderful.

Do you have any response to any of the critical posts about Star Wars? Or is all we get "You can't talk about it because you haven't made millions in the film industry" ?

Try on that shoe for size.

** I believe its called the Appeal to Authority fallacy, in other words , either my expertise makes me correct or someone else's expertise makes them infallible.**

But I always remember the quote " If experts say it can't be done, find new experts".

Thanks for putting a name to it. THE APPEAL TO AUTHORITY FALLACY. I like that.

On his radio show, Dennis Miller would sometimes quote Mark Twain. "An expert is an ordinary fellow from another town."

This exchange came to mind while reading these comments.

Leonard: You hate Babylon 5.

Sheldon: I do. It fails as drama, science fiction, and it's hopelessly derivative. But you like it, and you're my friend.

Leonard: Okay, great. Still not taking you to Switzerland.

• The Large Hadron Collision

I wonder if Sheldon thought B5 was deriviative of DS9. Because if he did, he had it exactly backwards.

All of these space shows or sci-fi dramas or whatever you want to call them follow the same template anyways. A ship, a crew, a captain, friendly aliens, unfriendly aliens, the main cast who have all the fun and adventure while everyone else on the ship is barely seen, some kind of federation or political organization in the background, etc. Honestly I could not tell you the difference between some of them.
Now Dr. Who, he had a time travelling phone booth which I suppose "The Notebook"s time travelling mail box was deriviative of. I might be wrong about the details here.

But just calling it a phone booth, doesn't really make it different from any other time machine or space ship or time ship or whatever. Especially since it apparently CAN'T be used for actually making phone calls.

@Knixon said:

But just calling it a phone booth, doesn't really make it different from any other time machine or space ship or time ship or whatever. Especially since it apparently CAN'T be used for actually making phone calls.

All righty then. A proper English phone booth not to be confused with Superman's Metropolis phone booth. Nowadays one would need a time travelling smart phone as phone booths are near to extinct these days, whether of the time and space travelling or superhero clothes changing type.

Of course, there's that one bit in one of the original (Christopher Reeve) Superman movies where he runs up to a "phone booth" and it's the type that isn't fully enclosed... funny.

But the time-traveling phone booth/police call box (I think it actually was) showing up in caveman times or in the 25th century or on another planet... it was all pretty dumb, really.

@Knixon said:

Of course, there's that one bit in one of the original (Christopher Reeve) Superman movies where he runs up to a "phone booth" and it's the type that isn't fully enclosed... funny.

But the time-traveling phone booth/police call box (I think it actually was) showing up in caveman times or in the 25th century or on another planet... it was all pretty dumb, really.

Yes it is a police call box. Now it is time travel after all. So utter nonsense. Then there is the going to sleep for a long time whether Rip Van Winkle, Sleeper, Idiocracy, or going into space a long way and coming back as in Interstellar, some Star Trek episodes or movie, etc. Seems there are so many ways to travel around in space and time. And lets not forget Bill and Ted's phone booth.

No wait it isn't police call box. Its a Tardis. Wonder what happened to the one Howard bought.

Well yes, it's "really" a TARDIS (all caps since it's an acronym, after all) but it appears as a police call box "outside." Problem is, it appears as a mid-20th-century-London police call box no matter where or when it goes. B5 never really made that mistake, even though B4 went back in time 1000 years.

Didn't that TARDIS end up for sale at the Wolowitz garage sale?

Amy turned it into the entrance to her bedroom, for one episode. To "motivate" Sheldon. Which, needless to say, didn't accomplish anything. Since then it hasn't been seen again.