I thought we were done with this topic but now that Kaepernick has his book deal maybe the issue if done with

If his book sells as badly as Hillary's, that might be a message too. I suppose there might be a lot of football fans that might buy the book anyway but then again, maybe not. Do they even read?

The thing is, that's not going to be a 'football' book. It's going to be the political ramblings of a fool who complains about oppression and states he want "freedom for all people" all the while wearing a Fidel Castro t-shirt, and defending a man who's entire method of operation was OPPRESSION - OPPRESSION - OPPRESSION.

The biggest problem with Colin Kaepernick is he's an idiot. When challenged about wearing the Castro shirt, he lied and said it was a "Malcom X" shirt. Uh - Colin - it had Malcom AND FIDEL on the shirt. If you wanted to wear a Malcom X shirt, and you were about to lecture learned people about oppression - maybe next time get a shirt sans Castro.

Here's an excerpt from a Cuban writer from Miami who questioned Kaepernick about this...

_And that’s exactly the moment Kaepernick shows how lost he truly is. Because in the next breath, Kaepernick, born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, explains to me, the guy born in Havana, how great Castro really is.

“One thing Fidel Castro did do is they have the highest literacy rate because they invest more in their education system than they do in their prison system, which we do not do here even though we’re fully capable of doing that,” Kaepernick said.

Is this real life?

First, Cuba does not have the highest literacy rate. Second, don’t be surprised if the same people who report Cuba’s admittedly high literacy rate are related to those who report its election results — the ones in which the Castros get 100 percent of the votes.

Third, could it be Cuba doesn’t have to invest a lot in its prison system because, you know, dungeons and firing squads (El Paredon) are not too expensive to maintain?

Finally, it’s bizarre that Kaepernick is extolling the education system of a country where people believe launching out into shark-infested seas to flee is a better idea than staying there.

So I make the point to Kaepernick that aside from that awesome school system the Castro devils established, there was also that communist revolution we should consider, and the lack of free elections and justice. And after teaching folks the alphabet, to Kaepernick’s apparent delight, the Castros break up families, including mine, because some folks get out and others cannot.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article117033883.html#storylink=cpy_

Those places only value literacy because then the people can read what they're told to read.

Wasn't Kaepernick also wearing the "cops are pigs" socks?

@Knixon said:

Those places only value literacy because then the people can read what they're told to read.

Wasn't Kaepernick also wearing the "cops are pigs" socks?

He sure did, and a Fidel Castro t shirt.

The Miami Dolphins needed a Quarterback and didn't call him, now he's suing the NFL for Collusion against his employ, claiming the entire league collaborated to keep him out.

Bottom line is his skill on the field deteriorated as the league caught up to his style of play. His activism had little to do with it. If Aaron Rodgers protested he'd have a starting QB job no matter what because he's that talented.

@ArcticFox12 said:

Bottom line is his skill on the field deteriorated as the league caught up to his style of play. His activism had little to do with it. If Aaron Rodgers protested he'd have a staring QB job no matter what because he's that talented.

I'm not sure how true that is. A lot of people have walked away from supporting/watching teams they've followed their whole lives because of this, and it hasn't been limited to just teams that weren't having a good season anyway or no longer have a certain star player that they "have to" keep watching, or whatever.

@ArcticFox12 said:

The Miami Dolphins needed a Quarterback and didn't call him, now he's suing the NFL for Collusion against his employ, claiming the entire league collaborated to keep him out.

Bottom line is his skill on the field deteriorated as the league caught up to his style of play. His activism had little to do with it. If Aaron Rodgers protested he'd have a staring QB job no matter what because he's that talented.

For him to say that the entire league colluded to keep him out is wrong. Like you said his marketability as player decreased, activism or not. Collusion would be if the owners gathered together to decide this which they didn't do. Real collusion is the five families meeting with Don Corleone in The Godfather as an example.

@Knixon said:

@ArcticFox12 said:

Bottom line is his skill on the field deteriorated as the league caught up to his style of play. His activism had little to do with it. If Aaron Rodgers protested he'd have a staring QB job no matter what because he's that talented.

I'm not sure how true that is. A lot of people have walked away from supporting/watching teams they've followed their whole lives because of this, and it hasn't been limited to just teams that weren't having a good season anyway or no longer have a certain star player that they "have to" keep watching, or whatever.

Im speaking purely from an Xs and Os standpoint. When he came in , he set the league on fire because there was no tape on him. Once defensive coordinators had enough tape and found the weaknesses in his game to exploit he ceased being a good QB. This happens over and over again with running quarterbacks. He plays a style the league has moved away from.

For a team to bring him now they would have to overhaul their entire offensive system to tailor to his style of play. No back up quarterback with baggage is worth that amount of change .

Therefore he has no starting job.

But the suggestion/implication is that if he was still "on fire," for whatever reason, those people who stopped watching him/his team because of his behavior, would come back. That, in effect, the reason they felt able to dismiss him was because he wasn't "that good" any more. But from what I've seen and heard and read, the people who actually take his behavior seriously, wouldn't change their minds if be somehow became "important" again. His other behavior is more important to them than his game-playing.

@Knixon said:

But the suggestion/implication is that if he was still "on fire," for whatever reason, those people who stopped watching him/his team because of his behavior, would come back. That, in effect, the reason they felt able to dismiss him was because he wasn't "that good" any more. But from what I've seen and heard and read, the people who actually take his behavior seriously, wouldn't change their minds if be somehow became "important" again. His other behavior is more important to them than his game-playing.

The first part of your statement ruins the rest because that isn't "the implication". That's YOUR implication. If he was as skilled and successful as he was at the Apex of his career he certainly would still be popular whether he was protesting or not. That wasn't the point of my statement. The point of my statement is that his protest did not directly cause his unemployment as he plans to try to prove (futiley) by litigation . His unemployment is a direct result of his style of play from a purely Xs and Os standpoint.

I understand your argument. My point was that even if he still was a successful player, his behavior would still cause many people to stop watching - his playing skill wouldn't keep them watching despite that - and if that, played out nationally, is enough of an issue to cause a team to either crack down on that kind of behavior on the field or to jettison personnel who offend their paying audience, then he was on the way out regardless.

Whether his lack of performance was going to get him booted anyway and the behavior stuff was just coincidental or a convenient excuse or something, may be unknowable. If he thought that becoming controversial would protect his job - in a sports franchise! - more than successful playing would, well he's even dumber than I thought. And that's going a ways.

Here's the thing about collusion. It's VERY HARD to prove. IMO what this amounts to is his last gasp. He tried tried tried to get back to a place where he could both collect a huge paycheck AND have a stage for his political protest. Lawsuits like this are generally last gasp efforts. The fact many others are protesting and are still employed by many teams should result in this case getting booted by any legitimate judge before it even begins.

The last successful sports collusion case I can recall was the late 1980's case when MLB Players sued the owners for not signing free agents in an attempt to curtail salaries. Multiple players were offered no contracts by anyone other than their original teams, and only 4 FA's changed teams after 1985 season. The collusion was glaringly obvious to anyone who was remotely following the situation. Star players such as Kirk Gibson, Jack Morris (my Tigers), Tim Raines, Ron Guidry, none of them received offers from anyone but their old teams. The owners lost this case, and had to pay nearly $300 million to the MLBPA who distributed the cash. And all the FA's that were shown to be colluded against were given the option to immediately void their contracts and become Free Agents. This is how Kirk Gibson ended up with the Dodgers.

Kaepernick has no real grounds to stand on. As others have pointed out, his skill sets have deteriorated. He brings too much baggage with him for what he's currently worth. The last thing teams need at this level is a continued distraction. Focus in the NFL is key. It's the same reason Tim Tebow couldn't find a home. His skill set wasn't worth the distraction he brought. Right or wrong.

Again, Kaepernick seems to think he has a case to show that because he started this protest, and took a knee, he can't get a job. All the NFL defense attorney has to do is show how NOBODY else involved in the protest has lost their jobs, even though the President of the United States put pressure on league owners to do precisely that.

He has no case.

@censorshipsucks06 said:

Here's the thing about collusion. It's VERY HARD to prove. IMO what this amounts to is his last gasp. He tried tried tried to get back to a place where he could both collect a huge paycheck AND have a stage for his political protest. Lawsuits like this are generally last gasp efforts. The fact many others are protesting and are still employed by many teams should result in this case getting booted by any legitimate judge before it even begins.

The last successful sports collusion case I can recall was the late 1980's case when MLB Players sued the owners for not signing free agents in an attempt to curtail salaries. Multiple players were offered no contracts by anyone other than their original teams, and only 4 FA's changed teams after 1985 season. The collusion was glaringly obvious to anyone who was remotely following the situation. Star players such as Kirk Gibson, Jack Morris (my Tigers), Tim Raines, Ron Guidry, none of them received offers from anyone but their old teams. The owners lost this case, and had to pay nearly $300 million to the MLBPA who distributed the cash. And all the FA's that were shown to be colluded against were given the option to immediately void their contracts and become Free Agents. This is how Kirk Gibson ended up with the Dodgers.

Kaepernick has no real grounds to stand on. As others have pointed out, his skill sets have deteriorated. He brings too much baggage with him for what he's currently worth. The last thing teams need at this level is a continued distraction. Focus in the NFL is key. It's the same reason Tim Tebow couldn't find a home. His skill set wasn't worth the distraction he brought. Right or wrong.

Again, Kaepernick seems to think he has a case to show that because he started this protest, and took a knee, he can't get a job. All the NFL defense attorney has to do is show how NOBODY else involved in the protest has lost their jobs, even though the President of the United States put pressure on league owners to do precisely that.

He has no case.

Right. It's a last ditch effort to try to gain something because he knows full well he'll never play in the NFL again barring some impossible league wide QB injury epidemic.

And the standard of evidence for this case is nothing less than concrete evidence in the form of documented proof of collusion; emails , letters that leave no ambiguity of intent. His attorney can't prove anything tangibly , so this is a waste of everyone's time.

And here's the final nail in Kaepernick's coffin. ** He had a contract with the 49ers. He had an opt out option, which HE exercised. **

Let's say that again - KAEPERNICK officially opted out of his contract with the 49ers. They didn't cut him. He left all on his own. He made a bad move.

If ANYONE had any kind of case for collusion, it would have been Ray Rice. That guy had a few good to possibly great years left. And unlike Kaepernick, Rice WAS essentially fired by the Ravens. And Rice actually won a lawsuit against the Ravens for a few million dollars. But not even he was nuts enough to file a 'Hail Mary' lawsuit at the entire league.

Besides, now Colin has all this spare time to fight against all this American oppression he thinks permeates our society.

@censorshipsucks06 said:

And here's the final nail in Kaepernick's coffin. ** He had a contract with the 49ers. He had an opt out option, which HE exercised. **

Let's say that again - KAEPERNICK officially opted out of his contract with the 49ers. They didn't cut him. He left all on his own. He made a bad move.

If ANYONE had any kind of case for collusion, it would have been Ray Rice. That guy had a few good to possibly great years left. And unlike Kaepernick, Rice WAS essentially fired by the Ravens. And Rice actually won a lawsuit against the Ravens for a few million dollars. But not even he was nuts enough to file a 'Hail Mary' lawsuit at the entire league.

Besides, now Colin has all this spare time to fight against all this American oppression he thinks permeates our society.

Btw the Patriots just traded Jimmy Garroppolo to the Niners a few hours ago.