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Issue 164: A Fallen House
posted by tmdb38541732STAFFMOD on April 5, 2017 at 8:34 PM
Do I have to say it? Must I write that you shouldn't read this thread if you aren't caught up in the comics? It should be common sense.
Anyhow, in this issue, Negan saves Rick's life. And as the two of them are hiding inside an abandoned house waiting for that unbelievably large horde of zombies to move on, Negan and Rick have a heart to heart conversation about the worst thing they've ever done since the apocalypse began. Negan talks about the man he has become and his motivations.
I was surprised to find out that Negan was married. He was a normal guy. It was the apocalypse that changed him into a monster. I always figured that Negan was some kind of criminal before the apocalypse and he was able to find a niche during the whole thing. Like a criminal out of control. That wasn't the case at all.
So how did you react to Negan's confession? What are your thoughts on the whole thing? Do you think that - in light of Negan being screwed up in the head admission - maybe Rick will forgive Negan for murdering Glenn and Abe?
Reply by tmdb38541732
on April 25, 2017 at 4:09 PM
News travels fast don't it? They all are just chilling having a discussion. Why would they change up their behavior because of me?
Reply by TheShredder
on April 25, 2017 at 4:15 PM
Trust me, they are itching for a new enemy to pick on. After I left, it was Mange. After he left, they got fake styxxx who is k_who on here. And now that she put most of them on ignore, they are in need of new meat. But Crystal is in charge of approvals, and she's being kind of a bunt minus the b and add a c. So I wouldn't hold my breath, if I were you.
Reply by tmdb38541732
on April 25, 2017 at 4:20 PM
Oh man. I just miss Bentley really bad though.
Reply by TheShredder
on April 25, 2017 at 4:22 PM
That feeling will pass after his first post directed at you. It won't be a welcome to the board post, if you know what I mean.
Reply by tmdb38541732
on April 25, 2017 at 4:25 PM
Well I'll just deal with it then. If it gets too bad, I'll leave. No big deal.
Reply by TheShredder
on April 25, 2017 at 5:00 PM
Yeah, that's the right way to see it. Hopefully they learned their lesson and won't be so abrasive with people in the future. But for some reason, I don't see that happening. Also, when you get there, do me a favor and give Horation a nice big e-dick punch for me. Thanks!
Reply by tmdb53400018
on April 25, 2017 at 5:31 PM
I read it. Negan's admission didn't change my thoughts about him one bit.
Reply by DRDMovieMusings
on April 25, 2017 at 6:17 PM
@LadyGigi Spoilers! Spoilers! Bwahahaha! Nicely played.
Anyway, remember when Carl told his dad "I did what I had to do. You were in a room with the Governor and didn't kill him. Now look where we are. Get up and go do what you have to do."
Negan has, apparently, just been doing what he felt he had to do once society broke down and all hell broke loose. This time of bonding between Rick and Negan is confirming for the audience that they're all the same - how many people have looked at Rick and his gang the way we, who've seen and emoted through the TWD universe primarily through Rick's gang's eyes, look at any other gangs who threaten them?
Carol "did what she had to do." Seemed cruel, right? But she's one of "our gang", so we understand. And they ultimately forgave her.
Rick was going to trade Michonne for peace. He changed his mind, but not until it was nearly too late. Seemed cruel, right? Michonne forgave him, because he was doing "what he had to do."
If Rick was more like Negan, the gang might still be safe at the prison. By the time the gang got to Alexandria, he seemed a lot more like Negan. Was that bad, or good?
What makes Rick so good, and Negan so bad? Can Rick be better by being a little more like Negan? Can Negan be better by being a little more like Rick? Can the two of them join forces and become a united hope for a stable new world?
What is haunting for us (well, for me, anyway) is, should such a ZA ever actually happen, could we who are yet living, find a way to unite our strengths against the walkers, and ever maintain that the enemy is the walkers, or will we cut the legs out from under us and waste preciously scarce resources fighting each other?