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Rick can basically talk about how moral him and his group is, however at the end of last night's episode he basically turned into Negan by taking the people of Oceanside's weapons, sure, he offered them a chance to fight, however when they declined, he just took their weapons in Negan fashion. He also made Dwight get on his knees, I think if we saw Negan from the beginning we would sympathize with him, however since we didn't, we make him the bad guy. I think in this world, it is easy to become Negan, and the sad thing is, that gradually happens without anyone realizing it because they are doing what they have to do to survive.

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@TheShredder said:

@LadyGigi said:

@TheShredder said:

Chris,

It is really impossible to reason with you because you're categorizing both Negan's actions and Rick's actions based on your own personal opinion, and then treating it like a fact. For instance, you pointed out that Negan bashes peoples heads in with a bat, including a 16 year old boy just to show as an example. Well, we don't know anything about that situation, other than the words from the people who also have a bias against Negan. But to you, that is unforgivable.

However, Rick shooting a police officer who was begging for his life, that is forgivable. If you're going to be this disconnected and inconsistent of morality, how can anyone refute anything you say? It's really just a matter of opinion. However, you're the only one that thinks you're correct in EVERYTHING and we are all wrong.

I think that Chris relates to Rick. He thinks like Rick so that's why he can't be reasoned with. Rick cannot be reasoned with either. Just saying..

That actually makes sense because I relate to Negan and I can see the upsides to why he does what he does. Like, I don't see him as a bad guy, but a guy who just does bad things for the right reasons.

Bad things for the right reasons? See, that's something I don't get. Most of what Negan does is from pure selfishness and psychosis. You'd have to explain to me which bad things that Negan did for "good reasons".

@chrisjdel said:

@LadyGigi said: Well that's more than who is on your side now isn't it?

Not that the truth is a democracy but let's find out where people stand. If anyone else is bothering to watch this thread, time to sound off. Who else thinks Rick is Negan's long lost brother? Am I delusional for thinking there's a difference between them?

Frankly, I am sick of this thread, but I agree with you. Also, the other parties are delusional jerks, to put it nicely. I saw one of them on another thread when I first got on this site and immediately noticed the attitude and was put on the defensive where they were concerned. I will be putting them on ignore so as to not have to wade through their tirades which will be directed at me now.

@izzybee3 said:

@chrisjdel said:

@LadyGigi said: Well that's more than who is on your side now isn't it?

Not that the truth is a democracy but let's find out where people stand. If anyone else is bothering to watch this thread, time to sound off. Who else thinks Rick is Negan's long lost brother? Am I delusional for thinking there's a difference between them?

Frankly, I am sick of this thread, but I agree with you. Also, the other parties are delusional jerks, to put it nicely. I saw one of them on another thread when I first got on this site and immediately noticed the attitude and was put on the defensive where they were concerned. I will be putting them on ignore so as to not have to wade through their tirades which will be directed at me now.

Wonderful! Someone else who believes that we believe Rick is Negan's long lost brother. Which I never ever implied. How can they be brothers? Of course they are difference between Rick and Negan. They don't even look like twins. So stupid.

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