God, you're a long-winded s.o.b.

@Animus said:

God, you're a long-winded s.o.b.

You should see me when I REALLY get started.

@Animus said:

God, you're a long-winded s.o.b.

You have been reported to TMDB moderators.

@Raymondoz2007 said:

@Animus said:

God, you're a long-winded s.o.b.

You have been reported to TMDB moderators.

Please tell me you're joking.

I flat out despise the Carol character. Ever since she murdered people for catching the flu I have been eagerly awaiting her death.

@jridle73 said:

@Animus said:

God, you're a long-winded s.o.b.

You should see me when I REALLY get started.

Lol

@Raymondoz2007 said:

@Animus said:

God, you're a long-winded s.o.b.

You have been reported to TMDB moderators.

Lol.. Sheesh, if you're going to report me for something, do it for something worthwhile. I've said way worse things to people on here than that, you fucking pansy

@jridle73 said:

...Carol is troubled by thoughts of what may have happened back at the Safe Zone when Negan appeared. A few eps ago, she talked to Daryl but in order to further artificially prolong her exile, the writers had Daryl lie to her and tell her no one back home was hurt. She goes looking for answers at the Kingdom, encounters some zombies and we get an example of her abilities--she pulls up a road-sign, climbs up a tree and takes out the creatures while comfortably sitting there. Morgan won't tell her what really happened, insisting that what she discussed with Daryl is between she and Daryl.

"Bury Me Here" offers multiple examples of the writers failing to watch their own show. When Morgan tells Carol she'll have to take up that matter with Daryl, for example, he tells her Daryl is back at the Safe Zone and repeatedly offers to go back there with her to talk with him. Daryl, of course, can't go back to the Safe Zone--he's a fugitive from the Saviors, who will be looking for him to return there. More to the point, Daryl, before he left the Kingdom, specifically told Morgan that he was going to Hilltop, not the Safe Zone. A few eps ago, after Ezekiel's man Richard had twice gotten into scuffles with one of the Saviors at the Kingdom's regular "tribute" meeting with the villains (more scene duplication), Ezekiel said Richard would no longer be attending those meetings. But--you guessed it!--tonight, there was Richard, attending the next one. Moreover, his presence was essential to the plot because he puts in motion a scheme to cause tension between the two groups, in a bid to try to convince Ezekiel to join with the other communities in making war on the Saviors. If this was the course to be taken, would it have been so difficult for the creators to simply remove that earlier line? Or just not have included it in the first place? For that matter, Ezekiel is being written as a half-wit for ever again having Richard attend those meetings after the first instance of trouble.

Early in the ep, Morgan's young trainee at the Kingdom sees Carol take out those zombies from the tree and asks if he can watch her do her thing. He's trying to learn to fight. She turns him down. Later, he goes to fetch Morgan and brings his mentor a picture to hang on the wall. He knows a girl, he says, who fixed it up. He's reluctant to say more about her and gets some good-natured ribbing from Morgan over it. Seasoned viewers will recognize the pattern in this...

The full article is here.

I agree with everything you said. The writing has gotten pretty sloppy.

@jridle73 said:

...Carol is troubled by thoughts of what may have happened back at the Safe Zone when Negan appeared. A few eps ago, she talked to Daryl but in order to further artificially prolong her exile, the writers had Daryl lie to her and tell her no one back home was hurt. She goes looking for answers at the Kingdom, encounters some zombies and we get an example of her abilities--she pulls up a road-sign, climbs up a tree and takes out the creatures while comfortably sitting there. Morgan won't tell her what really happened, insisting that what she discussed with Daryl is between she and Daryl.

"Bury Me Here" offers multiple examples of the writers failing to watch their own show. When Morgan tells Carol she'll have to take up that matter with Daryl, for example, he tells her Daryl is back at the Safe Zone and repeatedly offers to go back there with her to talk with him. Daryl, of course, can't go back to the Safe Zone--he's a fugitive from the Saviors, who will be looking for him to return there. More to the point, Daryl, before he left the Kingdom, specifically told Morgan that he was going to Hilltop, not the Safe Zone. A few eps ago, after Ezekiel's man Richard had twice gotten into scuffles with one of the Saviors at the Kingdom's regular "tribute" meeting with the villains (more scene duplication), Ezekiel said Richard would no longer be attending those meetings. But--you guessed it!--tonight, there was Richard, attending the next one. Moreover, his presence was essential to the plot because he puts in motion a scheme to cause tension between the two groups, in a bid to try to convince Ezekiel to join with the other communities in making war on the Saviors. If this was the course to be taken, would it have been so difficult for the creators to simply remove that earlier line? Or just not have included it in the first place? For that matter, Ezekiel is being written as a half-wit for ever again having Richard attend those meetings after the first instance of trouble.

Early in the ep, Morgan's young trainee at the Kingdom sees Carol take out those zombies from the tree and asks if he can watch her do her thing. He's trying to learn to fight. She turns him down. Later, he goes to fetch Morgan and brings his mentor a picture to hang on the wall. He knows a girl, he says, who fixed it up. He's reluctant to say more about her and gets some good-natured ribbing from Morgan over it. Seasoned viewers will recognize the pattern in this...

The full article is here.

You didn't pay too much attention to the show.

Yes, Ezekiel said that Richard would no longer attend to the drop offs, but then the Saviours leader clearly said that Richard would continue to be present or there would be consequences. Richard was also the designated victim in case it was necessary to further address the point.

I'm all for criticizing this season, but just when is actually deserved.

@movie_nazi said:

I flat out despise the Carol character. Ever since she murdered people for catching the flu I have been eagerly awaiting her death.

That was an unconscionable bit of character assassination on behalf of the writers, who always made it a point do demonize anyone who offers any sort of raw survivalist sentiment.

FFS, it's that guy Ridle that bored everyone to tears on the IMDb TWD board...

Richard was told he'd be at every future meeting with the Saviors, it was explained to Ezekiel that he had better not leave him at home as he had offered in a moved he hoped would stop the long-haired asshole Savior from constantly starting up with his man...why did you choose to ignore that OP ? Maybe you should apply for a job on the writing team of this show eh ?

To be fair to the script regards Daryl and Morgan...Morgan has no idea what or where the Hilltop is, neither does Carol so as a viewer I just took it for granted that for the two of them to go to Alexandria would be the sensible thing to do if wanting to make contact with a friend who was keeping off the grid was their M.O. Approaching Rick or another would be the easiest way to see Daryl and would also negate the problem of approaching the Hilltop as an unknown.

You, from what I remember, are very hyper-critical and often it involves the most grey areas of the show, the everyday stuff, like the obvious mistake you begin your episode criticism with. The second point is a generalisation most human relations throw up or deal with almost everyday. Humans in general make small mistakes and throw together planned scenarios and end up doing another.

For me, a more obvious criticism of the episode would be everyone, more than a dozen people, already seeing a similar incidence in the same place a very short time before, resulting in a death of a young man they knew well, did nothing to restrain Morgan from strangling Richard. Instead they stand and watch as a man they are friendly with (removing the Saviors for a moment), share a home with and for many are a fighting comrade of. I found it bizarre that none of these 'knights' of the Kingdom came to Richards rescue and difussed the situation and tried to discover the real story behind Morgan's vicious attack. In the end was the Saviors presence something that would have mattered ? Would they even have bothered if the 'knights' stopped the attack ? The Savior leader seems fairly level headed and I doubt he or his men would have stopped the Kingdom folk from stopping the murder and would probably have just kept watching. The Kingdom people allow Morgan(who has lived with them how long...a month ?) to viciously beat and strangle their friend and only after find out why. That for me was poor.2

For me, a more obvious criticism of the episode would be everyone, more than a dozen people, already seeing a similar incidence in the same place a very short time before, resulting in a death of a young man they knew well, did nothing to restrain Morgan from strangling Richard. Instead they stand and watch as a man they are friendly with (removing the Saviors for a moment), share a home with and for many are a fighting comrade of. I found it bizarre that none of these 'knights' of the Kingdom came to Richards rescue and difussed the situation and tried to discover the real story behind Morgan's vicious attack. In the end was the Saviors presence something that would have mattered ? Would they even have bothered if the 'knights' stopped the attack ? The Savior leader seems fairly level headed and I doubt he or his men would have stopped the Kingdom folk from stopping the murder and would probably have just kept watching. The Kingdom people allow Morgan(who has lived with them how long...a month ?) to viciously beat and strangle their friend and only after find out why. That for me was poor.2

Finally someone thinks the way I do.

@Strontium Dug said:

FFS, it's that guy Ridle that bored everyone to tears on the IMDb TWD board...

His name is JRiddle. And yes, he hasn't had a good review for a single episode, including the good ones. When there was a really good episode, he still found little nit picks to gripe about and then held an heir of superiority for his opinions over others.

Not that I haven't agreed with him in the past on certain episodes, I just won't admit it to him because of his arrogance. And I disagree more times than I agree.

Last weeks episode, the one with Rick and Michonne, was by far the most boring episode to date. I mean, wow, I think Hardwick even had a hard time selling that one up. But this past episode, I liked it. I thought it was alright, setting the stage for a rebellion. Which these episodes are. They are just the bridge links that will eventually come together and form the whole story.

@TheShredder said:

@Strontium Dug said:

FFS, it's that guy Ridle that bored everyone to tears on the IMDb TWD board...

His name is JRiddle. And yes, he hasn't had a good review for a single episode, including the good ones. When there was a really good episode, he still found little nit picks to gripe about and then held an heir of superiority for his opinions over others.

Not that I haven't agreed with him in the past on certain episodes, I just won't admit it to him because of his arrogance. And I disagree more times than I agree.

Last weeks episode, the one with Rick and Michonne, was by far the most boring episode to date. I mean, wow, I think Hardwick even had a hard time selling that one up. But this past episode, I liked it. I thought it was alright, setting the stage for a rebellion. Which these episodes are. They are just the bridge links that will eventually come together and form the whole story.

At least Riddle's arrogance isn't as annoying as yours.

Added an update correcting the business about Gavin insisting Richard continue attending the Kingdom/Saviors meetings.