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@Hawkychico-1 said:

I am glad this Morgan has finally arrived. Maybe the writers listened on how much everyone couldn't stand the pacifist Morgan. He has been the biggest let down of a character since everyone waited for long for him to return and when he did he was lame and a waste of a character that had so much potential.

He still HAS that potential. Morgan is back!

@The Midi-chlorian Count said:

@clockworkorange! said:

I think Morgan is ready to fight and kill now!

Morgan only kills people who want to kill other people...

He still a pacifist. Just a more "proactive" one now 😉

Richard basically said that it was an accident. He thought that he would be the one to die not poor Benjamin.

And he cried about it later on while talking to Morgan. Cut the guy some slack.

@LadyGigi said:

@The Midi-chlorian Count said:

@clockworkorange! said:

I think Morgan is ready to fight and kill now!

Morgan only kills people who want to kill other people...

He still a pacifist. Just a more "proactive" one now 😉

Richard basically said that it was an accident. He thought that he would be the one to die not poor Benjamin.

And he cried about it later on while talking to Morgan. Cut the guy some slack.

I wasn't talking about him wanting to kill Benjamin - I was meaning Richard wanted to kill those poor, frightened / misdirected Savior chaps.

That was just plain wrong and what really irked Morgan - and was why he had to be killed to stop the killing...

@The Midi-chlorian Count said:

@LadyGigi said:

@The Midi-chlorian Count said:

@clockworkorange! said:

I think Morgan is ready to fight and kill now!

Morgan only kills people who want to kill other people...

He still a pacifist. Just a more "proactive" one now 😉

Richard basically said that it was an accident. He thought that he would be the one to die not poor Benjamin.

And he cried about it later on while talking to Morgan. Cut the guy some slack.

I wasn't talking about him wanting to kill Benjamin - I was meaning Richard wanted to kill those poor, frightened / misdirected Savior chaps.

That was just plain wrong and what really irked Morgan - and was why he had to be killed to stop the killing...

Excuse me but Morgan was more than irked. And there were other ways of dealing with Richard. He was part of the community.

Morgan's the worst! That's all.

@LadyGigi said: Excuse me but Morgan was more than irked. And there were other ways of dealing with Richard. He was part of the community.

Richard is the kind of guy who has no problem playing God with other peoples' lives. What he intended is no excuse. Believing he had the right to try is the problem, not the way it turned out. He's okay with manipulating people like game pieces based on his own personal assessment of what should happen. And who gave him that right? Why he did, of course! People like Richard in the real world always say they were trying to do this or that but some other factor intervened and screwed it all up. Guess what though? Life's like that. There are too many people and too many forces beyond your control. Things frequently don't work out the way you planned.

If you're going to overstep your bounds because you think you know best, there's only one rule: you'd better be right. You don't deserve an ounce of slack if you're not. From my own personal experience manipulators take a long, long time to realize the actual issue is their repeated overstepping and not the particular outcome in each case. Some of them never realize it. There's no reason to think Richard wouldn't do something similar in the future, if it was necessary in his own divine judgment. His arrogance was every bit as responsible for Benjamin's death as that bullet. And he was ready to throw Carol's life away for the "greater good" without hesitation. Why shouldn't Morgan have done the same to him? Ezekiel probably would've sent him away rather than killing him. But how is Richard a victim here?

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