@LadyGigi said:

Rick, Shane, Carol, Sasha, Abe, Deanna's son and Father Gabriel all went a little mad or full on psycho. It makes the show more interesting imo. I like to see the toughest of characters lose their shit. So I think seeing Michonne go completely nutso would be one of the epic things TWD could have. This is how it should go: Michonne gets captured by Negan during the first wave of the battle. Negan breaks her and she becomes a brainwashed Stepford Wife for Negan. She becomes the alpha of his wives and turns completely against Rick and Carl. She stays on Negan's side even killing Sasha and a few people from the Hilltop. Carol hears about Michonne's betrayal. She hates to see a strong black woman fall apart so Carol plans a rogue mission to infiltrate The Saviors compound like she did at The Sanctuary. She gains access to the compound and finds a way to be alone with Michonne. She talks sense into Michonne. Even going as far as slapping her face a few times, throwing hot water at her and yelling. I wanna see Carol really go at Michonne. I dunno. I jusy don't like Michonne and I think Michonne needs to go through more pain. Her life is too easy. She has things too much under control. The real world doesn't work that way.

Michonne paid her dues at the beginning. Remember how she was in season 3? Master of one word answers and The Glare. Even the Governor was a little freaked out by her, and that was before she jammed a shard of glass through his eye. It wasn't until the latter half of season 4 that she started opening up and acting like a human being instead of the T-1000. We need to see Maggie go a little nuts I think. She lost her home, her father, her sister, now her husband ... there's only so much a person can take before they snap and do something like, say, strangling Gregory with piano wire and taking over Hilltop.

@LadyGigi said:

But she hasn't lost her mind. That's the point. Anyway, why do I bother chatting with anyone here. All you do is disagree for no reason. I'm so ready to delete my account. Why is it so hard to find the delete account link on here? I feel held captive in boring land.

After that episode where she walked with the herd, then lost it and hacked them all into sushi, you're telling me she was perfectly stable? Barely talking and acting like a emotionless machine isn't exactly healthy well adjusted behavior. Everyone handles grief and trauma differently. That was my point. Don't tell me I disagreed with you for no reason, I had very good reasons. Becoming a brainwashed Stepford Wife would be completely out of character for Michonne. I wouldn't buy that for a second, nor would most of the people who watch the show. I could see her withdrawing back into her shell, I could see her developing a death wish and doing stupid shit that gets her killed, but not that.

@LadyGigi said:

Rick, Shane, Carol, Sasha, Abe, Deanna's son and Father Gabriel all went a little mad or full on psycho. It makes the show more interesting imo. I like to see the toughest of characters lose their shit. So I think seeing Michonne go completely nutso would be one of the epic things TWD could have. This is how it should go: Michonne gets captured by Negan during the first wave of the battle. Negan breaks her and she becomes a brainwashed Stepford Wife for Negan. She becomes the alpha of his wives and turns completely against Rick and Carl. She stays on Negan's side even killing Sasha and a few people from the Hilltop. Carol hears about Michonne's betrayal. She hates to see a strong black woman fall apart so Carol plans a rogue mission to infiltrate The Saviors compound like she did at The Sanctuary. She gains access to the compound and finds a way to be alone with Michonne. She talks sense into Michonne. Even going as far as slapping her face a few times, throwing hot water at her and yelling. I wanna see Carol really go at Michonne. I dunno. I jusy don't like Michonne and I think Michonne needs to go through more pain. Her life is too easy. She has things too much under control. The real world doesn't work that way.

Judith. I want her to ride the Tiger in to battle while firing Daryl's crossbow, and go out in a blaze of glory.

Carl.

@John Ell said:

Carl.

Maybe they could have him find a baseball bat in a store somewhere, wrap it in razor wire, and call it Sophia. Then when they capture a few Saviors, have him go down the line like Negan and pick someone out to bash their skull in. After pounding their head into bloody mush he smiles and says hey, Negan's right man, this is fun! Then he holds the bloody bat out to his friends and asks if someone else wants a turn. Heads shake no. So ... batter up!

@MrRobot said:

@LadyGigi said:

Rick, Shane, Carol, Sasha, Abe, Deanna's son and Father Gabriel all went a little mad or full on psycho. It makes the show more interesting imo. I like to see the toughest of characters lose their shit. So I think seeing Michonne go completely nutso would be one of the epic things TWD could have. This is how it should go: Michonne gets captured by Negan during the first wave of the battle. Negan breaks her and she becomes a brainwashed Stepford Wife for Negan. She becomes the alpha of his wives and turns completely against Rick and Carl. She stays on Negan's side even killing Sasha and a few people from the Hilltop. Carol hears about Michonne's betrayal. She hates to see a strong black woman fall apart so Carol plans a rogue mission to infiltrate The Saviors compound like she did at The Sanctuary. She gains access to the compound and finds a way to be alone with Michonne. She talks sense into Michonne. Even going as far as slapping her face a few times, throwing hot water at her and yelling. I wanna see Carol really go at Michonne. I dunno. I jusy don't like Michonne and I think Michonne needs to go through more pain. Her life is too easy. She has things too much under control. The real world doesn't work that way.

Judith. I want her to ride the Tiger in to battle while firing Daryl's crossbow, and go out in a blaze of glory.

Lol...now that would really be something interesting to see.

@LadyGigi said:

@MrRobot said: Judith. I want her to ride the Tiger in to battle while firing Daryl's crossbow, and go out in a blaze of glory.

Lol...now that would really be something interesting to see.

Isn't she just a bit small for that? I think she'll have to stick to being Tara's therapist for a few more years before leading any suicidal charges on tigerback.

@chrisjdel said:

@LadyGigi said:

@MrRobot said: Judith. I want her to ride the Tiger in to battle while firing Daryl's crossbow, and go out in a blaze of glory.

Lol...now that would really be something interesting to see.

Isn't she just a bit small for that? I think she'll have to stick to being Tara's therapist for a few more years before leading any suicidal charges on tigerback.

Then how should a toddler go nuts ?

@LadyGigi said:

@chrisjdel said:

@LadyGigi said:

@MrRobot said: Judith. I want her to ride the Tiger in to battle while firing Daryl's crossbow, and go out in a blaze of glory.

Lol...now that would really be something interesting to see.

Isn't she just a bit small for that? I think she'll have to stick to being Tara's therapist for a few more years before leading any suicidal charges on tigerback.

Then how should a toddler go nuts ?

Nuts is the natural state of a toddler. How would you tell the difference?

@chrisjdel said:

@LadyGigi said:

@chrisjdel said:

@LadyGigi said:

@MrRobot said: Judith. I want her to ride the Tiger in to battle while firing Daryl's crossbow, and go out in a blaze of glory.

Lol...now that would really be something interesting to see.

Isn't she just a bit small for that? I think she'll have to stick to being Tara's therapist for a few more years before leading any suicidal charges on tigerback.

Then how should a toddler go nuts ?

Nuts is the natural state of a toddler. How would you tell the difference?

Lol..She's too adorable though. I don't want her to die.

@John Ell said:

Carl.

Yeah that would be interesting. I wonder how the writers on the show will do it? Hopefully not how they did Morgan in last night's episode. I liked it and all but it was completely atypical of how Morgan has always been even when he was as crazy as a June bug in episode Clear.

@chrisjdel said:

@LadyGigi said:

Rick, Shane, Carol, Sasha, Abe, Deanna's son and Father Gabriel all went a little mad or full on psycho. It makes the show more interesting imo. I like to see the toughest of characters lose their shit. So I think seeing Michonne go completely nutso would be one of the epic things TWD could have. This is how it should go: Michonne gets captured by Negan during the first wave of the battle. Negan breaks her and she becomes a brainwashed Stepford Wife for Negan. She becomes the alpha of his wives and turns completely against Rick and Carl. She stays on Negan's side even killing Sasha and a few people from the Hilltop. Carol hears about Michonne's betrayal. She hates to see a strong black woman fall apart so Carol plans a rogue mission to infiltrate The Saviors compound like she did at The Sanctuary. She gains access to the compound and finds a way to be alone with Michonne. She talks sense into Michonne. Even going as far as slapping her face a few times, throwing hot water at her and yelling. I wanna see Carol really go at Michonne. I dunno. I jusy don't like Michonne and I think Michonne needs to go through more pain. Her life is too easy. She has things too much under control. The real world doesn't work that way.

Michonne paid her dues at the beginning. Remember how she was in season 3? Master of one word answers and The Glare. Even the Governor was a little freaked out by her, and that was before she jammed a shard of glass through his eye. It wasn't until the latter half of season 4 that she started opening up and acting like a human being instead of the T-1000. We need to see Maggie go a little nuts I think. She lost her home, her father, her sister, now her husband ... there's only so much a person can take before they snap and do something like, say, strangling Gregory with piano wire and taking over Hilltop.

She hasn't gone through what the others have. I know she lost her child. That was awful. But she hasn't lost as much as the other survivors.

And that situation with The Governor was started by Michonne. She bothered The Governor first. She pushed him over the edge when she killed zombie Penny and took out his eye. After that, his humanity was lost. Before he was killing to keep his community intact. After that he just killed indiscriminately.

@LadyGigi said: She hasn't gone through what the others have. I know she lost her child. That was awful. But she hasn't lost as much as the other survivors.

And that situation with The Governor was started by Michonne. She bothered The Governor first. She pushed him over the edge when she killed zombie Penny and took out his eye. After that, his humanity was lost. Before he was killing to keep his community intact. After that he just killed indiscriminately.

Remember that journal the Governor was keeping before Penny got bitten? How it devolved into an endless, very meticulous doodle? I immediately thought of Jack Nicholson in The Shining. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. He already had those Walker-quariums before Andrea and Michonne showed up. And was killing decent people just to take what they had. It wasn't necessary to kill the soldiers. He did it because after talking to the one guy he rescued from the helicopter, it was clear they were still trying to be soldiers and protect the innocent, i.e. they were boy scouts and would never have accepted the way things work in Woodbury. So he got rid of them. In some ways finally facing the death of his daughter caused the gloves to come off but he was already 95% of the way there.

Michonne's lost as much as anyone else whose spouse and children were taken from them. She didn't have to see her baby eaten by walkers, I suppose there's that, but she wasn't there to protect her son when he needed her. In some ways guilt is the worst of traumas. Torturing yourself with all the what-ifs. If only you'd been here instead of there, done this instead of that, it never would've happened. It was her job to protect her child - and she failed. Pretty much the way any parent would feel under the circumstances.

@chrisjdel said:

@LadyGigi said: She hasn't gone through what the others have. I know she lost her child. That was awful. But she hasn't lost as much as the other survivors.

And that situation with The Governor was started by Michonne. She bothered The Governor first. She pushed him over the edge when she killed zombie Penny and took out his eye. After that, his humanity was lost. Before he was killing to keep his community intact. After that he just killed indiscriminately.

Remember that journal the Governor was keeping before Penny got bitten? How it devolved into an endless, very meticulous doodle? I immediately thought of Jack Nicholson in The Shining. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. He already had those Walker-quariums before Andrea and Michonne showed up. And was killing decent people just to take what they had. It wasn't necessary to kill the soldiers. He did it because after talking to the one guy he rescued from the helicopter, it was clear they were still trying to be soldiers and protect the innocent, i.e. they were boy scouts and would never have accepted the way things work in Woodbury. So he got rid of them. In some ways finally facing the death of his daughter caused the gloves to come off but he was already 95% of the way there.

Michonne's lost as much as anyone else whose spouse and children were taken from them. She didn't have to see her baby eaten by walkers, I suppose there's that, but she wasn't there to protect her son when he needed her. In some ways guilt is the worst of traumas. Torturing yourself with all the what-ifs. If only you'd been here instead of there, done this instead of that, it never would've happened. It was her job to protect her child - and she failed. Pretty much the way any parent would feel under the circumstances.

Yet she hasn't lost her mind or gone full psycho yet while nearly everyone has so far. How convenient.

@LadyGigi said: Yet she hasn't lost her mind or gone full psycho yet while nearly everyone has so far. How convenient.

Not everyone goes full psycho. Everyone deals with trauma differently. Remember Dr. Jenner from the CDC? He seemed remarkably detached and clinical about things, even including his wife's death. Only toward the end did you realize how deeply affected he was. He was lost without her, and didn't want to go on living. He welcomed death. Michonne is one of those people who turns inward and withdraws from the world rather than lashing out at it.