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1 walker to show Cersei > 2 dead warriors, Viserion, wounded Jon Snow, Viserion coming back as an enemy, uncle benjen

Couldn't they have come up with a better plan? that's one of the worst deals I've ever seen. Couldn't one of them just communicate with Cersei and convince her, or at least try? Or were the writers that desperate to come up with another exciting action scene, however illogical?

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The WIGHTS clearly do not disintegrate, as you saw about a hundred times in the last episode. The White Walkers do. The White Walkers are a completely different species. The white Walkers are not dead corpses brought back to life. Never once in the 7 seasons and 66 episodes of Game of Thrones has a WIGHT disintegrated. Dragon Glass will have no effect on the WIGHT(not white walker) Dragon.

@ThrillKillz said:

I think Cersei has PTSD and has lost her future by means of various things, her time locked in a dungeon, her shaming, all of her sons being murdered.

This is where I'm hoping Arya kills Cersei after Little Pecker, but I doubt they'll(writers) make me that happy. It would be a hard thing for her to top the Frey's killings I mean that was badass X infinity and she has no plans on forgetting ANY names on her list. I believe she believes it's her destiny and I reckon it truly is. Sansa may cause some trouble for her which is why I believe she kills Little Pecker and immediately sets off for K.L'ing for Cersei. If anything happens to Arya if she's killed off early for some reason I'll have a very hard time watching the rest, I do believe there will be a MAJOR character death in this season finale if not TWO, again just my opinion.

Yeah, thanks for reminding of Cersei's shaming. That was one of my favorite parts. She deserved the torture.....Unfortunately it didn't take too long after though for her to get back power after setting up the Tyrells for that mass bombing.

Its like they are playing an arcade game and the only aim is to balance of all the various factions so every side has a reasonable chance of climbing the ladder in the great game.

@A to Z said:

The WIGHTS clearly do not disintegrate, as you saw about a hundred times in the last episode. The White Walkers do. The White Walkers are a completely different species. The white Walkers are not dead corpses brought back to life. Never once in the 7 seasons and 66 episodes of Game of Thrones has a WIGHT disintegrated. Dragon Glass will have no effect on the WIGHT(not white walker) Dragon.

Ok please explain this so it's completely straight, I'm serious straighten this out. You're saying there are a race of human looking people called Wights who live beyond the wall who are completely separate from White Walkers and they aren't dead? And these people'ish beings have a penchant for bringing back the dead to raise an army which is how we came to this?

Also the blue eyed undead bastard that Sam killed outside of Caster's Keep(I don't recall the exact name that could be wrong) with the dragon glass dagger that made the dude shatter into bits, was or was not a white walker? You know the one who came for the newborn babies, he seemed pretty high in the ranks so was he a Wight and NOT a White Walker then how come he shattered by just a touch with the dragon glass? I believe it's been said here that the Wight's don't shatter from dragon glass then what happened in the scene I'm describing?

The wights are dead corpses brought back to life by the White Walkers. The Night King was made by Children of the forest, did you not see that scene? The other White Walkers were made as babies by the night king. Why do you think they were abducting babies?? Do you not remember the scene where we see what happens to them? They got turned into White Walkers. They start off as babies, and grow into adults. Clearly undead babies would simply remain babies, and not grow into adults. Wights would not abduct babies, they are mindless undead. White Walkers are not undead, they never died. They went from living humans to White Walkers. They didn't die and come back to life.

@A to Z said:

The wights are dead corpses brought back to life by the White Walkers. The Night King was made by Children of the forest, did you not see that scene? The other White Walkers were made as babies by the night king. Why do you think they were abducting babies?? Do you not remember the scene where we see what happens to them? They got turned into White Walkers. They start off as babies, and grow into adults. Clearly undead babies would simply remain babies, and not grow into adults. Wights would not abduct babies, they are mindless undead. White Walkers are not undead, they never died. They went from living humans to White Walkers. They didn't die and come back to life.

Ok I appreciate your response because frankly my memory is filled with 13,000 films and Tv shows plus I'm usually under the influence of something, xanax especially make me forget shit easily, but they are quite necessary unfortunately. I have a VERY loose remembrance of how the Night King was made, ok so all of the babies from Caster's Keep(is that the correct name?) that he was steadily producing for him were for the Night King to raise till full adulthood as Warriors for his army? How the hell do they get breast milk or nutrition(which they would desperately need if alive and human) and who teaches them how to fight and whatnot? Is there a daycare and school for these young and dumb WW'ers? So are these men are still alive or are they dead? And wait a minute now you're saying Wights are the mindless undead and the White Walkers are NOT undead, that they never died?!? How does one go from a living human to a WW exactly? Man you've f'ked up and infected my brain and I'm more confused with those answers than I was without them.😵😞😵😞😵 I give up. You're like a type of GoT's mental malware man! I need to uninstall and reinstall my braindrive before it crashes and I end up a friggin🥕!

@ThrillKillz said:

@A to Z said:

The Dragon is a wight, not a white walker. Wights can be killed with normal weapons.

Wight, white, wite, whatever way it's spelled I never read the books to ascertain the correct logography of the word. And btw I never mentioned the dragon other than it being killed and being on the other team so may wanna check your references on that bit.

Wights can't be killed because they're already dead man, they can be rendered useless with normal weapons, but it's the dragon glass that instantaneously disintegrates them.

WHY didn't Jon's team bring "Dragons Glass" with them?

I thought Jon was finished getting the dragon glass [ although mining takes for ever!!!]

@ThrillKillz said:

@A to Z said:

The wights are dead corpses brought back to life by the White Walkers. The Night King was made by Children of the forest, did you not see that scene? The other White Walkers were made as babies by the night king. Why do you think they were abducting babies?? Do you not remember the scene where we see what happens to them? They got turned into White Walkers. They start off as babies, and grow into adults. Clearly undead babies would simply remain babies, and not grow into adults. Wights would not abduct babies, they are mindless undead. White Walkers are not undead, they never died. They went from living humans to White Walkers. They didn't die and come back to life.

Ok I appreciate your response because frankly my memory is filled with 13,000 films and Tv shows plus I'm usually under the influence of something, xanax especially make me forget shit easily, but they are quite necessary unfortunately. I have a VERY loose remembrance of how the Night King was made, ok so all of the babies from Caster's Keep(is that the correct name?) that he was steadily producing for him were for the Night King to raise till full adulthood as Warriors for his army? How the hell do they get breast milk or nutrition(which they would desperately need if alive and human) and who teaches them how to fight and whatnot? Is there a daycare and school for these young and dumb WW'ers? So are these men are still alive or are they dead? And wait a minute now you're saying Wights are the mindless undead and the White Walkers are NOT undead, that they never died?!? How does one go from a living human to a WW exactly? Man you've f'ked up and infected my brain and I'm more confused with those answers than I was without them.😵😞😵😞😵 I give up. You're like a type of GoT's mental malware man! I need to uninstall and reinstall my braindrive before it crashes and I end up a friggin🥕!

The White Walkers are magical beings, so they live by magic I guess. The night king was made by plunging dragon glass into his heart, and some kind of magic that was performed I guess. I don't know how he turns the babies. By magic I guess. It think the night king just held them up in the air or something. It's all magic. Don't worry about it too much.

@ThrillKillz said:

@A to Z said:

The Dragon is a wight, not a white walker. Wights can be killed with normal weapons.

Wight, white, wite, whatever way it's spelled I never read the books to ascertain the correct logography of the word.

It's now a Blue-Eyes Wight Dragon. It's time to duel! grinning

@A to Z said:

Don't worry about it too much.

Best advice I've gotten outta here in weeks,lol.

@ThrillKillz said:

@A to Z said:

The Dragon is a wight, not a white walker. Wights can be killed with normal weapons.

Wight, white, wite, whatever way it's spelled I never read the books to ascertain the correct logography of the word. And btw I never mentioned the dragon other than it being killed and being on the other team so may wanna check your references on that bit.

Wights can't be killed because they're already dead man, they can be rendered useless with normal weapons, but it's the dragon glass that instantaneously disintegrates them.

I've heard that wight is an ancient Celtic word meaning (more or less) "undead". Don't know if that's true, but it makes sense.

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