@Nephlim14 said:

I know this is a little late but please bare with me.

When I saw The scene where Theon abandoned ship, I initially cried "COWARD". But then I thought about two factors.

1. What exactly was Theon supposed to do in that moment. He couldn't charge at Euron without him cutting Yara's throat and he certainly couldn't talk him down. It was kinda obvious Euron was taking her as a hostage and if Theon hadn't done what he did, they both couldv'e died there. This way he can get reinforcements.

He did the right thing by fleeing. I thought that was obvious

1. Theon's PTSD. I know this is set in a time when that term wasn't known but COMEON PEOPLE. What should we have expected, Yara telling him to "get over it" to work. Theon was tortured mentally and physically by a master torturer, of course he would have some type of traumatic disorder that would require some actual help.

Yara was completely ignorant to this and treated it like a minor case of stage fright. He had no business in a battle and she should have had him stay with Daenarys.

Well, I don't think he can stay where it's "safe" like a child. In the Game of Thrones, you win or you die.

Also, I think with the Red Woman around Theon could have her heal him. She could bring back the dead, so she can reattach genitals.

LMAO! Phew! That was funny as hell. Anyways, it was not the Red woman that brought Jon Snow back as she will tell you and as will Thoros, it is the "Lord of Light" who decides is worthy to return. You will also notice that when they return they still bare the scars of their wounds. In other words, if you lost your dick in a fight and bled out to death, even if you are brought back you are still dickless.

I'll just ask this here...does anyone not really care for Yara?

@Nephlim14 said:

Also, I think with the Red Woman around Theon could have her heal him. She could bring back the dead, so she can reattach genitals.

Haha! Sam cured greyscale so easily, maybe he can fix Theon's problem lol anyway I'm interested on what will happen to Theon - actor's great!

I'm a fan of Yara! she's pretty bad ass

@NorthernLad said:

I'll just ask this here...does anyone not really care for Yara?

I don't like her. She seems to care about Theon more than the dad did, but she can be just as dismissive to his personal struggles as the old man was. Like the rest of the Ironborn apparently, she cares more about their whole "warrior spirit" code and it causes her to be completely ignorant to things like logic, or psychological trauma.

Considering that Theon mistook his own sister for a prostitute in Season 2, Yara has good reason to mistrust his judgement

I partly chose to read this scene as another example of the show's subversion of common genre tropes--in this case the trope where a villain has captured one of the hero's partners or loved ones and uses it to try to compel the hero's surrender. We've seen the situation in countless action/adventure films, and the results are always the same: the hero pretends to lay down his arms, then he waits till the right moment before springing on the villain. (Think of the end of Die Hard, for example.) Of course this is much harder to do than the movies make it look.

As I said in another thread, one of the crucial elements that made Theon seem like a coward was that he appeared to be acting out of blind panic. Yes, it's unfair since he was clearly suffering from PTSD (something which afflicts many non-cowardly individuals in our world), but I think there would have been a different reaction if he had appeared to make his decision calmly.

After all, other characters in the series have made pragmatic decisions to avoid a fight without coming off so...well, pathetic. For example, think of Bronn's decision not to go up against the Mountain. Tyrion understandably considered it a betrayal, and nobody thinks of Bronn as exactly the most honorable character. But nobody thinks of him as a coward, either.

@Kylopod said:

I partly chose to read this scene as another example of the show's subversion of common genre tropes--in this case the trope where a villain has captured one of the hero's partners or loved ones and uses it to try to compel the hero's surrender. We've seen the situation in countless action/adventure films, and the results are always the same: the hero pretends to lay down his arms, then he waits till the right moment before springing on the villain. (Think of the end of Die Hard, for example.) Of course this is much harder to do than the movies make it look.

Actually, the far more common trope is that the person in question looks around as though he/she is going to make a valiant effort at the rescue, assesses that the situation is hopeless, and then begrudgingly lays down their arms and surrenders. But I do get your point as to how GOT loves to smash common TV tropes and I love them for it.