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Sansa/Jon/Littlefinger
postat de către ace_highSTAFFMOD pe data de 29 martie 2017 la ora 10:01 AM
First off - first post here, I migrated over from IMDb, although I changed my username. Anyway, having recently finished season 6, I seem to see a lot of discussion of the look exchanged between Sansa and Baelish when Jon was proclaimed King in the North. Many people seem to think Sansa is feeling tempted to betray Jon out of jealousy that it was he, and not her, that the Northerners rallied behind. I understand a lot of people dislike Sansa, but I could never see her betraying Jon. I interpreted that look as: Littlefinger as much as told her that he had an ultimate vision (himself on the Iron Throne with her as his Queen) and would do anything he had to to make that vision a reality. If Jon is proclaimed King in the North, that puts him in danger from Littlefinger, and I am reasonably sure that the look Sansa gave Petyr was alarm at the possibility of him killing Jon (who, let's face it, is not really built for dealing with sneaks like Littlefinger, as Ned wasn't). Am I missing something as to why so many people seem to feel Sansa has the capability to be that devious and evil as to turn on Jon so easily? Especially since it seems pretty clear that she has no interest in the Iron Throne or in returning to King's Landing? And she told Jon that he should have Ned and Catelyn's room, not her. As I see it, Sansa now has what she wants - she's the Lady of Winterfell. And while she has been at times vapid, annoying, naive, and frustrating throughout the show's run, she has never been evil or malicious. So I don't see her turning on Jon and I don't see some big character 180 coming up for her. I hope that to the contrary, this is the beginning of the end for Littlefinger. He's a great character but as hateful as any on the show. Basically the whole mess going on right now is his fault.
Răspuns de TheCheetahPeach
pe data de 12 mai 2017 la ora 3:00 AM
I agree 100% with you, Sansa will never betray her family. Especially after all she's been through and realized and saw what happened to Rickon.
Răspuns de CharlesTheBold
pe data de 12 mai 2017 la ora 9:18 AM
Just wanted to reply to an oddity in the "King of the North" scene. One of Jon's supporters says that he "avenged the Red Wedding". But he didn't. As far as the other characters know, Lord Frey was killed by a mysterious girl and his sons disappeared ( we know that the girl was Arya and that the sons disappeared into a pie; Jon wasn't involved). What Jon DID avenge was the despoiling of Winterfell , the murders of Rickon and others, and the rape of Sansa.
Răspuns de sheezcrazy
pe data de 11 iulie 2017 la ora 9:20 AM
No spoilers here, just conjecture: I think Arya and Sansa will reunite this season (I also think Arya will meet Nymeria on her way home as well) and they will figure out, or learn,of Baelish's part in their fathers death. They'll kill him. And that's why Arya has Baelish's knife in all l those promo shots. I also think Sansa is going to survive the series. I don't think Arya will, and probably not Jon, either.
Răspuns de CharlesTheBold
pe data de 12 iulie 2017 la ora 12:22 AM
It looks to me that Sansa is not completely happy with either Jon or Littlefinger. She finds Jon honorable but somewhat naive; Littlefinger is realistic but treacherous. So she is keeping both of them on her string, using whichever one works best in the current emergency.
Răspuns de Leo of Red Keep
pe data de 12 iulie 2017 la ora 1:24 AM
I stripped your original to leave the answer. You are missing that "many people" are fools who judge others based on how they feel about them. They dislike Sansa, mostly for being a selfish, innocent teenager in the 1st season, for not having turned into a "BADASS WOMAN", or for not displaying the naive drive to right all wrongs and change the world. They dislike Sansa, so they see her guilty of all she could possibly do before she does it. They think she is jealous of Jon in spite of seeing the very opposite in her previous scene with him ("Winter is here"), they think she tried to have him killed in the battle in spite of warning him not to do what he did. They do the same with Cersei, by the way, accusing her of things she neither did or wanted.
It is a complex story, smarter than most of its audience. Popular opinion is wrong. Most of the time.
Răspuns de Leo of Red Keep
pe data de 12 iulie 2017 la ora 1:33 AM
To Northerners, the Red Wedding was mostly the betrayal of Roose Bolton who turned on his king to take the place of the Starks. Taking the Boltons down was the actual undoing of this. Walder Frey, by the way, was justified in going against the man who had broken his promise to him.
Răspuns de Leo of Red Keep
pe data de 12 iulie 2017 la ora 1:42 AM
There must be friction between Jon and Sansa. They are opposite types. They will want to love each other because it's what's left of the family they lost but they won't be able to. They'll share the same goal and will always bicker about different ways of getting there or doing things.
Sansa is becoming very much like her teachers, Cersei and Littlefinger, and we are left to wonder how much of a mark Ramsay has left on her too. I don't think she is plotting, though. She doesn't seem to have had more ambition than regaining her home and her security. Once arrived, Lady of Winterfell, she will be in a similar position to Cersei in Season 1, reacting to threats only.