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I really love the TV Shows feature, once you get into it, it has a well thought top to bottom hierarchy, there is an obvious changes logic that is to be implemented

However I'm wondering what happens when episodes or seasons get deleted, or their orders change. Let me simplify my concerns into a simple list:

[1]: What happens when the order of two episodes change? (Do their id's stay the same - or are they both deleted / re-added?) [2]: How should one know when an episode gets deleted? (Is there a "deleted" update for episodes at the "season changes"? - for movies - deleted movies appear at /movie/changes - which makes the process really simple) [3]: Same concerns apply for seasons too - both the season and episode data that appears on tv shows / seasons don't have "id"'s listed - which makes things harder

One other challenge is that, it's not easy to verify a deleted episode/season - since you can't ping them by id, and only ping their respective /changes info by id -- I don't have a deleted season or episode id - does the deletion appear at /tv/season/{id}/changes for example?

Basically I'm trying to determine what to do in these scenarios, I'm building a product that will let users mark episodes as watched / comment on them, however if the "moviedb id"'s aren't persisted during the order changes etc. - my implementation wouldn't be sufficient

I would be glad to know all that is possible about these events, Thanks in Advance

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Hey ,

I really love the TV Shows feature, once you get into it, it has a well thought top to bottom hierarchy, there is an obvious changes logic that is to be implemented

Thanks, I tried to make it as clean as I could. TV can be very complicated though! It's not nearly as flat of a model as movie data.

  1. What happens when the order of two episodes change? (Do their id's stay the same - or are they both deleted / re-added?)

Their ids stay the same but their episode_number will get updated. This is why it's the episode_id that gets added to the associated change log.

  1. How should one know when an episode gets deleted? (Is there a "deleted" update for episodes at the "season changes"?)

Yes, there is a corresponding change in the season change log. Here's a recent example actually:

  1. Same concerns apply for seasons too - both the season and episode data that appears on tv shows / seasons don't have "id"'s listed - which makes things harder

There's an open ticket I have to add the season ids and episode ids. It will make this considerably easier since we track changes by ids.

Does the deletion appear at /tv/season/{id}/changes for example?

Yes, see the 24 example above.

if you have any more specific questions, I am happy to help answer them. The TV change section is fairly new so there could still be a few areas that need massaging (like adding those ids).

Cheers.

Thanks a lot for the quick answer, Indeed the 24 example is a great one

I also agree that tv shows are much more complex than movies (generally speaking - not specific to the moviedb design), but considering each episode is like a movie in most cases, I guess the complexity is justified

It's great to hear that the episode_id's live on

In my opinion the complexity arises from the deleted seasons/episodes / order changes - if both seasons and episodes had their own root changes methods, similar to movies/tvs/persons, the integration could have been simpler

Instead of triggering episode updates from a season for example, the updates would be triggered from /tv/episode/changes - the deletions would be simpler

Things would come together naturally (There would be no need to parse the /tv/id/changes and /tv/season/id/changes - which would simplify things a lot - I don't parse them for movies and persons for example)

However the current state/design of the API obviously handles these scenarios well - again thanks for the API - I often wish other API's similar to themoviedb existed for other stuff

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