This collection doesn't exist. Some zombie fan made it up. There is no link between any of the movies in this list. The collection should be deleted. It is messing up my XBMC collection.
There is in popular culture something known as the Trilogy of the dead thought. The three first romero zombie title. Night of the dead, Dawn of the dead and Day of the dead. But again this is nothing official it is just a popular culture thing.
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Reply by endtheme
on Januari 13, 2013 at 6:45 PM
This may very well not qualify as a collection by TMDb standards, but it's probably a good idea to get other opinions on this collection before any action is taken. If you want it deleted immediately just delete the set from XBMC. You can delete and create your own sets within XBMC
Further reading on the Living Dead series: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Living_Dead_(film_series)
Travis, TMDb community, what say you?
Reply by michaelkant
on Januari 15, 2013 at 4:47 AM
I support the idea of this collection. All of the films are by Romero and are arguably all set in the same universe. They are not direct sequels, but rather different different stories all set during the same epidemic.
Reply by endtheme
on Januari 15, 2013 at 5:04 PM
I cannot find a citation for this, but I found interviews were Romero says that at one time he intended to make sequels to Night of the Living Dead and Dawn of the Dead but decided not to. This implies there are no sequels to at least those two films, so although there is no citation to the above quote, it seems accurate.
I am personally a fan of this collection, and contributed by making the poster art. If this decision was just to satisfy my own personal needs I'd vote to keep the collection. However, to me it doesn't seem to meet the straight forward criteria of a TMDb collection -- a group of sequels -- I'd vote to have it deleted.
Reply by endtheme
on Januari 15, 2013 at 5:34 PM
I have created a George A. Romero's Dead Series list.
Reply by michaelkant
on Januari 15, 2013 at 8:12 PM
If the themoviedb collection criteria requires that the films be obvious sequels/prequels, then it should be removed. I suppose this makes sense, after seeing the ruling on Prometheus regarding the Alien Anthology, in the Collection Guidelines.
Reply by Travis Bell
on Januari 20, 2013 at 11:27 AM
Ya, I think a list is best for these. Doesn't really fit our guidelines for a collection.
Reply by Asphyx
on April 2, 2013 at 12:26 AM
Considering the fact that there are already remakes out of many of these Romero films I would very much like to keep the collection to be able to separate the originals from those remakes.
I could also point out that Clash of the Titans collection items don't really have anything to do with each other if not for the Fact Liam Neeson happens to play the same part in both movies. It's should not be about Sequel or not. it should be based on a Universe.
Reply by endtheme
on April 7, 2013 at 1:36 PM
Asphyx,
Thank you for your feedback. I personally sympathize with your preference of grouping movies, because I think I used to do it the same way, but the Romero films just don't seem to meet the content guidelines for collections as they have been defined.
The way you want to group movies by universe is not supported with collections, but is supported using lists. As pointed out above, list has already been created, or you can even make your own. If your media center software does not yet support lists, urge them to adopt this feature. If you're using XBMC, I believe you can make your own custom sets using an NFO file.
Unlike the Romero "Dead" films, Clash of the Titans and Wrath of the Titans are official sequels, and that is how they were marketed too. I am not sure why you think there is no continuity in the two movies -- it has at least three returning main characters: Perseus, Zeus, and Hades set in the same fictional universe and timeline, just a few decades after the first film in the series.
Reply by Asphyx
on April 7, 2013 at 2:00 PM
I sympathize with what you guys have to go through and regarding making these distinctions. The issue is less with how you organize but how these media programs over rely on your DB to catalog and organize these things. If they would allow you to group collections or add to the ones they come up with it would solve most if not all of my problems. XBMC does this regarding Movies being linked to TV Shows and I will write them to add this same feature to Movie groups without the need for NFO files. I actually use Twonky which does not scraping at all as my media server and use XBMC only as a front end for one room. Is there a link to a help file on how to use Lists in a scrape? Maybe my answer is there.
Reply by fastedd27
on April 7, 2013 at 8:20 PM
I'll throw my hat up for making them a collection...
thanks
Reply by ender8088
on April 27, 2013 at 10:32 AM
It is quite possible I was responsible for this one. I was not aware of the whole lists system until just now. I tried searching on the site when I first joined and didn't find much about it so I suppose I just copied what was there. I also did not remember the pop up warning when creating a collection until i just attempted to create one.
If going strictly by the guidlines then these should not be a collection, and probably many of the collections I have made fit into this although most are Comedy Stand Up Shows. Having both Lists and Collections seems a good compromise but I suppose that comes down to applications like XBMC supporting both.
Apologies for the error if it was me and I think it was. Will not happen again.
Reply by Asphyx
on April 27, 2013 at 11:15 AM
Well I am partially at fault as well because I bet I was the first to suggest there should be a feature to group movies based on their universe relationship so they could be flattened in the same way TV Shows are and I made the suggestion especially FOR a series like this (but also straight sequels) so that they would all be grouped together and played in order as opposed to huntng them down as single movies based on their Alpabetical title.
The implementation is much different (and better if you ask me) than what I had suggested which was to take a naming convention approach from the TV Show methodology where Originals of a particular universe could be noted by Title.Oxx (O for Original xx for which order it was released) and the use of Rxx-yy (R=Remake, xx=Remake of which original, yy=Remake Order) in cases of a Remake of another original. My suggestion was with this series in mind.
I think this way is better method and while you can find examples where you can debate if a set of movies are real sequels or not (I think Pet Semetary is probably one that comes to mind that are clearly sequels but do not always feature the same cast). I have no problem with how they are defining the usage. It's not really a problem of the Listing or the line drawn here on what is and is not a collection, it is a problem with the way most of the frontends use scrapers to organize and fill in info but in doing so don't let a user easily organize on his own without going outside the program and creating NFO Hint files to get it done.
The most important thing to me was to be able to group movies from a particular universe into one listing in my frontend and I say Mission Accomplished on that front.
Reply by endtheme
on April 27, 2013 at 2:14 PM
ender8088,
There are some exceptions to the collection guidelines, and I suspect collections of a comedian's stand-up comedy films are one exception. Perhaps Travis can offer his opinion on stand-up comedy collections. Other exceptions would be PPV events of the same series, eg. Wrestlemania, UFC, etc.