Zack Snyders goes off on Scott Mendelson, film critic and box office pundit for Forbes.

The BM and the JL trailer both leaked online. Guess which director has class.

Jacob Blunden: Two very different reactions to their content being leaked.....one has class, the other not so much

@Triksy said:

Zack Snyders goes off on Scott Mendelson, film critic and box office pundit for Forbes.

That guy is right. Was ZS high when he wrote that? He really thinks the crap he makes is for grownups? Depressed characters and dark colors won’t make the film a film for grownups. Try to make a 120 min film that actually makes sense. The longer the crap he makes, the bigger the chance of Martha moments and other nonsensical crap. MOS and especially BvS are full of nonsense. BvS is longer than MOS. It would be a mericacle if JL doesn’t have any.

@Blue-Rose said:

Don’t play dumb. It’s not just the editing. Is the fact that you posted it. You wouldn’t have posted it if it was about HC. PERIOD!

How can I post any bad news or rumor about HC? By the time I drop by the old hags and haters already posted it. lol If they can’t get new bad news or rumors to spread around, they’ll repost old ones or make something up, write it down on board A and on board B they’ll say that someone on board A wrote this and that. lol

@Sue-Yin said:

And GP sells crap. Goop was sued several times for lying. It has no scientific basis and it sold cosmetics containing the same harmful chemicals that the site tells people to avoid. Some of the products are dangerous for your health or body. Also, GP promotes healthy living, but she smokes.

Unfortunately, she’s not the only one. For example, many celebs attach their names to brands that use sweatshops. Apparently, even Under Armour (UA). DJ’s Project Rock is part of that brand. But according to this article, there’s more wrong with that brand.

It looks like UA is a broken company, its assortment hasn’t kept pace, its losing to Nike and Adidas, its stock plunged and it has a toxic work environment and low morale (concerning behaviors among executives and questionable treatment of female employees). Is weird that DG and DJ would partner with such a brand. I think I saw the word integrity in their IG posts.

Jacob Blunden: Two very different reactions to their content being leaked.....one has class, the other not so much

ZS should relax. lol He keeps saying that he hasn’t seen JW’s crap. So he doesn’t know that the trailer could feel the same to people who did. IMO, just some new scenes, a few new characters and a different dark color grading. That doesn’t mean that the film will be anything like JW’s. The trailer just feels kind of the same. And yes, Steppenwolf does look cool.

That guy is right. Was ZS high when he wrote that? He really thinks the crap he makes is for grownups? Depressed characters and dark colors won’t make the film a film for grownups. Try to make a 120 min film that actually makes sense. The longer the crap he makes, the bigger the chance of Martha moments and other nonsensical crap. MOS and especially BvS are full of nonsense. BvS is longer than MOS. It would be a mericacle if JL doesn’t have any.

The so-called grownups that made BvS thought the Martha moment made so much sense that they made it the most important twist in the film. lol Then, the same grownups joked in an interview about how they came with the idea because they didn’t know how to end the fight between SM and BM. lol

@Triksy said:

Zack Snyders goes off on Scott Mendelson, film critic and box office pundit for Forbes.

ZS seems to think that his JL cut is some sort of gem. The fans’ petition and campaigning seem to have gone to his head. Someone should remind him that something was seriously wrong with his films (MOS and BvS) way before that perv JW came along.

@AnnaB said:

How can I post any bad news or rumor about HC? By the time I drop by the old hags and haters already posted it. lol

Good point. I apologize for that part.

Then, the same grownups joked in an interview about how they came with the idea because they didn’t know how to end the fight between SM and BM. lol

That’s because those grownups wanted to use the name Martha no matter what. They forgot that BM, like LL and Lex, should have known who SM is, who his mom is and where she lives. The name Martha shouldn’t have any effect on him.

So ending the fight should have been easy. LL should have ended it. She should have jumped between BM and SM before BM could impale SM. While SM tries to push her out of the way, she reminds BM why he became a vigilante. She also tells BM about Martha’s kidnap and that Lex is behind everything. Finding out that he’s a pawn in Lex’s game and that Martha may die because of him affects him.

@Blue-Rose said:

Someone should remind him that something was seriously wrong with his films (MOS and BvS) way before that perv JW came along.

Someone should remind ZS of many things, because he seems to forget his own work. He changed his explanation again. Now it’s the broken mask. lol So he should be reminded how BM reacted when he heard the name Martha. No matter what he says, that reaction was stupid. BM should have known Martha is the name of CK/SM’s mom. He made it impossible for BM not to know.

1. LL finds out where CK lives be simply asking around.
2. LL lets some geek post her article about her encounter with SM all over the internet.
3. It’s broadcast on TV that LL of the Daily Planet knows who SM is. Lex knows she's CK/SM's gf.
4. BM has satellites floating around the Earth, right? I’m no tech geek, but they should have detected a weird object leaving the place where LL claims to have met the alien just a few days before her article was published, right?
5. The aliens’ first battle was in Smallville. Why that little town of all places? Smallville’s IHop and gas station were destroyed. A military plane and helicopter crashed there. It’s hard to hide that from leaking to the news.
6. BM had 18 months to do detective work.

@AnnaB said:

It looks like UA is a broken company, its assortment hasn’t kept pace, its losing to Nike and Adidas, its stock plunged and it has a toxic work environment and low morale (concerning behaviors among executives and questionable treatment of female employees). Is weird that DG and DJ would partner with such a brand.

I think they fit perfectly in that shady environment. They seem to think so too. They can work with other big brands, but they choose to stay in that crap.

1. BM has satellites floating around the Earth, right? I’m no tech geek, but they should have detected a weird object leaving the place where LL claims to have met the alien just a few days before her article was published, right?

Of course. BM is a billionaire. A spy satelite aka space-based radar (SBR) would definitely help a vigilante without super powers. An SBR can detect and track aircraft, ships etc. from space. The military detected Zod’s ship.

BM should have known Martha is the name of CK/SM’s mom. He made it impossible for BM not to know.

Why did the government arrest LL and not Martha? Because they had no idea she's CK/SM's mom. LL is the only one who heard the urban legends about the alien and started talking to friends of a friend who claimed to have seen the alien. The US government is too lazy to keep an eye on the human who saw the alien last. They have no interest in finding out more about the urban legends surrounding the employee whose background check reveals he lied. I thought background checks are done before someone’s hired.

Anyway, it should have been easier for BM to find out who CK/SM is. All he had to do was keep an eye on LL or visit the many witnesses of the first battle. He would have heard many urban legends.

@Blue-Rose said:

ZS seems to think that his JL cut is some sort of gem. The fans’ petition and campaigning seem to have gone to his head. Someone should remind him that something was seriously wrong with his films (MOS and BvS) way before that perv JW came along.

It’s too easy to say I agree. Let’s see what the critics, audience and BO numbers can tell us about ZS and the perv JW. I’ll add the amount of critics and audience too.

All Critics – Top Critics – Audience Score – Box Office – Film – Director

1. 92% (356) – 85% (59) – 91% (1,135,884) – $1,518,812,988 – TA – JW
2. 76% (366) – 75% (61) – 83% (288,635) – $1,402,805,868 – AOU – JW
3. 56% (333) – 51% (59) – 75% (448,839) – $668,045,518– MOS – ZS
4. 28% (422) – 27% (63) – 62% (234,752) – $873,634,919 – BvS – ZS

JW may be a perv, but he seems to make films that people like and want to see, when he has enough time and when it’s fully his vision.

@Sue-Yin said:

Why did the government arrest LL and not Martha? Because they had no idea she's CK/SM's mom. LL is the only one who heard the urban legends about the alien and started talking to friends of a friend who claimed to have seen the alien. The US government is too lazy to keep an eye on the human who saw the alien last. They have no interest in finding out more about the urban legends surrounding the employee whose background check reveals he lied. I thought background checks are done before someone’s hired.

ZS wants LL to be the only one who can solve complex mysteries. And when he wants something in the story, he won’t care about what happened before or what could actually work. The Martha moment in BvS would have worked if nobody else knew who CK/SM was. LL can be the only one ending up on Martha’s doorstep in MOS if the alien wasn’t caught working among the US military. Maybe ZS thinks that grownups will use  Suspension Of Disbelief (SOD) for those things. Well, I won’t.

If you want LL to be the only one finding out where the alien lives, then let the alien be caught working for a private excavation company or something like that. But don’t involve the military. If the alien is caught working among the military, the first thing they’ll think is that he was there as a spy. Unlike a private company, the military will think the alien was there to steal weapon secrets, defense strategy and other headache-inducing stuff. They won’t let it go, especially when there are urban legends about the alien. The military can’t even say the urban legends are far-fetched, because ZS let them witness the alien fly away in an 18,000 yo spaceship. Wouldn’t that make a good urban legend too?

So the paranoid US government will investigate the urban legends too. Two of those urban legends are actually true (rig and bus). So like LL, the military should have ended up on Martha’s doorstep too. You can’t expect grownups to use SOD here. If a reporter can do it, then so can the MPI. FBI, CIA, ABC, ZYX and whatever other acronym investigates stuff in the USA.

RF

So you can better understand how deep this goes: After speaking out about Justice League, I received a phone call from the President of DC Films wherein he attempted to throw Joss Whedon and Jon Berg under the bus in hopes that I would relent on Geoff Johns.

I will not.

https://twitter.com/ray8fisher/status/1301949796081696769

@Sue-Yin said:

RF

So you can better understand how deep this goes: After speaking out about Justice League, I received a phone call from the President of DC Films wherein he attempted to throw Joss Whedon and Jon Berg under the bus in hopes that I would relent on Geoff Johns.

I will not.

https://twitter.com/ray8fisher/status/1301949796081696769

RF should have kept quiet and rec. everything. Now those fools will be careful with what they do and say around him. We won’t know their true colors.

Cosmicbook

ZACK SNYDER REVEALS HARRY LENNIX AS MARTIAN MANHUNTER FOR JUSTICE LEAGUE

Snyder released what appears to be a Justice League storyboard involving a scene between Lois and Martha, where Martha is really the Martian Manhunter and then becomes General Swanwick.

SNYDER CUT REVEALS MARTIAN MANHUNTER BEHIND THE-SCENES IMAGES

The behind-the-scenes images include a look at Zack Snyder in Star Labs, the scene involving what looks to be Martian Manhunter as Ma Kent as we see Diane Lane is holding a cup of coffee which is similar to Zack's storyboards,

https://cosmicbook.news/snyder-cut-behind-scenes-images

Following Man of Steel, many fans thought Harry Lennix was playing Martian Manhunter due to two scenes.

One scene involved Superman getting interrogated where he breaks the handcuffs, and interestingly enough, Swanwick is the only person not to get scared and take a step back. Swanwick also remarks about Superman having revealed his true identity to Lois Lane, and asks, "Why won't you do the same with us?" Superman then replies back as he breaks the cuffs, "Let's put our cards on the table here, General." It's possible Superman was implying that he knew Swanwick's true identity as well.

The second scene is at the end of Man of Steel when Superman confronts Swanwick about being followed by drones. Superman tells Swanwick he has to do things his own way, and then Swanwick says, "Even if I were willing to try, what makes you think they'd listen?" Superman follows up with a seemingly cryptic response of, "I don't know, General. Guess I'll have to trust you." As I noted years ago, I personally thought that exchange between the two may have meant Superman knew Swanwick was a fellow alien - Martian Manhunter - and that's why he trusts him.

Back in 2016 actually saw Harry Lennix deny that he was Manhunter when asked, as he tweeted, "Not the Manhunter but someone else thought I should be. It would be cool."

So it appears as if either Lennix was playing coy back then, didn't know that he would become the Martian Manhunter, or Zack Snyder eventually agreed with the fan theory and was going to incorporate it in Justice League and the DCEU.

https://cosmicbook.news/zack-snyder-martian-manhunter-harry-lennix

So the extremely powerful Martian Manhunter (MM) stood by while SM fought Zod and his minions in MOS. Wait, WW and AM, who were born on Earth, didn’t help him either. Extremely bizarre for a five film plan. But I digress.

One of MM’s powers is shapeshifting. If people (and facial recognition tech) can’t detect that CK looks a lot like SM, how would they know that General Swanwick was MM? He could have helped SM, keep his human identity and the human job he likes so much.

So if MM couldn’t help SM when he was alone fighting villains his equal, why would he get involved now that WW, AM, Cyborg, Flash and BM can defend Earth? I’ll have to watch the ZS cut for the A to that Q.

JM

THIS SH*T HAS TO STOP AND NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT 
@ray8fisher AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO EXPERIENCED WHAT HAPPEN UNDER THE WATCH OF @wbpictures NEEDS PROPER INVESTIGATION
I just think it’s f*cked up that people released a fake Frosty announcement without my permission to try to distract from Ray Fisher speaking up about the shitty way we were treated on Justice League reshoots.
Serious stuff went down.
It needs to be investigated and people need to be held accountable. #IStandWithRayFisher.
aloha j

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFIevynjCfZ/

@Blue-Rose said:

So the extremely powerful Martian Manhunter (MM) stood by while SM fought Zod and his minions in MOS.

It wasn’t just a fight. Zod was also changing Earth’s climate. That would have killed every human and MM knew that. So what could Darkseid and Steppenwolf do that is worse than killing all humans? Nothing. Again, they will try to kill all humans. lol

It would be a different story if Zod just wanted humans to see him as the ruler of Earth. MM could join JL now because Darkseid and Steppenwolf want to go a step further. They want to kill everybody. lol

Screenrant

Wonder Woman 1984 Explains Why Diana Feared Superman's Resurrection in Justice League

Batman argued that aside from Superman being a great help in fending off Steppenwolf, he also believed that he could restore hope to mankind. However, Diana, being the only hero who knew first-hand what went down between him and Clark in Batman V Superman also saw his personal motive — he was still racked with guilt from Clark's death that resurrecting him could potentially ease that. Looking at what Diana's experience will be in Wonder Woman 1984, this may not be the only reason why she's against the idea.

The upcoming Jenkins sequel will also bring back Steve Trevor (Chris Pine) [...] Given what happened in World War I, it's clear that Steve's return isn't from natural causes.

So while she [Diana] doesn't want to let Steve go, she needs to accept the fact that he's dead to resolve any harmful side effects brought about by his forced return.

Given this potential experience in Wonder Woman 1984, Diana has learned that playing god and messing with the natural order of things has its unintended consequences. "Technology like any other power, without reason, without heart, it destroys us,” she argued, referring to using the Mother Box to resurrect Clark in Justice League could lead to a catastrophe. What she went through in the '80s also makes her more sensitive to Bruce's jab about Steve which was initially perceived to just be about his death in the original Wonder Woman film.

https://screenrant.com/wonder-woman-1984-steve-trevor-superman-justice-league-resurrection/

Discuss.

@AnnaB said:

It would be a different story if Zod just wanted humans to see him as the ruler of Earth. MM could join JL now because Darkseid and Steppenwolf want to go a step further. They want to kill everybody. lol

Uh-huh. I don’t understand why ZS is suddenly making Swanwick MM. That ship has sailed when he didn’t help SM in MOS.

@Triksy said:

Screenrant

Wonder Woman 1984 Explains Why Diana Feared Superman's Resurrection in Justice League

Given this potential experience in Wonder Woman 1984, Diana has learned that playing god and messing with the natural order of things has its unintended consequences.

That will only complicate matters even more. Everybody is wondering why WW didn’t help SM in MOS. In JL 2017, she tells BM that she left mankind a century ago. World War I ended in 1918. So that should explain her absence in MOS 2013. But she was fighting the Cold War in 1984.

So I think that WB will try to fix that in the Flash film. Flash will go back in time to rescue his mom and that will create several timelines. That means that WW84 will exist in a different timeline than WW 1918 – MOS 2013 – BVS 2016 – JL 2017 – AM 2018 – S! 2019. So the WW in JL 2017 shouldn’t know anything about the WW in WW84.

@Blue-Rose said:

So I think that WB will try to fix that in the Flash film. Flash will go back in time to rescue his mom and that will create several timelines. That means that WW84 will exist in a different timeline than WW 1918 – MOS 2013 – BVS 2016 – JL 2017 – AM 2018 – S! 2019. So the WW in JL 2017 shouldn’t know anything about the WW in WW84.

LL couldn’t publish an article about her encounter with SM because people would freak out. lol But why would they freak out? Many saw WW fight armed criminals in a mall. The heroine looks human, but her abilities are not.

So maybe something will erase every normal human’s memory. Still doesn’t explain why WW didn’t help SM in MOS. So something should send WW into a coma or lock her up somewhere. But why did she tell BM that she left mankind a century? Did JW come up with that or did ZS? Maybe the ZS cut has a different explanation.

@AnnaB said:

So maybe something will erase every normal human’s memory. Still doesn’t explain why WW didn’t help SM in MOS. So something should send WW into a coma or lock her up somewhere. But why did she tell BM that she left mankind a century? Did JW come up with that or did ZS? Maybe the ZS cut has a different explanation.

GJ and PJ came up with the WW84 story. Those two and David Callaham wrote it. Word is that GJ hates ZS. Apparently, he persuaded WB to give the WW films a different tone. He also didn’t want WW to be connected to the ZS films. I must say he succeeded.

If GJ really treated the cast and crew of JL badly, would GG and PJ work with him again? Walter Hamada threw JW and JB under the bus to keep GJ. Will he throw GG and PJ under the bus if they refuse to work with him? Stay tune!

Fisher says: "[Walter Hamada] did throw Joss Whedon and Jon Berg under the bus. A conversation wherein he did claim that Joss Whedon was an arsehole, that he never planned on hiring and that did not fit his vision for the future of DC Films. Quote me on that. If it’s not true, Walter, go ahead and sue me on that."