@AfterTheSnap said:

Eh, anything is possible, but I like to stick w/the obvious. Since, it quacks like a duck.

I saw this today for you to analyze. ( Look! A Smile 🤣 🙄)

I saw that video w/audio. HC was telling the man to wait afterward for something or another.

P.s: the friend who shared the link with me, tells me that whoever uploaded it said that this was inside the theater when they were waiting to go out to see the press (before the photos).

https://s5.gifyu.com/images/20200111_091120.gif

@Poetist said:

@AfterTheSnap said:

Eh, anything is possible, but I like to stick w/the obvious. Since, it quacks like a duck.

I saw this today for you to analyze. ( Look! A Smile 🤣 🙄)

I saw that video w/audio. HC was telling the man to wait afterward for something or another.

And that make her laugh? Pffff... I thought it was something else... more... funny?

https://s5.gifyu.com/images/20200111_091120.gif

https://s5.gifyu.com/images/20200111_091120.gif

Re: The above video

• As always, the feet are not pointing in the same direction.
• Heads are not, but Freni is making an effort to look where HC is looking.
• In fact, she tilts her head to HC's side. This suggests she wants to establish harmony. This can mean “Let’s be friends again.”

Or. . .

In this case, Frenie appears to be interested in HC or the conversation Generally, a tilted head shows interest and may as well be a flirt signal. If HC had tilted his head, the feeling would have been mutual.

• HC's hands are folded in front which indicates that he is feeling vulnerable. It makes sense since he's facing the press w/Frenie for the first time.
• The distance between Frenie and HC is way more than 10 inches, which indicates that they are not closely bonded to each other. Bonded people (family, close friends, and significant others) tend to stand within that ten inch zone.

Is this love or a dud?

What about this pic Poetist? Its now making the rounds but was from the Manila premiere

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8TwX_zBMUt/

What about this pic Poetist? Its now making the rounds but was from the Manila premiere

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8TwX_zBMUt/

@culinary16 said:

What about this pic Poetist? Its now making the rounds but was from the Manila premiere

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8TwX_zBMUt/

Nothing to do with body language but... those jeans do anything good to you girl. And change the bra please.

Just hold hands the first day to ignore you later? My inner gossip girl needs to know when the fight was 🤣. Because she wasn’t in Poland, or Ireland... or the water private thing.

Edit: and the fact that she wasn’t in the water party, which was HIS thing, for me it’s she is history.

@culinary16 said:

What about this pic Poetist? Its now making the rounds but was from the Manila premiere

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8TwX_zBMUt/

Well, it's definitely an old pic.

This is one pic that they seem to be in synch. Feet and gaze are all in the same direction. Of course, HC has the tight jaw for tension and the never-showing teeth look going. The chick seems to have the no smile look too.

The hand holding:

It doesn't seem as if HC is tightly squeezing her hand to show dominance, but he is leading her in this arena. It appears to be a reassurance of safety -- like I got you because I'm not new to this.

With that said, let's look at the distance.

Is there a gap?

Yes. It looks as if there is about a foot of space between the two, so they are not encroaching on each other's personal space. If they were, that would mean they are very comfortable with each other. So, just because a couple holds hands doesn't mean they are close. Their shoulders aren't brushing. It's more of a -- show -- of intimacy as opposed to an actual act of intimacy.

Is this love or a dud?

Well, we all know this didn't blossom into anything.

In one of the many instagram accounts that posted this photo, someone said that it was taken at breakfast the first day in Manila (the day that supposedly HC spend sleeping)... before all that passive aggressive display... of course just gossip... but I’ll put all my money that this was the day it all fall apart. Or at least was the drop that overthrew the glass 😂😂.

I look the way they’re holding hands. The position of her hand is anatomically neutral, but not in the same direction as HC hand (that’s also anatomically neutral). So, linked fingers are in that position really uncomfortable to hold for a long time in her case, because she would have to forced her fingers into a twisted position. And that is basic biomechanics of the human body. It’s like he is not helping much to keep that hold.

Edit: in that position and considering that she is smaller than he, just a regular hold is more confortable. Because the other option is that she is holding his fist and that’s just wrong (I can’t see clearly when zooming). On the other hand, to all the people who said that he was cold to protect her... we can see that HC didn’t have any problem with showing intimacy before with her. This just, like wisely Poetist said, didn’t blossom.

It appears to be a reassurance of safety -- like I got you because I'm not new to this.

You can see the back of the bodyguard head walking in front of them. He feels confortable following him.

Love or Dud? Here is the dud of the past but now in the present.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCrjl_piO-I/?utm_source=ig_embed

@Poetist said:

Love or Dud? Here is the dud of the past but now in the present.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCrjl_piO-I/?utm_source=ig_embed

What's wrong with people with those comments? They treat her like hell...

@AfterTheSnap said:

@Poetist said:

Love or Dud? Here is the dud of the past but now in the present.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCrjl_piO-I/?utm_source=ig_embed

What's wrong with people with those comments? They treat her like hell...

They are poor misguided souls. (I just finished watching an episode of the Alienist, so my speech pattern hasn't gotten back to normal)

@margot88 said:

@Poetist said:

Love or Dud? Here is the dud of the past but now in the present.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCrjl_piO-I/?utm_source=ig_embed

Welcome, Margot!!! Glad you came out of lurking, and your English is perfect. Don't worry about it.

Hmmm... reasons HC stays in the closet???

Personally, I think he's holding on to getting that call that says he's Supes again or 007. Since he's not the world's best actor, he hangs his hat on what has been working for him -- his looks and muscles. Plus, the adoration that he's available to women will keep some buzz around his name. In terms of the male fans, he has to appear masculine, even though gay men are masculine too, it helps to be seen like an everyday guy, who likes sports and a pint.

Of course, these are old tactics in Hollywood. A lot of the big older names in Hollywood still adhere to them: Tom Cruise, Travolta, Hugh Jackman, and etc.

@margot88 said: I heard he was out and about during his WeHo days and now everything HC does is so stiff and rehearsed, never laid back and go with the flow.

Yep, there was someone who even posted on DL that he was seen walking around with at least two bfs. Those poor beards, though.... Sometimes, I think he has bottled up anger for being in the closet. It would explain why he renigged on taking Tara to the Oscars and shouting out that Frenie isn't his gf.

@margot88 said:

Here’s interesting stories about his escapades in NYC when he was out: https://www.datalounge.com/thread/12248695

Wow, that thread is legit. It has some names of celebs that eventually came out. Good read.

Is this the mysterious blonde that's been hanging around HC.

You be the judge