Chromatica had 1 televised performance and minimal promo. Evermore also had 1 televised performance at the Grammys but she also appeared on late night TV like Jimmy Kimmel for interviews surrounding the album.

It's one thing to claim Evermore outperformed Chromatica but to lie that Taylor did zero promotion when she even did an interview with Howard Stern and then claim Gaga didn't have less promo when even her biggest haters know she paid that album dust is really not nice of you.

Btw, Evermore is at 3,089,000 units, while Chromatica is at 3,076,000 units. Gaga's album is also about to cross 2B streams so it's a decent-sized hit at the end of the day

Besides, what does "multiple collaborations with streaming giants" mean when she had one feature with Ariana? That feature did become a big hit, yes, but let's not assume a collaboration with a streaming giant automatically means you have a hit as Taylor recently collaborated with Ed Sheeran and the song tanked.

As a Gaga fan it's always nice to see her name being kept out there by someone, so thanks for being so consumed by her

@Flopgamyalgia said:

Evermore did that with ZERO BUNDLES in less time and is still charting. The thong and pillow bundled album with it's 30+ different editions can't relate.

The gap between the albums will widen over time as well.

I agree about the bundles. However, they only accounted for its first week and it wasn't more than the 100k range and only in the US. It's at 3 million total units, so it's indeed a respectable number and without the bundles it would've been at 2.9 million. It's nowhere near being a flop, let alone a 'colossal flop' as stated in the OP. That title goes to albums like The Gift by Beyoncé, Smile by Katy Perry and/or Xtina's La Fuerza.

It seems that some haters will just never acknowledge the fact that Gaga has only had disappointing/underperforming eras and never a full-fledged flop. Her lowest selling album is at 1.5 million, three-four times as much as the aforementioned cuts.

@Flopgamyalgia said:

False. In weeks 2 and 3 more bundles were released as well. I even brought it up at the time claiming she was doing it so she wouldn't have a massive 90% sales drop or something like that.

Ok, so she had them as well for week 2 and 3. Thanks for the info But even with those bundles, the album didn't sell 500k copies in week 2 or 3. Let's say it's 2.5 million units without those bundles. It's still not a flop lol.

Congrats on Gaga having 30+ different limited editions to get her stans to buy multiple copies(people even admit that is what she was doing on gagadaily) and congrats on Ariana Grande giving the album an actual hit song.

Yes, but before the bundles and the Ariana collab, the lead single and the entire beginning of the era was launched at #5 on the Hot 100 with its lead single, something the lead singles of the other albums did not have, so it's pretty safe to assume that even with bundles and an Ariana collab those albums would still not have reached Chromatica's numbers. It sounds like that's what you're implying, so just wanted to correct you on that specific detail. Hopefully that's okay

It's nowhere near being a flop, let alone a 'colossal flop' as stated in the OP. That title goes to albums like The Gift by Beyoncé, Smile by Katy Perry and/or Xtina's La Fuerza. .

Here you go again shading Xtina. You couldn’t help yourself as usual.

La Fuerza is a Spanish EP with no physicals. It didn’t have 382737 bundles re-releases and a scrapped delayed tour to help its sales.

Literally nobody was expecting any EP to slay the charts especially Spanish speaking ones.

It did extremely well for what it was.

@Rulee said:

Here you go again shading Xtina. You couldn’t help yourself as usual.

It was an example. I also added Beyoncé, another one of my faves

La Fuerza is a Spanish EP with no physicals. It didn’t have 382737 bundles re-releases and a scrapped delayed tour to help its sales.

Literally nobody was expecting any EP to slay the charts especially Spanish speaking ones.

It did extremely well for what it was.

You're right. A better example would be one of her past albums which did have bundles attached and sold much worse. Also, the Chromatica tour wasn't scrapped, only delayed.

But Xtina can't launch a solo single in the top 20 anymore. Gaga did that with her last era. That's all I'm saying. You called Chromatica a 'colossal flop' when it's not a flop at all. I didn't mean to shade Xtina, but her last album had bundles, zero solo top 10s, and a theater tour. It's not shade to claim that Gaga is way more relevant than Xtina nowadays. I'd want Xtina to have a Chromatica-sized era and you would too If Xtina had a Chromatica-sized era it would be considered a comeback for her and you know it

@mrjacs said:

@Rulee said:

Here you go again shading Xtina. You couldn’t help yourself as usual.

It was an example. I also added Beyoncé, another one of my faves

La Fuerza is a Spanish EP with no physicals. It didn’t have 382737 bundles re-releases and a scrapped delayed tour to help its sales.

Literally nobody was expecting any EP to slay the charts especially Spanish speaking ones.

It did extremely well for what it was.

You're right. A better example would be one of her past albums which did have bundles attached and sold much worse. Also, the Chromatica tour wasn't scrapped, only delayed.

But Xtina can't launch a solo single in the top 20 anymore. Gaga did that with her last era. That's all I'm saying. You called Chromatica a 'colossal flop' when it's not a flop at all. I didn't mean to shade Xtina, but her last album had bundles, zero solo top 10s, and a theater tour. It's not shade to claim that Gaga is way more relevant than Xtina nowadays. I'd want Xtina to have a Chromatica-sized era and you would too

Whew chile caught that edited babe 🪦. It was better the FIRST time.

i didn't mean to shade Xtina.

You have to get better at lying.

I gave you an example of Xtina to put a perspective on it and help you understand better. I could've given Kelly Clarkson or Avril Lavigne or even Britney as an example but I chose to go for the one you'd react to the most and that's Xtina. Not because it's direct shade but it puts things into perspective better for you

I know you don't like Gaga but we cannot deny the fact that Chromatica was a decent success and it's nowhere near flop status. It was super unfair of me to incorporate Xtina's Spanish language album which is the equivalent in mass appeal to what Gaga's jazz albums are. So I apologize for that

@Flopgamyalgia said:

For a single week and then dropped out of the top 20. NRO still outstreamed Stupid Love.

It garnered more interest in its first week because it's Gaga. Tons of other songs have also outstreamed Taylor's recent Top 5 singles as well. Their brands made them chart high in their first week but the lack of good reception from the GP is what ultimately caused their drops. Katy's brand isn't relevant enough to catapult her into the top 10 anymore as seen by her numerous other attempts but NRO outstreaming Stupid Love and, for example, Taylor's Willow is because it was received better.

You're the one that mentioned the other albums by Katy Xtina and Beyonce not me. I never said they would have had the same sales but they certainly didn't have the same sales 'tactics' either. Is Chromatica a massive bomb? No but it's not exactly a big success either when it's only hit song is due to Ariana.

Yes, it isn't a big success. No one claimed it was. But it is a successful album nonetheless. Katy pulled even more tactics during Witness (bundles, massive promo) and failed to have the same first week sales (or second or third) and ended up far behind Gaga's album in final sales.

The tactics were really just for the first week (or second and third) but it was only like 10 percent of its total at the end of the day. That said, the tactics were tacky