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They found their “Little Mermaid” actress
posted by New_DonatellaSTAFFMOD on July 3, 2019 at 5:43 PM
Halle Bailey
https://twitter.com/variety/status/1146500251890720769?s=21
And i think Melissa McCarthy was in talks to play Ursula last week and SJW twitter was mad cause they said Ursula was supposed to be a black woman. They don’t seem to mind this Ariel though lol.
Thoughts?
Reply by Cherry
on July 4, 2019 at 10:52 AM
Bob Iger was practically worshipping Gaga this whole awards season you clown!
Reply by mrjacs
on July 4, 2019 at 2:29 PM
You sure as hell like to take things out of context, don't you? Anyways, I already pointed out that other respected singer/actresses such as Barbra Streisand also put their career in music first and only make a handful of movies in a decade. Gaga's the same. Her album comes first therefore she can not just sign onto to do any movie. I get why you wouldn't understand that.
Reply by BTJ
on July 4, 2019 at 3:40 PM
Enjoying the 4th and happen to read through this thread and I'm calling bull on this.
One - Barbra actually won the Oscar her first time out. Gaga did not so to compare them is a stretch.
Two - Barbra did her first movie 1968 (Finny Girl) her second movie in 1969 (Hello Dolly) another 2 moves in 1970, another 2 movies in 1972, 1 movie a year in 73, 74,75, and 76 (Star is Born) with another in 79. That's 10/11 movies in the decade from which she debuted which is more than double a handful (5) - so what you just said is not factually accurate.
If Gaga was on Barbras career trajectory she would have several movies in development and would have a movie coming out this year or at the very least cast in something coming out next year (where she has a starring lead role ala Hello Dolly - and not playing a secondary role playing a repulsive creature ala Guadians).
Of course theres a little fact that Barbra can act (and sing) circles around Gaga so producers were actaully knocking down her door after "Funny Girl - Gags not so much.
Reply by mrjacs
on July 4, 2019 at 4:16 PM
Not the point. This is about Gaga having other stuff besides acting that she has planned on doing this year and it would be impossible to record an album, release it, give it maximum promo while doing shows AND shoot a movie. That's too much for anyone.
Barbra recorded her albums in between her movies. Very rarely did she have movies AND albums co-existing in the same time frame and she did a movie one year and an album the other. For example, she did a movie in 1968, an album in 1969, an album in 1971 and a movie in 1972. Not to mention she recorded 36 albums and only 19 movies in her career. But then an album "era" wasn't anywhere near as time consuming as it is today.
Even if we look at others such as Cher who had 18 movies and 28 solo albums. After breaking through in movies, she had a break in her recording career in order to focus on her film career. Again, probably because it's hard to have them co-exist. And even then, she had one movie project every two years after receiving her first Oscar nod. She didn't have five movies lined up at all. It took over a year after her first Oscar nod before she even had any project whatsoever. It has been roughly four months since Gaga had her moment at the Oscars and you expect her to have several projects lined up for when exactly?
Reply by BTJ
on July 4, 2019 at 4:34 PM
Well YOU compared her to Barbra. Barbra had movies lines up (and ready to release the following year) 4 months from her Oscar WIN (NOT an Oscar moment but WIN) so if Gaga cant compete then why use Barbra as an example when she is out of Gagas league?
I mean if 4 months to secure a movie is such an unrealistic standard then maybe you shouldnt have used a woman (Barbra) as an example if that example is unattainable for Gaga.
Plus you didnt address the fact that Barbra did more tha a handful (your words) of movies when she did 11 which is double what you initially stated.
Also is funny you use Barbra as an example and when i point out that she had several movies in development and her second film was released the following year after her win you now want to dump Barbra and focus on Cher as an example. I guess if I were to point out that Cher had more movies lined up in her career than Gaga based on their respective career trajectory you would move onto using Tina Turner as an example.
Anyway Barbra did have 2 movies that were released in 1970 which would mean that she spent 1969 filming at least one of them - and also promoted an album at the same time - in addition to promoting another film (Hello Dolly). The very same year that she promoted an album and filmed 1 (or maybe even 2 movies) movie to be released in 1970. So maybe Barbra wasnt the best example since she would have to have been recording an album, filming 2 movies, and promoting Hello Dolly all in 1968-69 the same year she won her Oscar for Funny Girl in which she also had to delegate time to campaign.
Many people have released an album and had a movie out and have promoted both successfully.
Plus Flopga stated why she didnt have movies in development - which is a valid question. You said she couldn't do a movie and an album at the same time (which is BS because it has been done before) however even if I give you that it still has no bearing as to why she has no movies in development - she has an agent, a manager and is signed to an agency (ala CAA, William Morris, or whatever agency reps her) . Their job is to secure projects for her as a client.
If she was following this movie star trajectory ala Barbra Streisand she should have several movies (as in at least 2 or 3) in which she is the lead star in development.
Reply by mrjacs
on July 4, 2019 at 5:01 PM
When Barbra released her movie/album an album "era" wasn't anywhere as time consuming as it is now and she wasn't signed on to do a full on Vegas residency. Not to mention those Barbra albums you talk about were filled with covers and she had no input in writing those said albums. The way you choose to ignore that...
Barbra had it FAR easier the few times she had a movie out at the same time she had an album out. For one, she didn't tour, she wasn't committed to doing a residency nor did she write or produce her albums let alone promote it nearly as much as artists do nowadays.
No. Because Gaga is involved in the making of her next album from the early stages (unlike Barbra) and needs to do shows in Vegas along with music videos and promoting the singles as well as potentially rehearsing and doing a tour around the world, she doesn't have projects in development because they require time she doesn't have right now. Barbra had time because all she did was record her vocals and barely promote the album while shooting and releasing a movie. Not the same at all. If Barbra - who may be more talented than Gaga - can barely have multiple movie projects in development because of her music career, then neither can Gaga who actually writes and records original material and promotes the sh!t out of her music while playing concerts. You need to understand this.
Any way, at the end of the day Gaga will have a movie lined up, maybe more. I'm sure as soon as she's finished with the upcoming era she'll have time to dive into acting again. Right now, she's got enough on her plate, certainly more than Barbra had when she was joggling between recording albums and doing movies
Reply by BTJ
on July 4, 2019 at 5:22 PM
So first you say this:
An use Barbra as an example of why Gaga has no movies in development because shes just too busy. And now when its pointed out that Barbra even while being busy was able to film 2 movies record an album promote said album promote another film AND campaign for an Oscar all with a 1-2 year time frame you now contradict yourself and state this:
Basically saying that had it easy than Gaga and that Gaga works harder - which is the exact opposite of what you said earlier when you used Barbra as an example of hardworking and compared her to Gaga as to why she had no roles lined up.
Lmao- I cant make this up. Make up your mind is Barbra an example of the busy hardworking woman that you first used to compare Gaga to or someone who just sang covers and had no input on any of her music ?
Barbra having no input (your words again) on her music has nothing to do with her campaigning filming 2 movies and promoting another movie all in a year.
But again YOU used Barbra as an example as to why Gaga had no films lined up as in Barbra and Gaga were both so busy at the same time in their careers. You even said that Barbra was so busy recording albums and movies alternately which is why she only had a handful of movies in the decade (which I pointed out is not factually true since she did 11 movies in the decade following her win) Now youre saying "Barbra had time because all she did was record her vocals and barely promote the album". Barbra didnt barley have multiple movie projects she did basically 1 movie a year for 11 years - thats not "can barely have multiple movie projects in development because of her music career". A movie a year is not "barley" even in the 1960s and 70s.
Those are direct contridictions. Either Barbra was busy recording albums and movies alternately which would account for you saying she only had a handful.of movies or Barbra had time because "all she did was record vocals and barely promote the albums"
Which is it?
Reply by mrjacs
on July 4, 2019 at 6:06 PM
Listen, you entered this discussion not knowing what it’s actually about. Flopga compared Gaga to Melissa McCarthy who has five movies lined up. That’s an idiotic comparison because Melissa doesn’t do anything besides movies. She doesn’t record albums or play concerts. Instead I then opted to compare Gaga to other singer/actresses to show Flopga that they can’t be compared to normal actresses because of how time consuming music careers are. Melissa McCarthy also has more movies lined up than Barbra ever had, for example.
I said a ‘handful of movies’ because compared to others it’s almost nothing. Other actresses have 100 movie projects over the course of 50 years - Barbra has 19, Cher has 18. Why? Because they have a music career. Normal actresses have multiple projects in development yearly, something you fail to understand Barbra has never had. She couldn’t have because she’s only made 19 movies over the span of 50 years. So to expect Gaga has to have what McCartney has or else “no one is interested in her” is failed logic. Neither Barbra or Cher ever had more than 1-2 movies in development YEARLY but even those were rare because they couldn’t sign up for five projects due to their music career. Why expect Gaga to have that???
Then I said that Barbra had it easier to have those 1-2 movies in development because her music career didn’t consist of writing and touring. Gaga’s does. It takes months to do an album, then a couple of months to do the promo/tour and then she also has her Vegas shows. To also expect her to be signed for five movies, shooting them in between all that in just a year is plain stupid.
Do you seriously expect Gaga to? FYI, movies “in development” are projects that the respective actor is signed up for already, why would Gaga sign up for five movies if she doesn’t have the time to shoot them? I’m utterly shocked at this logic.
Reply by BTJ
on July 4, 2019 at 6:30 PM
I didnt entertain the Gaga - Melissa McCartney. I gave my opinion when you mentioned Barbra and compared her to Gaga. Barbra was a bad example because she was able to do multiple things i.e film, record, promote, and campaign for an Oscar all in a 1 to 2 year time frame. You thought she was a good example which is why YOU brought her up then decided she was a bad example which is why you changed your tune and said she had all the time in the world because she only records vocals and has limited musical input.
I dont expect Gaga to be Melissa McCarthy. But you didnt just say "handful of movies" as it applies to a 50 year career when compared to other actresses who dont record albums you said "handful of movies a decade" when making the comparison which is false since I already stated for a 3rd post in a row that Barbra did 11 movies in the decade from which she debuted. That's on par with other actresses such as Liz Taylor and Shorley Maclaine - who did not have to record albums as well as make movies during those years.
Movies take years to develop (unless a lead like Beyonce drops out and another singer/actress picks it up)
Barbra released films in 1968, 1969, 2 in 1970 and 2 in 1972 that's 6 movies in 4 years - which means she more than likely had several as in more than 2 or 3 in development at the same time during the start of her movie career when she won her Oscar. It goes back to my original point that even though Gaga is busy - why are there no movies in development since she filmed STAR IS Born in 2017? So even though it's been 4 months since her Oscar loss shes had 2 years to line up other film projects not withstanding she has a team of people who's job it is to line up film roles for her if she was in great demand by Hollywood producers. Shes busy recording an album and has a Vegas show to do but what about lining up something for 2020 or 2021 - if she was following in Barbras footsteps she would already have something lined up for the future.
I never said 5 movies - but she doesnt even have 1 starring role lined up. One. That's odd for someone who's trying to make it as a big movie actress who just was accepted into the academy. I mean you dont think it's odd that CAA or William Morris have nothing lined up for such a "great actress in demand" like Gaga?
Reply by mrjacs
on July 4, 2019 at 7:41 PM
Barbra's 11 movies at most is still lower than other non-singers like the ones you previously mentioned who all had 11+ movies. Point is, all in all Barbra only made 19 movies in 50 years because she was a singer first and foremost. Every single music artist that dives into acting has less projects going on than normal actors. She still only had a 'handful' of movies in 50 years. You still can't ignore the fact that she had it easier with recording albums as she wasn't involved in anything other than the vocals AND an album cycle wasn't as time consuming as it is now. I still would like to know how Gaga would fit in a movie right now with all the other stuff she's got going on?
No, but that's what this discussion was initially about. But as you said, we might as well turn that around: why shouldn't an actress who was just accepted into the academy have movie roles offered? She obviously has but she's said no to all of them, hence why she doesn't have movies in development. My guess is she doesn't have the time. Her next album cycle will probably last well into 2020, so AGAIN why would she have time for a movie that year as well?
2019: New album release + Vegas shows
2020: New world tour + Vegas shows
2021: Movie project
She doesn't need to have a movie lined up when it's two-three years away from now. Again, there's no way an actress who was nominated for an Oscar and has joined the Academy has zero offers. No f_cking way.
Reply by BTJ
on July 4, 2019 at 8:02 PM
But you didnt say a handful of movies in 50 years. This is what you said:
You said handful of movies in a decade. From 1968 to 1978 is a decade (10 years). In those 10 years Barbra had 10 movies I which she starred and headlined. 10 movies is more than a handful. A handful is 5 since a hand has 5 fingers. Why does everything need to be broken down and explained to you as if I was explaining something to a child? You do have moments of clarity at times so I'm not sure why this is hard to grasp.
When you say that Barbra only did a handful of movies in a decade that was not a factual statement.
I never said she wasnt offered any movie roles - I mean even Tara Reid is still offered movie roles (Sharknado) so im sure Gaga is getting offers - whether they are Oscar caliber Meryl Streep offers or headlining star making vehicles like Barbra got has yet to be seen.
Most actresses have movies lined up 5 years in advance.
Things can change in that span of time when Gaga may have to drop out a film she was attached to like many actresses do and just like Beyonce did with Star is Born however that does not mean that a "highly sought actress" that producers and directors are "fighting to cast in their movies" like Gaga (lol) wouldn't have things lined up 5 years out.
My only conclusion is that they are not very good offers since no actress who is serious about her career would turn down plum roles at her peak. If she was getting great offers then I would assume like Barbra she would have things lined up like she did post 1968.
Since she doesnt have anything lined up I can only assume those offers are on par with the GOTGalaxy offer which does not scream "in demand" Hollywood actress the way Emma Stone was in demand during her Oscar "moment" (and WIN).
Reply by High King
on July 5, 2019 at 6:23 PM
Jesus Christ we can’t even have a discussion about The Little Mermaid without you guys arguing about Lady Gaga and writing essays at each other.
Reply by tmdb80522280
on July 5, 2019 at 7:44 PM
Speaking of mermaid they sign something with many signatures to replace her as Ariel white Twitter is mad