@mrjacs said:

@LadyFlopgaCocaineQueen said:

Everyone with half a brain knows that if The Shallows was on the Joe N. album instead of the ASIB soundtrack the song would have been just another flop for Gaga because the movie made the song a hit just like Million Discounts would have flopped without the Super Bowl. Gaga can't get a regular hit single anymore without some sort of insane promo to back it up. Rihanna can.

Rihanna got DRAKE on her track and that was also the ONLY single that became a hit. The two singles prior to Work all flopped, so did her soundtrack (ironic, isn't?) and everything post-Work didn't smash anywhere else in the world. And the only single that somewhat became a hit LOTB was a hit because of radio as its sales and stream stats show. It was the Close To Me of 2016 (HUGE on radio, non-existent sales). So while yes, I'm sure a big part of Gaga's comeback is her movie, I'm also certain Work benefited HUGELY from Drake being on it as both his album and songs in 2016 DESTROYED anything Rihanna released.

Huh? What part of Needed Me and LOTB outselling Shallow in pure sales did you not get? LOTB was a radio hit but the sales were definitely existent. How can you sit here and downplay LOTB as a hit by saying it was a “radio only” when it outstreamed every Gaga song pre-Shallow and sold the same as Shallow in pure? With absolutely zero promo or push? You truly baffle me lol.

Shallow would've flopped on Joanne, yes. But... so? It was still much *bigger than anything Rihanna has released since like 2012 and it's also quite arguably bigger than anything on ANTI as is the whole ASIB era. * Even when we established that to be false you keep going. TIWYCF alone is bigger than any Gaga hit since TEOG but okay. I know you want to act like TIWYCF doesn’t exist but it does and it is apart of the Anti era whether you want to accept it or not. The WW sales speak for themselves. Shallow hasn’t even sold 6M WW in SPS while TIWYCF is well over 12M. Hell even Work sold nearly 11M WW.

The only thing the ASIB era did that Anti didn’t do is win awards, as well as sell more copies WW. But seeing that it was attached to an already established famous film while Anti was a stand alone project, it makes sense. But in terms of records sold, units pushed, and chart positions for the hit singles (plural is the key word) the Anti era wins.

But you want to deny numbers so there’s no point. To you Gaga is the second coming of Christ and every thing she does is exaggerated to fit whatever point you try to make so you’ll find an excuse to diminish or completely undermine and even ignore Rihanna’s success. I mean I’m talking to someone that swore up and down that Anti was flop but had nothing but excuses about Beyoncé’s recent flubs. And then when proven the Anti era was a success you either have no comment or deflect to something else. You set your faves to totally different standards and can’t accept truth. I’ve admitted to my faves flop singles or albums but you’ll do a whole Ring-Around-the-Rosie when it comes to yours.

Anyways I don’t even like comparing Anti to ASIB and don’t think it’s fair for BOTH artists since they aren’t even on the same timeline of release but if you go there so will I.

@PlasticPrada said:

Huh? What part of Needed Me and LOTB outselling Shallow in pure sales did you not get? LOTB was a radio hit but the sales were definitely existent. How can you sit here and downplay LOTB as a hit by saying it was a “radio only” when it outstreamed every Gaga song pre-Shallow and sold the same as Shallow in pure? With absolutely zero promo or push? You truly baffle me lol.

Needed Me flopped WW. This whole discussion has been about the era as a whole WORLDWIDE. You constantly making it about the US is what baffles me. Is it because it's the only territory that truly matched ASIB? Lol, thought so...

Not you comparing Shallow which is still selling to a song that's been DOA three years now. Needed Me will NOT outsell Shallow and neither will Love On The Brain. And WTF is zero promo or push exactly when Rihanna performed the song at the American Music Awards? What kind of ignorant statement is that.

Even when we established that to be false you keep going. TIWYCF alone is bigger than any Gaga hit since TEOG but okay. I know you want to act like TIWYCF doesn’t exist but it does and it is apart of the Anti era whether you want to accept it or not. The WW sales speak for themselves. Shallow hasn’t even sold 6M WW in SPS while TIWYCF is well over 12M. Hell even Work sold nearly 11M WW.

No, they did NOT sell 11M or 12M WW you idiot. Give me the receipts. You seem to forget that Shallow's sales haven't been updated and it's still selling WW. It'll be well over 6M once the dust settles. I'll make sure to drag you with that.

The only thing the ASIB era did that Anti didn’t do is win awards, as well as sell more copies WW. But seeing that it was attached to an already established famous film while Anti was a stand alone project, it makes sense. But in terms of records sold, units pushed, and chart positions for the hit singles (plural is the key word) the Anti era wins.

Studio albums from major artists usually sell more copies than soundtrack albums. Not you trying to act like ASIB or TGS is the standard. Somehow Rihanna managed to outsell the Trolls soundtrack and the Fifty Shades Of Grey soundtrack but could not compete with ASIB? Excuses, excuses, excuses.

ASIB has sold more copies and Shallow was bigger than anything from ANTI. You can pull numbers out of your @ss but last I checked Shallow was close to entering the ALL TIME CHART on Mediatraffic and is still selling. So your comparisons and logic goes down the toilet. I'll make sure to flush it soon enough

@LadyFlopgaCocaineQueen said:

@mrjacs said:

@PlasticPrada said:

Huh? What part of Needed Me and LOTB outselling Shallow in pure sales did you not get? LOTB was a radio hit but the sales were definitely existent. How can you sit here and downplay LOTB as a hit by saying it was a “radio only” when it outstreamed every Gaga song pre-Shallow and sold the same as Shallow in pure? With absolutely zero promo or push? You truly baffle me lol.

Needed Me flopped WW. This whole discussion has been about the era as a whole WORLDWIDE. You constantly making it about the US is what baffles me.

Yeah PlasticPrada!

Thread Title: "Rihanna's Anti has spent 171 weeks on Billboard 200"

How did you not get that everything in this thread is about WORLDWIDE sales like JacOff says?!?

IM SCREAMING LMFAO

@LadyFlopgaCocaineQueen said:

Yeah PlasticPrada!

Thread Title: "Rihanna's Anti has spent 171 weeks on Billboard 200"

How did you not get that everything in this thread is about WORLDWIDE sales like JacOff says?!?

Well, Plastic posted ANTI's WW numbers and sales first so she knew