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Great movie but this one deviates furthest from the books than any of the versions of Dune

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@wonder2wonder said:

@northcoast said:

@Kurtzmansucks said:

Shockingly so actually on first viewing i was only willing to give it a 6 because book brain took over on second viewing just going to enjoy it on its own merits i give it a high 7 low 8 Chani being so out of character really detracted from any higher score

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Kurtzman--

I've been thinking about that, too, but, it is possible that if Dune Messiah goes forward, the original storyline might still be followed:

Paul's marriage to Princess Irulan was celibate in the books, only undertaken for political reasons. In the following film, I could see where Paul returns to Chani and she has his twin children, as happened in the book. Of course, in the book Chani does not survive the delivery. I don't know if Villeneuve will stick with that particular part of the storyline, given the fact that he seems to want to elevate her importance over Paul in the story, but perhaps we'll see . . . then again, if Dune Messiah never gets made, I'll be satisfied with the three films we have now.


Yes, it is easy to have Chani return in the sequel and die. Those who have not read the books will be shocked by this outcome, but if they are Star Wars fans, they might remember the prequel trilogy: Padmé Amidala dies after the birth of the twins Luke and Leia. Of course, in this case you won't expect Paul to become as evil as Anakin Skywalker.



I think those who just really have not been happy with the films might have to accept that the Dune saga, at its core, is among the group of books that are, essentially, unfilm-able. In this case the differences in artistic form between literature and cinema might just be too big a chasm to bridge.


It seems that almost everyone, even the usual 'negative' critics - who are rating it 9-9.5 out of 10 stars - are quite happy with this movie, and hope to see more about the Dune Universe. This time they don't mind the differences between book and movie.

But she also DID NOT leave Paul after he married Irulan in the books!

@bratface said:

@wonder2wonder said:

@northcoast said:

@Kurtzmansucks said:

Shockingly so actually on first viewing i was only willing to give it a 6 because book brain took over on second viewing just going to enjoy it on its own merits i give it a high 7 low 8 Chani being so out of character really detracted from any higher score

--SPOILERS FOLLOW IN THIS DISCUSSION--

Kurtzman--

I've been thinking about that, too, but, it is possible that if Dune Messiah goes forward, the original storyline might still be followed:

Paul's marriage to Princess Irulan was celibate in the books, only undertaken for political reasons. In the following film, I could see where Paul returns to Chani and she has his twin children, as happened in the book. Of course, in the book Chani does not survive the delivery. I don't know if Villeneuve will stick with that particular part of the storyline, given the fact that he seems to want to elevate her importance over Paul in the story, but perhaps we'll see . . . then again, if Dune Messiah never gets made, I'll be satisfied with the three films we have now.


Yes, it is easy to have Chani return in the sequel and die. Those who have not read the books will be shocked by this outcome, but if they are Star Wars fans, they might remember the prequel trilogy: Padmé Amidala dies after the birth of the twins Luke and Leia. Of course, in this case you won't expect Paul to become as evil as Anakin Skywalker.



I think those who just really have not been happy with the films might have to accept that the Dune saga, at its core, is among the group of books that are, essentially, unfilm-able. In this case the differences in artistic form between literature and cinema might just be too big a chasm to bridge.


It seems that almost everyone, even the usual 'negative' critics - who are rating it 9-9.5 out of 10 stars - are quite happy with this movie, and hope to see more about the Dune Universe. This time they don't mind the differences between book and movie.

But she also DID NOT leave Paul after he married Irulan in the books!



It's a movie, so it ended that way, for now, to keep it interesting for the sequel. But, as in any love story, the woman will change her mind, forgive him, and return to stand by her man.

Yes exactly, the film didn't explicitly say Chani left forever. If Villeneuve makes the next film he'd be mad to let that be the truth.

Also to those who say Dune: Part Two deviates further from the books than anything else, I have two words for you: weirding module.

@Paradroid said:

Yes exactly, the film didn't explicitly say Chani left forever. If Villeneuve makes the next film he'd be mad to let that be the truth.

Also to those who say Dune: Part Two deviates further from the books than anything else, I have two words for you: weirding module.

haha Lynch doing Lynch shit haha was still closer to the books thought than the newest one better no but more faithful yes

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