I’d have to agree. Nearly every piece of marketing refers to it as “The Fantastic Four: First Steps” and really only the logo refers to it as “The Fantastic 4: First Steps” (which likely uses the number to make it more visually appealing, and works better for spacing) but I don’t personally think that overrides the other name given and shown everywhere (buying tickets, rotten tomatoes, marketing, etc)

To also use another FF movie as an example, The name and logo of Fantastic Four (2015) is “FANT4STIC” but it’s called Fantastic Four on here, rotten tomatoes, marketing, etc

@kikao123 said:

Title should be "The Fantastic Four: First Steps" not "The Fantastic 4: First Steps". All official Disney and Marvel sources refer to the movie as "The Fantastic Four: First Steps", so the recent change to "The Fantastic 4: First Steps" appears unwarranted.

According to this report, and the image the user provided, the on-screen title is "The Fantastic 4: First Steps."

@TheHypercane said:

I’d have to agree. Nearly every piece of marketing refers to it as “The Fantastic Four: First Steps” and really only the logo refers to it as “The Fantastic 4: First Steps” (which likely uses the number to make it more visually appealing, and works better for spacing) but I don’t personally think that overrides the other name given and shown everywhere (buying tickets, rotten tomatoes, marketing, etc)

To also use another FF movie as an example, The name and logo of Fantastic Four (2015) is “FANT4STIC” but it’s called Fantastic Four on here, rotten tomatoes, marketing, etc

From a quick glance at the 2015 film, the on-screen title for that one appears in the end credits and is "Fantastic Four," which is probably why that's used as the original title instead of Fant4stic.

@raze464 said:

@kikao123 said:

Title should be "The Fantastic Four: First Steps" not "The Fantastic 4: First Steps". All official Disney and Marvel sources refer to the movie as "The Fantastic Four: First Steps", so the recent change to "The Fantastic 4: First Steps" appears unwarranted.

According to this report, and the image the user provided, the on-screen title is "The Fantastic 4: First Steps."

@TheHypercane said:

I’d have to agree. Nearly every piece of marketing refers to it as “The Fantastic Four: First Steps” and really only the logo refers to it as “The Fantastic 4: First Steps” (which likely uses the number to make it more visually appealing, and works better for spacing) but I don’t personally think that overrides the other name given and shown everywhere (buying tickets, rotten tomatoes, marketing, etc)

To also use another FF movie as an example, The name and logo of Fantastic Four (2015) is “FANT4STIC” but it’s called Fantastic Four on here, rotten tomatoes, marketing, etc

From a quick glance at the 2015 film, the on-screen title for that one appears in the end credits and is "Fantastic Four," which is probably why that's used as the original title instead of Fant4stic.

I'm unclear on the criteria being used here. Does the title card in the film take precedence in determining the official title? Are we disregarding all other official sources in favor of how it's stylized on screen? While the movie may be visually presented as The Fantastic 4: First Steps, Disney and Marvel consistently refer to it as The Fantastic Four: First Steps, as evidenced by this image taken from the official poster.

I'm unclear on the criteria being used here. Does the title card in the film take precedence in determining the official title?

Yeah. From the Contribution Bible: "The original title should always be the title used in the original version of the film. ... When the promotional material use slightly different titles (e.g. Twelve Monkeys vs 12 Monkeys), we try to use the title as it is written in the original on-screen opening credits."

@RNL said:

I'm unclear on the criteria being used here. Does the title card in the film take precedence in determining the official title?

Yeah. From the Contribution Bible: "The original title should always be the title used in the original version of the film. ... When the promotional material use slightly different titles (e.g. Twelve Monkeys vs 12 Monkeys), we try to use the title as it is written in the original on-screen opening credits."

That approach seems potentially problematic, and an example that comes to mind where this rule isn’t consistently applied is "Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery". The on-screen title displays only "Glass Onion", yet the official title has not been adjusted to reflect that. Why is that case treated differently?

The guideline isn't followed consistently. Dune: Part One, Wicked: Part I, and Rogue One are other examples where it's arbitrarily ignored.

I suppose the distinction here is that it's about a difference between the word 'four' and the numeral '4', as opposed to the inclusion/exclusion of a promotional subtitle, and that's explicitly the example given in the guideline re: 12/Twelve Monkeys

But I agree that Glass Onion and all the others should be changed to reflect the onscreen titles. Same standard is used on IMDb.

If we're using the original title displayed in the film itself - then the '4' used on here needs to be the emoji version of the '4' in a circle. Everything Disney/Marvel refers to the title as "The Fantastic Four: First Steps" - I don't see a numerical '4' used in any official URL or written word material, it's always 'four'. Another thing, if we're using the same standard as IMDb - it is named "The Fantastic Four: First Steps" on IMDb.

@footiemadman007 said:

If we're using the original title displayed in the film itself - then the '4' used on here needs to be the emoji version of the '4' in a circle.

Well that's just graphic design, it's not the distinction between a word and a numeral, which is the example scenario given in the guideline re: 12/Twelve Monkeys - it says to consult the onscreen title.

Everything Disney/Marvel refers to the title as "The Fantastic Four: First Steps" - I don't see a numerical '4' used in any official URL or written word material, it's always 'four'.

Don't think this really matters, as the onscreen title supercedes any promo or press materials.

Another thing, if we're using the same standard as IMDb - it is named "The Fantastic Four: First Steps" on IMDb.

It is currently, but that's not reflective of the site standards. IMDb's standard is to always use the onscreen title where possible, so it will be changed once someone submits a correction. This often happens with films that use a slightly different title in promo materials; the onscreen title has to be verified after release, so the listing is wrong for a while. This happened with F1: The Movie (now F1), Wicked (now Wicked: Part I), Dune (now Dune: Part One), Glass Onion: A Knives Out Story (now Glass Onion), Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (now Rogue One), and many others.