I’d have to agree. Nearly every piece of marketing refers to it as “The Fantastic Four: First Steps” and really only the logo refers to it as “The Fantastic 4: First Steps” (which likely uses the number to make it more visually appealing, and works better for spacing) but I don’t personally think that overrides the other name given and shown everywhere (buying tickets, rotten tomatoes, marketing, etc)

To also use another FF movie as an example, The name and logo of Fantastic Four (2015) is “FANT4STIC” but it’s called Fantastic Four on here, rotten tomatoes, marketing, etc

@kikao123 said:

Title should be "The Fantastic Four: First Steps" not "The Fantastic 4: First Steps". All official Disney and Marvel sources refer to the movie as "The Fantastic Four: First Steps", so the recent change to "The Fantastic 4: First Steps" appears unwarranted.

According to this report, and the image the user provided, the on-screen title is "The Fantastic 4: First Steps."

@TheHypercane said:

I’d have to agree. Nearly every piece of marketing refers to it as “The Fantastic Four: First Steps” and really only the logo refers to it as “The Fantastic 4: First Steps” (which likely uses the number to make it more visually appealing, and works better for spacing) but I don’t personally think that overrides the other name given and shown everywhere (buying tickets, rotten tomatoes, marketing, etc)

To also use another FF movie as an example, The name and logo of Fantastic Four (2015) is “FANT4STIC” but it’s called Fantastic Four on here, rotten tomatoes, marketing, etc

From a quick glance at the 2015 film, the on-screen title for that one appears in the end credits and is "Fantastic Four," which is probably why that's used as the original title instead of Fant4stic.

@raze464 said:

@kikao123 said:

Title should be "The Fantastic Four: First Steps" not "The Fantastic 4: First Steps". All official Disney and Marvel sources refer to the movie as "The Fantastic Four: First Steps", so the recent change to "The Fantastic 4: First Steps" appears unwarranted.

According to this report, and the image the user provided, the on-screen title is "The Fantastic 4: First Steps."

@TheHypercane said:

I’d have to agree. Nearly every piece of marketing refers to it as “The Fantastic Four: First Steps” and really only the logo refers to it as “The Fantastic 4: First Steps” (which likely uses the number to make it more visually appealing, and works better for spacing) but I don’t personally think that overrides the other name given and shown everywhere (buying tickets, rotten tomatoes, marketing, etc)

To also use another FF movie as an example, The name and logo of Fantastic Four (2015) is “FANT4STIC” but it’s called Fantastic Four on here, rotten tomatoes, marketing, etc

From a quick glance at the 2015 film, the on-screen title for that one appears in the end credits and is "Fantastic Four," which is probably why that's used as the original title instead of Fant4stic.

I'm unclear on the criteria being used here. Does the title card in the film take precedence in determining the official title? Are we disregarding all other official sources in favor of how it's stylized on screen? While the movie may be visually presented as The Fantastic 4: First Steps, Disney and Marvel consistently refer to it as The Fantastic Four: First Steps, as evidenced by this image taken from the official poster.

I'm unclear on the criteria being used here. Does the title card in the film take precedence in determining the official title?

Yeah. From the Contribution Bible: "The original title should always be the title used in the original version of the film. ... When the promotional material use slightly different titles (e.g. Twelve Monkeys vs 12 Monkeys), we try to use the title as it is written in the original on-screen opening credits."

@RNL said:

I'm unclear on the criteria being used here. Does the title card in the film take precedence in determining the official title?

Yeah. From the Contribution Bible: "The original title should always be the title used in the original version of the film. ... When the promotional material use slightly different titles (e.g. Twelve Monkeys vs 12 Monkeys), we try to use the title as it is written in the original on-screen opening credits."

That approach seems potentially problematic, and an example that comes to mind where this rule isn’t consistently applied is "Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery". The on-screen title displays only "Glass Onion", yet the official title has not been adjusted to reflect that. Why is that case treated differently?

The guideline isn't followed consistently. Dune: Part One, Wicked: Part I, and Rogue One are other examples where it's arbitrarily ignored.

I suppose the distinction here is that it's about a difference between the word 'four' and the numeral '4', as opposed to the inclusion/exclusion of a promotional subtitle, and that's explicitly the example given in the guideline re: 12/Twelve Monkeys

But I agree that Glass Onion and all the others should be changed to reflect the onscreen titles. Same standard is used on IMDb.

If we're using the original title displayed in the film itself - then the '4' used on here needs to be the emoji version of the '4' in a circle. Everything Disney/Marvel refers to the title as "The Fantastic Four: First Steps" - I don't see a numerical '4' used in any official URL or written word material, it's always 'four'. Another thing, if we're using the same standard as IMDb - it is named "The Fantastic Four: First Steps" on IMDb.

@footiemadman007 said:

If we're using the original title displayed in the film itself - then the '4' used on here needs to be the emoji version of the '4' in a circle.

Well that's just graphic design, it's not the distinction between a word and a numeral, which is the example scenario given in the guideline re: 12/Twelve Monkeys - it says to consult the onscreen title.

Everything Disney/Marvel refers to the title as "The Fantastic Four: First Steps" - I don't see a numerical '4' used in any official URL or written word material, it's always 'four'.

Don't think this really matters, as the onscreen title supercedes any promo or press materials.

Another thing, if we're using the same standard as IMDb - it is named "The Fantastic Four: First Steps" on IMDb.

It is currently, but that's not reflective of the site standards. IMDb's standard is to always use the onscreen title where possible, so it will be changed once someone submits a correction. This often happens with films that use a slightly different title in promo materials; the onscreen title has to be verified after release, so the listing is wrong for a while. This happened with F1: The Movie (now F1), Wicked (now Wicked: Part I), Dune (now Dune: Part One), Glass Onion: A Knives Out Story (now Glass Onion), Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (now Rogue One), and many others.

Please see: https://www.marvel.com/movies/the-fantastic-four-first-steps

Set against the vibrant backdrop of a 1960s-inspired, retro-futuristic world, Marvel Studios’ 'The Fantastic Four: First Steps' introduces Marvel’s First Family—Reed Richards/Mister Fantastic, Sue Storm/Invisible Woman, Johnny Storm/Human Torch and Ben Grimm/The Thing as they face their most daunting challenge yet.

I came here to report the same issue. You can see everywhere that the '4' is for stylization in graphics only.

If Marvel is calling the movie 'The Fantastic Four', why do we insist on using a stylized intro as our source?

@varunchopra said:

Please see: https://www.marvel.com/movies/the-fantastic-four-first-steps

Set against the vibrant backdrop of a 1960s-inspired, retro-futuristic world, Marvel Studios’ 'The Fantastic Four: First Steps' introduces Marvel’s First Family—Reed Richards/Mister Fantastic, Sue Storm/Invisible Woman, Johnny Storm/Human Torch and Ben Grimm/The Thing as they face their most daunting challenge yet.

I came here to report the same issue. You can see everywhere that the '4' is for stylization in graphics only.

If Marvel is calling the movie 'The Fantastic Four', why do we insist on using a stylized intro as our source?

④ stripped of graphical stylisation is 4, not Four.

And Marvel is using both titles across its press and promo, but only one of them appears onscreen in the movie.

That is incorrect.

What you're referring to is the logo.

And Marvel is using both titles across its press and promo, but only one of them appears onscreen in the movie.

If you have any sources, please list them out. I've listed mine, and here are more:

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_fantastic_four_first_steps

https://www.marvel.com/articles/movies/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-pedro-pascal-vanessa-kirby-joseph-quinn-ebon-moss-bachrach

https://www.fandango.com/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-2025-236967/movie-overview

Nowhere does it say 4 instead of Four.

@varunchopra said:

Nowhere does it say 4 instead of Four.

Getting into reality-denial now...

It says 4 on every poster and in every trailer.

But again, according to the guidelines, the only title that ultimately matters in a case like this is the one onscreen in the movie itself, which is 4.

Everywhere Marvel Studios and Disney have written it it's 'The Fantastic Four: First Steps' not 'The Fantastic 4: First Steps'. IMDb still have it 'The Fantastic Four: First Steps' - I don't think that's going to be corrected as it's already correct according to all Marvel Studios and Disney material.

But if you want it to show as it is in the movie itself (and every poster) then you NEED the graphical stylisation of the ④.

@footiemadman007 said:

Everywhere Marvel Studios and Disney have written it it's 'The Fantastic Four: First Steps' not 'The Fantastic 4: First Steps'.

Except onscreen in the film's opening titles (the place that matters above all in a case like this per the guidelines) and also on all of the promotional materials...

IMDb still have it 'The Fantastic Four: First Steps' - I don't think that's going to be corrected as it's already correct according to all Marvel Studios and Disney material.

See above.

Also, what IMDb chooses to do isn't ultimately relevant to this site.

But if you want it to show as it is in the movie itself (and every poster) then you NEED the graphical stylisation of the ④.

Purely graphical stylisation isn't typically reproduced.

Here are two questions to consider:

1. How does the title appear onscreen in the film's opening titles?
2. What plain typographical character remains when you remove the purely graphical stylisation from '④'?

If you want to argue for an exception to be made in this case then do that, but please stop pretending the facts aren't what they are.