讨论 Ghost in the Shell
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"script addressed to children, mature and philosophical themes gone"
lindewellSTAFFMOD 发布于 2017 年 03 月 26 日 5:56下午
I checked out imdb user reviews and just as expected the filmmakers have put all their energy into capturing the visuals and dismissed the soul of GITS. Here's the review:
The cinematography its truly remarkable, it somehow reproduce the atmosphere of the original anime, the decaying, depressing, dark megalopolis is correctly reproduced here (despite the giant weird advertisements that are spread around, that doesn't really make any sense, and didn't appear in the anime, what are they trying to sell?), the costumes, robots, and the general look and feel of the characters are quite satisfying and solid. The music is not bad at all, includes some of the original score and it work towards creating a dense and dark environment. The acting is standard, not bad at all. The script is.... ohhh boy, let me breath... to use nice words, the script seems to be written addressed to children or to very 'slow' people. All the rich complexity, all the mature and philosophical themes, all the sides of the story that the original material let out to be imagined by the viewer, all that is gone here. Here you can find a bland, generic script, that explain a generic origin story, that never tries to get into the philosophical or ethical implications of human body enhancements or AI. Where the characters are one-sided, good vs bad people. We are use to that over-simplification of a movie plot, since we sadly live in a world conquered by the 'marvel'/'batman' method of making a movie, where the plot should be simple and thin, the characters shouldn't have any grays and the action should be convoluted and confusing, full of minions to destroy for the sake of fill 100 minutes (well at least this adaptation has correct action scenes, that are easy to follow and most of the time are not annoying). To wrap up, a correct movie, that shines in the visual and action sides, but has a forgettable script and characters. It will probably perform good in the box office, and that worries me because what could come next, it will be really sad to see how they reduce Akira, Jin-roh, Evangelion or Cowboy bebbop to a generic action blockbuster without any of the things that made those stories great.
skribb 的回复
于 2017 年 05 月 06 日 11:03上午
You make a good point, the latest animation installments were crap. Perhaps this defense of 'original' gits is merely emotional
komrad 的回复
于 2017 年 06 月 10 日 4:31下午
This movie was an over-sterilized CGI turd that had no soul. There in fact was no Ghost in the Shell. Also, "It's so dense; every single frame has so many things going on" - Rick Berman.
Jacinto Cupboard 的回复
于 2017 年 06 月 15 日 11:01下午
Is that the same Rick Berman whose 'creative vision' put Star Trek in the shitter? I think that's an opinion we may safely ignore. People are entitled to reasoned opinions but extreme opinions of the Comic Book Guy 'worst movie....EVER' type are little better than self ridiculing.
A movie doesn't become a 'turd' just because it fails to realise all your expectations.
BarkingBaphomet 的回复
于 2017 年 06 月 15 日 11:09下午
what is it with Ricks?
komrad 的回复
于 2017 年 06 月 15 日 11:31下午
I actually meant Rick McCalum but you didn't get the joke.
I literally had no expectations from this movie. It still failed. Perhaps if it had a better director maybe.
Jacinto Cupboard 的回复
于 2017 年 06 月 16 日 2:45上午
Not sure there is anything to get about a false attribution of a quote. Fwiw I'm neither autistic nor stupid so blaming me for that is a tad precious.
To call a movie dealing with issues of alienation and artificiality a 'turd' because it presents you with that very alien and artificial world is to be somewhat deaf to what is being told. It's a long way from Disney. So is the original. It has to be that way.
I can't think of a movie that has received as much irrational criticism as this. From the stupid race casting gripes through to appeals for pop philosophy and unhappiness regarding the 'sterile' nature of the world presented, people are just piling on. Sign of the times I guess.
tmdb43737777 的回复
于 2017 年 06 月 16 日 3:25上午
I didn't know much about the original. I heard it was haunting and deep. I'm still interested in seeing it.
Joe79 的回复
于 2017 年 06 月 16 日 8:30上午
Definitely see the original anime movie.
This film is NOT a direct remake and never was. I takes elements from The anime, its sequel and a totally separate story from the manga.
Visually the movie was great, the plot was coherent. Where it lacked was in direction and the lead actor. Slow mo was overused worse than Zack Snyder - and not even keyed into the tone of the scene (which Snyder at least attempts). In GitS if the scene is meant to be introspective : slowmo; action: slowmo; happy: slowmo etc etc etc. It's like it had one speed, and the wrong one for a movie with high adrenaline scenes.
As much as I like Scarlet Johanson she is the female counterpart to Keanu Reeves: zero emotional range, but looks great kicking ass. She just didn't suit the character of Major all that well. (IMO of course)
countzero99 的回复
于 2017 年 07 月 14 日 6:53下午
With all the slapstick, childish humor, those silly spider mechs and the occasional lesbian sex scene.
skribb 的回复
于 2017 年 07 月 28 日 4:22下午
Probably not because seeing earlier adaptations you understand the story right away since you've basically already seen it.