When Higgins and his associates are researching some of Condor's leads on the Langley computer, the information is organized around seemingly arbitrary classifications like "hatsize". Is anyone familiar with this?`
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Reply by Rebecca
on May 17, 2017 at 7:52 PM
Hi, you'd be better off re-posting this in the General Discussion forum attached to the film, instead of the Content Issues forum because it will just get buried under reports. Thanks.
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Reply by Banana
on May 18, 2017 at 4:28 AM
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Reply by PT 100
on June 2, 2017 at 9:50 PM
** SPOILERS**: I originally answered this question when it was posted at the Support/General forum, but I've since copied my replies in that thread over here where they belong:
Reply by PT 100 on May, 18 2017 at 2:22AM
He's doing a computer database cross-reference to link Wicks to the mailman, looking for commonalities. Hat size comes up as an irrelevant connection, causing impatience. He eventually finds a relevant connection: "Lucifer."
Reply by PT 100 on May, 18 2017 at 1:55PM
Think of hat size as a biometric measure, just like width of nose or distance between eyes, etc. It's a quick way, along with other traits, to help determine someone's identity. So sometimes it can be useful (although less so today, because so few men wear hats or have a known hat size). In this case it was irrelevant to connecting the two men; but when "Lucifer" popped up as a commonality, they knew it was significant. Here's a description of the scene that basically shows that Wicks and the mailman together helped create the fiction that the hitman Lucifer was dead:
The Jet Ranger comes into the grass pad at Langley and Higgins goes through to an Operations room that's more like something from NASA. A suite of video monitors, computers and communications equipment at which he sits with a computer operator and another CIA man. The Mail Man's corpse is shows from different angles, electronically transferred and retrieved from the scene. Then, a photo of him in USMC uniform. On-screen, the words:
WILLIAM LLOYD, GUNNERY SGT. USMC
320-618 DETACHED SERVICE: CIA LEBANON/1967-9/OPNS LIBYA/1970/OPNS VENEZUELA/1972-3/OPNS
Higgins tells the operator to cross-check it with Wicks' tape and hold the intersects. The screens fill with electronic text, changing too fast to read (With what look suspiciously like in-jokes hidden on screen) and, to Higgins' disgust the machine throws out some of Wick's measurements, including hat size; both Lloyd and Wicks took a seven in hat size. Finally, however, an intersect of interest;
HAVANA, CUBA/8-21-67 GHAT, LIBYA/1-14-68 JASL,IRAN/5-31-68 PARIS,FRANCE/8-7-68 BEIRUT,LEBANON/9-9-69 IN RE: LUCIFER 2
Lucifer. Higgins tells the operator to run the name. This brings up an image of Joubert, for some reason in negative, followed by a negative image of a VW Beetle exploding somewhere in Europe. Text appears on screen claiming this to be the termination of free-lance agent G.Joubert, confirmed by the case officer - none other than Wicks, assisted by the Mail Man, Lloyd. Clearly something is very, very wrong inside the Company.
Here's the key piece of actual dialog from that scene:
"Cross-check this tape against Wicks and hold any intersects. Hat size. Lucifer. All right, run Lucifer. Coming up. I'll be damned. I'll be damned." I hope that clarifies things for you.
Reply by PT 100 on May, 18 2017 at 8:08PM
A long time ago, when I lived in MD, I used to have a neighbor who was a Russian linguist at the NSA (aka "Never Say Anything" or "No Such Agency"). He would never tell me anything about his work other than his general occupation and where he worked. I was approached after grad school to work for the CIA, but decided that wasn't for me. Too spooky.