@Nexus71 said:

That's what STP needs more strippers.

You first Nex. How about a slow grind to the bird dance song? Strip Nex Strip.

The Bird Dance Song is hardly appropriate for a slow grind.Besides who wants to see me feather plucking?

It's a petty I don't live near you Zne because then I would call your favourite radio station everyday a hundred times and request them to play the goddamn Bird Dance Song every time .If you don't go bonkers in a week I come and give you a stripshow beak and feathers and all.

@Invidia said

CLOSER is definitely an EXCELLENT FILM for TAKING a CLOSER LOOK at what kind of stuff goes on in REAL LIFE.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/articles/201303/what-its-be-stripper

Stripping is all about the "hustle"—it's an attitude. You pretend you're really into a guy, you push your boobs in his face for an extra 20 bucks, you tantalize him with what you might do to him.

In other words, the ENTIRE TIME the OTHER 3 STUCK UP SNOBS were looking DOWN on the STRIPPER for what she did for a living, the STRIPPER was also LOOKING DOWN on the 3 of them for being the STUPID kind of IDIOTS that they were (which she probably also deals with every day in her profession).

Another interesting artistic film dealing with the subject is Exotica (Canada 1994). Look it up. (I'd post a trailer clip but it makes the film look like a cheap thriller which it is not.)

@Nexus71 said:

The Bird Dance Song is hardly appropriate for a slow grind.Besides who wants to see me feather plucking?

Polka is the sexiest music

Really??

Isn't Exotica from the same guy who directed The Sweet Hereafter?

Yes. Atom Egoyan. However very few strippers and strip clubs look like the ones in the movies. In case you were hoping.

Only have seen one and it was not because of the strippers but because it was the only joint open at that time of the night where we could get some booze.And it wasn't actual "stripping" what was on that stage if you catch my drift.

Why do you precieve the act of sex as something that is forced upon women,wherever did you get that ridiculous idea from people do have consentual sex you know.The way you are describing it is that every time a man and woman are doing the old in-out he is basically forcing himself upon her there are women out there that like sex too and will make advances towards men not vice versa.

again you are drawing in a current day narrative into a past event.But you reluctantly decline my assessment about the influence the birth control pills on had on the feminist wave of the 60's and 70's while even feminists of that era acknowledge this.Fencing with a lit. degree is all fine but that doesn't make one an expert at everything.

And just because I posted a link of some female Youtuber doesn't mean I agree with everything she says but merely to show it wasn't just all males who have issues with new Trek and to show she did have some valid arguments but hey everybody who doesn't like new Trek is dumb and have a desire for nostalgia but neither are true Star Trek doesn't have to be the same it can move forward and revamp itself and it can be done within the confines of established lore.And a vast portion of the audience seem to be of a similar opinion that STP is not the show they wanted the fact that Picard went from 1.8 million viewers on Canadian TV to 1.3 million in five episodes(which is almost a third of the viewers)is telling but hey this ib formation is from the established media so it is probably a lie.

@Nexus71 said:

Why do you precieve the act of sex as something that is forced upon women,wherever did you get that ridiculous idea from people do have consentual sex you know.The way you are describing it is that every time a man and woman are doing the old in-out he is basically forcing himself upon her there are women out there that like sex too and will make advances towards men not vice versa.

again you are drawing in a current day narrative into a past event.But you reluctantly decline my assessment about the influence the birth control pills on had on the feminist wave of the 60's and 70's while even feminists of that era acknowledge this.Fencing with a lit. degree is all fine but that doesn't make one an expert at everything\\\\\ANYthing.

And just because I posted a link of some female Youtuber doesn't mean I agree with everything she says but merely to show it wasn't just all males who have issues with new Trek and to show she did have some valid arguments but hey everybody who doesn't like new Trek is dumb and have a desire for nostalgia but neither are true Star Trek doesn't have to be the same it can move forward and revamp itself and it can be done within the confines of established lore.And a vast portion of the audience seem to be of a similar opinion that STP is not the show they wanted the fact that Picard went from 1.8 million viewers on Canadian TV to 1.3 million in five episodes(which is almost a third of the viewers)is telling but hey this ib formation is from the established media so it is probably a lie.

Fixed it for you.

Here you again display that you don't know everything because STP can be viewed on Canadian TV without subscribing to CBS All Access or Amazon because CBS made a separate deal with a Canadian TV channel to broadcast STP so from that source we have measurable viewer numbers and ratings

https://www.ctvscifi.ca/show/star-trek-picard/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techradar.com/amp/news/how-to-watch-star-trek-picard-online-stream-the-new-show-from-anywhere.

And the drop in viewers can be found here.

https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/03/05/star-trek-picard-viewership-plummets-over-half-a-million-in-canada/

@Invidia said:

Since MAE WEST was still posing for PHOTOS in her 80's with much younger HUNKS (like HUGH HEFFNER was also doing when he was way past his PRIME), the ability to recognize it's time to stay out of the SEDUCTION GAME probably applies EQUALLY to both sexes)???

https://carlanthonyonline.com/2012/05/01/mae-day-1966-72-year-old-mae-west-decides-to-rock-and-roll/

And George Burns also kept dangling a couple of FEMALE ORNAMENTS off of his ARMS when he was well into his 90's. Apparently the idea is thinking the ORNAMENTS make the OLD HALF DEAD TREE (like a CHRISTMAS TREE) look more appealing??? Because the ORNAMENTS DISTRACT ATTENTION away from the FACT that the TREE's life is at or is nearly at an END???

I was referring to the fact that this is considered "empowering": https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2019-09/10/13/asset/bc1572be2fc9/sub-buzz-10168-1568121520-1.png but, IMHO, all it does it give men something to file away in the ol' spank bank. I don't think that even Mae West was wearing stuff like that in her 80s! At the moment, it's empowering for J Lo because most people will think she looks great. Probably less empowering when she's much older and it's all gone south and people are averting their eyes and hoping she puts it away! So the empowerment is predicated on other people's reactions.

I'm all for older people enjoying sex while they still can, though I'm undecided as to whether this extends to using younger people as pretty much prostitutes, which is what the three folk you mention were basically doing.

@Invidia said:

If that's a LINK to some kind of PHOTO of J'LO HALF NAKED, I'd rather not SEE IT. My poor OLD EYES are still dealing with having seen another WOMAN screwing her LOVER in the SWIMMING POOL one night when one went to check the MAIL. And one is RELUCTANT to have any more VISIONS like that PERMANENTLY IMPRINTED onto one's MEMORY. How old is J LO now??? She's been around now for quite some time. Hopefully she won't also end up like DEMI MOORE who was also FLAUNTING her SEXUALITY when she was past her prime.

whether this extends to using younger people as pretty much prostitutes, which is what the three folk you mention were basically doing.

J Lo is 50, and still looks great. But she won't be able to get away with that sort of outfit forever!

I was talking about Mae West/Hugh Heffner and George Burns!

@Invidia said:

So WHO or what exactly is in that LINK that you provided???

It's J lo from "Hustlers". Like I said, she looks great and can get away with it... now.

I don't think that the menopause automatically makes a woman unattractive (assuming they don't have recourse to surgery - and that brings its own problems). Gates McFadden still looks nice in the Wikipedia pic of her (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gates_McFadden#/media/File:2018_Trekonderoga_Panel.jpg) but then, she's not dressed like a stripper!

My god Invidia is the only form of message on here for you verbal diarrhea?

well don't know about the encyclopedia part if everyone starts ignoring the wall of text but to each there own