It seems you're behind the times. Sanders only won one "primary" out of 14, on what is called Super Tuesday: American Samoa. Biden won 9. Also, Bloomberg has officially dropped out.

As was noted recently by some wag, "Both Sanders and Bloomberg are trying to buy the nomination/election. Bloomberg is using his own money, while Sanders wants to use YOURS."

Another comment put it, "According to Sanders, 'If I have $1, and you have $20, then I have $21.'"

But Sanders' biggest problem seems to be that he can't stop praising Fidel Castro, among others. That's not a way to win Florida, for example.

I don't think people care much for Biden either well last time I watched Sanders won three primaries.And to be honest I don't think Biden has a chance in Hell to win the elections and most Republican voters will hate any democratic candidate because of them wanting to impeach Trump.And maybe it would be a good thing if the US became more socialist and since like 80% of the world can have health care and a social security system why can't the richest country in the world have one Americans still don't know the difference between socialism and communism.Maybe an outsider can defeat the outsider Trump was.

Also, last I heard Bloomberg spent at least $600 MILLION and accomplished zilch. Which does pretty serious damage to the left's frequent claim that money in politics is always evil (except for the Left's money of course - especially from teachers' unions, government workers' unions, etc, and other leftist billionaires) and that someone can just buy an election if they spend enough.

@Nexus71 said:

I don't think people care much for Biden either well last time I watched Sanders won three primaries.And to be honest I don't think Biden has a chance in Hell to win the elections and most Republican voters will hate any democratic candidate because of them wanting to impeach Trump.And maybe it would be a good thing if the US became more socialist and since like 80% of the world can have health care and a social security system why can't the richest country in the world have one Americans still don't know the difference between socialism and communism.Maybe an outsider can defeat the outsider Trump was.

A big part of the problem there is that Bernie is full-on communist, really. But even the "moderate" socialists such as Warren, point to places like Sweden as a model ignoring how those places actually work. In many ways, the economic system in Sweden is less regulated than the US is already, and EVERYONE pays a LOT of taxes, not just "the rich." Those places are also very homogenous, they don't have a big problem with immigration especially of the illegal variety... Places that Bernie and his 'fellow travelers' advocate are like Cuba and Venezuela which have imploded within the life memories of many people who are still alive now. Yet Bernie still acts like the high literacy rate in Cuba is what everyone should pay attention to, while ignoring the jailing, killing, etc, and that literacy isn't much use if all you're allowed to read is Castro. Much less that if you try to read or hear - or especially say or print! - anything else, you easily end up in prison, or worse.

Ow maybe the Democrats should call quits and stop wasting so much money from the same sources that promote the Republican candidate becausecitcreallycdoesn't make a difference whether the Democrats or Republicans win because both are in debt with the same companies and corporations this is why a lot of voters have lost faith.The presidency is becoming more like the title of Emperor in the later centuries of the Roman Empire where a person could actually bribe himself to become Emperor.

@Nexus71 said:

I don't think people care much for Biden either well last time I watched Sanders won three primaries.And to be honest I don't think Biden has a chance in Hell to win the elections and most Republican voters will hate any democratic candidate because of them wanting to impeach Trump.And maybe it would be a good thing if the US became more socialist and since like 80% of the world can have health care and a social security system why can't the richest country in the world have one Americans still don't know the difference between socialism and communism.Maybe an outsider can defeat the outsider Trump was.

One reason most young people don't really understand what communism and socialism really are, is that the left has largely controlled public education for decades.

Also, most of the other democrat candidates, especially warren and Buttigieg, actually want to do most or all of the same things Sanders talks about, they're just not honest about it.

@Invidia said:

@Nexus71 said:

Hey if people believe the lies of Trump what prevents them from believing the lies from Bernie I don't think you understand how much the voters hate the established politicians and politics.Because that was the reason Trump became president in the first place. But hey put forward Biden or Bloomberg my prediction is that in such a scenario Trump will get re-elected certainly after the failed impeachment process of the Democrats.

VOTERS know the DIFFERENCE between THE SCAM MAN (who NEVER HELD a POLITICAL OFFICE before the ELECTORAL COLLEGE enabled him to take control of the OVAL OFFICE) and someone else who has HELD OFFICE before.

And the reason why the SCAM MAN got into the OVAL OFFICE was because of the ELECTORAL COLLEGE (because HILLARY also BEAT HIM by 3 MILLION MORE VOTES being CAST for her than FOR HIM).

So what we need to do is GET RID of an OUTDATED SYSTEM that should no longer EXIST anymore (which also enabled the SHRUB to get into office when GORE should have been there).

And Since he was NEVER REALLY ELECTED by VOTERS in the FIRST PLACE (who MOSTLY VOTED for HILLARY), and he's also got FARMERS who voted for him last TIME on WELFARE now (because they FELL for his LIES just like those who got SCAMMED by his FAKE UNIVERSITY and FAKE CHARITY), they're also NOT GOING to VOTE for him again this time either. And that also means the 70,000 ELECTORAL VOTES he got las time in that area will be going for his OPPONENT (whoever it is).

PLUS the STOCK MARKET also FELL last week to the WORSE LEVELS it's had since the other BIG CRASH back in 2008.

And that also means the PENSIONS of people with 401K PLANS also took another HUGE HIT again (which is why they also won't be VOTING for the SCAM MAN again).

MONEY TALKS. The rest of his BS WALKS. And since people are WORSE OFF NOW, they'll also VOTE with their POCKET BOOKS and their WALLETS.

Just wait.

You'll see.

THE SCAM MAN is HISTORY.

And the CORONAVIRUS might also do him in even before the ELECTION does, because he's also in BAD HEALTH no matter how many FAKE LETTERS he gets doctors to write for him.

Because he also keeps SNIFFING whenever he speaks, which also means an UPPER RESPIRTORY INFECTION is going to HIT HIM HARD. Add on his BEING GROSSLY OVERWEIGHT, over 70, and on STATINS for his HEART CONDITION, and it looks like it's gonna be BYE BYE SCAM MAN if and when CORONA comes calling.

ABOUT 5 more hours left to go until EP 7 REVIEWS should start to come in.

Meanwhile, Bernie actually had a heart attack, just within the past few months, Biden has probably been senile for at least 30 years...

And the most recent study/poll I heard about showed that something like 90% of people reported they were doing well.

Oh and black and Hispanic employment is the highest it's been since records started being kept. So being against that means you're racist. (And if you believe Bernie or Biden could just take over and start doing what they want while those numbers somehow stay the same, that's a special kind of dementia too.)

There really are none so blind as those who will not see.

No time to attribute quotes etc, but it wouldn't surprise me if Trump got in again. Not because he's a good president (he's not!) but because most voters aren't astute enough to look beyond the slogans. Here in the UK, mini-Trump got in by repeating the mantra that he was going to "Get Brexit Done" whilst the opposition had a manifesto that would've benefited a lot of the electorate but all people heard was that Boris would "Get Brexit" done while the others were anti-Semitic commies. Most of the press here is right-wing (even "The Independent" is owned by a Russian billionaire) so finding favourable coverage of the left-wing party was hard. Even the "bias free" BBC subtly (and not so subtly) seemed to be supporting the right-wing Conservative party.

Too many people just hear the slogans. I stumbled across a discussion once where one guy was cheering the end of "ObamaCare" and was questioned on how he was going to cope (as he had a number of medical conditions). His reply was that he would be OK as he had coverage under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. Then someone pointed out that was the "proper" name for ObamaCare...

Of course the biggest problems with "Obamacare" are that a) Obama and the others were lying about it from the start, and knew it; and b) people were NOT dying in the streets before Obamacare, and it wasn't so long ago that people didn't remember that. What Obamacare did "for" a lot of people was force them out of insurance coverage they liked and could afford, into one-size-fits-all made-in-DC programs with much higher - and still increasing - monthly premiums plus "skyrocketing" (which Obama also said energy prices would "necessarily" do under his policies) - and also still increasing - deductibles and other limitations. Meanwhile, the number of "uninsured" people, which Obamacare was supposed to eliminate, has remained steady or actually increased. "Insurance" that one can't afford to actually use, is not really insurance.

Similarly, the biggest issues with "Brexit" are that a) people bought a "bill of goods" that turned out to not be true and they resented having someone in Brussels telling them how their beer had to be made, etc; and b) it hadn't been so long ago that there was no EU and lots of people are still alive who remember that not having the EU was not a disaster and so the claims that leaving it would CREATE a disaster were easily ignored.

Meanwhile, you can argue that Trump isn't a nice person - at least not to some people who you may sympathize with - but that's different than being a good president. Many people can believe that Obama is/was a good person while acknowledging that his presidency was a disaster. Not least for his party, which lost hundreds if not thousands of governorships and legislative positions etc, nationwide. And it's easy to show that the status of "race relations" plummeted during the Obama years, whereas now black and Hispanic employment and other measures are at the highest levels since records began to be kept. Why is apparently being against that progress, not denounced as racist? Apparently nothing the left does is "racist" no matter how terrible it is for people they supposedly care about.

P.S. If people "aren't astute enough to look past the slogans" then shouldn't Bernie "Everything Free For Everyone, And Nobody Has To Pay For Anything!" Sanders be getting 100% of the vote?

Because, y'know, that's one heck of a slogan!

@Knixon said:

Of course the biggest problems with "Obamacare" are that a) Obama and the others were lying about it from the start, and knew it; and b) people were NOT dying in the streets before Obamacare, and it wasn't so long ago that people didn't remember that. What Obamacare did "for" a lot of people was force them out of insurance coverage they liked and could afford, into one-size-fits-all made-in-DC programs with much higher - and still increasing - monthly premiums plus "skyrocketing" (which Obama also said energy prices would "necessarily" do under his policies) - and also still increasing - deductibles and other limitations. Meanwhile, the number of "uninsured" people, which Obamacare was supposed to eliminate, has remained steady or actually increased. "Insurance" that one can't afford to actually use, is not really insurance.

Similarly, the biggest issues with "Brexit" are that a) people bought a "bill of goods" that turned out to not be true and they resented having someone in Brussels telling them how their beer had to be made, etc; and b) it hadn't been so long ago that there was no EU and lots of people are still alive who remember that not having the EU was not a disaster and so the claims that leaving it would CREATE a disaster were easily ignored.

Meanwhile, you can argue that Trump isn't a nice person - at least not to some people who you may sympathize with - but that's different than being a good president. Many people can believe that Obama is/was a good person while acknowledging that his presidency was a disaster. Not least for his party, which lost hundreds if not thousands of governorships and legislative positions etc, nationwide. And it's easy to show that the status of "race relations" plummeted during the Obama years, whereas now black and Hispanic employment and other measures are at the highest levels since records began to be kept. Why is apparently being against that progress, not denounced as racist? Apparently nothing the left does is "racist" no matter how terrible it is for people they supposedly care about.

P.S. If people "aren't astute enough to look past the slogans" then shouldn't Bernie "Everything Free For Everyone, And Nobody Has To Pay For Anything!" Sanders be getting 100% of the vote?

Because, y'know, that's one heck of a slogan!

The US "healthcare" system is awful. Most people are living hand-to-mouth and can't afford any insurance, and many of those with insurance find it won't cover them when they need it. Why can't the richest country in the world look after it's citizens better? Why are drug prices in the US so high? https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/features/us-most-expensive-drugs-uk-prices/ ...and this is what the UK seems desperate to aspire to!

Brexit. Most of the "Dumb EU Regulations" stories are false; they're not EU regs or they're plain made up. Who started these stories? I'll give you a clue: he's now PM.

Trump - like his Mini-Me, Johnson - has discovered that if you lie big enough and loud enough, people will somehow start to believe you. This is not the sign of a good leader.

AFAICT Sander's slogan is "Not me.Us"?

People are slowly starting to realise that capitalism doesn't work. It requires more and more consumers to buy more and more stuff to perpetuate itself. There just aren't enough resources for it to keep going. Not to mention that it's a pyramidal structure that will always have the bulk of people at it's bottom - and people are waking up to the fact that the carrot of ascending the pyramid is there to keep them supporting that corrupt structure.

Bringing things back to Star Trek, you do realise that The Federation works on the "From each according to his ability; to each according to his needs" principle? As you seem keen on this, I guess that you're a really Marxist at heart.

Are you not familiar with the expression "Two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for breakfast?"

Why should a couple narrow strips of leftism on the coasts, and a few other large concentrations of lefties - large cities - control everything, and everyone else?

https://brilliantmaps.com/2016-county-election-map/

The map above shows the county level and vote share results of the 2016 US Presidential Election. The darker the blue the more a county went for Hilary Clinton and the darker the red the more the county went for Donald Trump.

This map helps explain why Trump was able to win, despite winning over 2.2. million fewer votes (at the time of writing) than Clinton. Her votes were very concentrated in only a few states whereas Trump’s votes came from a wide enough geographic area to capture the Electoral College.

All blue states: Hawaii and Massachusetts.

All red sates: Alaska, West Virginia, and Oklahoma.

Overall Trump won approximately 2,600 counties to Clinton’s 500, or about 84% of the geographic United States. However, Clinton won 88 of the 100 largest counties (including Washington D.C.). *Without these 100 largest counties she would have lost by 11.5 million votes. *

I love this page: https://brilliantmaps.com/if-only-x-voted/

If only non-college educated white people voted, Trump would have done even better!

Is that a surprise to you? The left has controlled "education" for decades.

@Knixon said:

Is that a surprise to you?

That stupider people vote for Trump? No, it doesn't surprise me ion the slightest.

That's exactly the problem, the assumption that college-"educated" people are necessarily smarter. Would you really like to argue that someone with a degree in Feminist Studies is actually smarter than, say, someone who has owned and operated a farm for decades and actually produced food for people including the Feminist Studies graduate who couldn't feed herself if her life depended on it? Why, because the farmer never heard of Andrea Dworkin? I sometimes wish I never had!

P.S. By the way, there are degrees in Farm Science, etc.