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I haven't watched the finale spoilers so I don't know the answer, but...is Iris dead? I'm using what we saw tonight to try and figure it out. Many people believe Iris is alive and H.R. is dead. But how is that possible when we saw Iris get killed?

Or did we?

I'm on board with this theory. H.R. felt horrible for allowing Savitar to find Iris, so he thought up a plan to die in her place...a plan Barry doesn't know about because he told them to not tell him what they were going to do so Savitar wouldn't know. When Barry was trying to shoot Savitar with the bazooka, H.R. traded places with Iris, and used his face-changing technology that Barry used earlier in the episode to make him look like Iris. Barry doesn't know this, because he wasn't there when the plan was made, so Savitar doesn't know it either. Both Barry and Savitar think Iris is dead, but everyone else knows it's H.R. That's why Tracy got so upset when the bazooka didn't work, because she then knew H.R. was going to die. That's why Joe didn't go hysterical...he knew Iris was OK. It also explains the conversation Cisco had with H.R....about saying he's responsible and he'll hold the fort down and he can be trusted. It was a thank you for what H.R. was going to do...the sacrifice he's going to make...and a forever goodbye.

I don't like this theory at all, because I think H.R. is awesome and I love the character. I cannot stand Iris and would be just fine of she died. The only other person I would be more upset with dying other than H.R. is Joe. He's probably my favorite character. If Joe was gone, this show would tank.

One interesting observation I didn't even make until I read about it after I watched the episode: where the heck was Julian? What was he doing the last time we saw him?

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@GForce59 said:

I haven't watched the finale spoilers so I don't know the answer, but...is Iris dead? I'm using what we saw tonight to try and figure it out. Many people believe Iris is alive and H.R. is dead. But how is that possible when we saw Iris get killed?

Or did we?

I'm on board with this theory. H.R. felt horrible for allowing Savitar to find Iris, so he thought up a plan to die in her place...a plan Barry doesn't know about because he told them to not tell him what they were going to do so Savitar wouldn't know. When Barry was trying to shoot Savitar with the bazooka, H.R. traded places with Iris, and used his face-changing technology that Barry used earlier in the episode to make him look like Iris. Barry doesn't know this, because he wasn't there when the plan was made, so Savitar doesn't know it either. Both Barry and Savitar think Iris is dead, but everyone else knows it's H.R. That's why Tracy got so upset when the bazooka didn't work, because she then knew H.R. was going to die. That's why Joe didn't go hysterical...he knew Iris was OK. It also explains the conversation Cisco had with H.R....about saying he's responsible and he'll hold the fort down and he can be trusted. It was a thank you for what H.R. was going to do...the sacrifice he's going to make...and a forever goodbye.

I don't like this theory at all, because I think H.R. is awesome and I love the character. I cannot stand Iris and would be just fine of she died. The only other person I would be more upset with dying other than H.R. is Joe. He's probably my favorite character. If Joe was gone, this show would tank.

One interesting observation I didn't even make until I read about it after I watched the episode: where the heck was Julian? What was he doing the last time we saw him?

You called that one!! 😋

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