讨论 Twin Peaks

Well, that certainly raised a lot more questions than giving any answers and that being said, I actually feel 100% satisfied. The ending reminded me a lot of something out of Lost Highway or Mulholland Drive.

Cons: Obviously all the unanswered questions that will probably never be resolved due to this being the last season of Twin Peaks.

Pros: Kyle's performance, the Cooper/Diane resolution, the last five minutes, the darkness of the Richard/Linda love sequence.

If this is the final season and there are no further stories to tell, I'm going with the idea that everything has, in fact, been a dream. The dreamer has been Richard, who is most likely a conflicted darker character who has created the alter ego of Dale Cooper for himself and set himself a goal where he can be the hero. Linda, in his dreams, took over the role of Diane/Naido, obviously she is only referenced in the first season but is someone who he depends on a lot.

Early on in the show, it is suggested that Laura is the key - she is pure and a representation of the corruption of the human spirit and the fight back for redemption. Upon waking up in the motel, Richard most likely falls asleep again and this time plunges straight into the nightmare.

Laura is recognisable only physically, but she has no memory of her life in Twin Peaks and on top of that seems as if she has murdered someone in cold blood. Cooper's character becomes an almagamation of Cooper and Mr. C as the dreamer has now fused the personalities together. The journey back is somewhat silent and vague, the dreamer is desperatly clinging onto past memories and trying to make the positive aspects happen again. When they get to the Palmer household, it has changed and the Palmers no longer live. The lights go out and it seems that the bad memories are all surfacing and Carrie suddenly remembers that she was/is Laura. End. Credits over the image of "Laura" whispering to "Cooper."

The genius of it all - is that it doesn't matter. The questions will remain unanswered because that's pretty much what we get in real life and especially in dreams. That's just my interpretation, I've already scanned reddit and seen a few theories floating around which suggest that Cooper has created a new timeline etc...

A great ride none the less.

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I'm still thinking about the entire show. Loving reading different opinions on it over on reddit.

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Absolute meaningless nonsense from start to finish - an insult to the original two seasons. On the plus side: Laura Palmer's scream might be the most disturbing sound I've ever heard and the idea that Lucy killed and shot Bad Cooper was kinda funny and ironic. But overall, absolute garbage. A third season devoid of plot, proper character development or story resolution. What did we learn from this season - hardly nothing. 'Judy' is some evil force that was never explored, Laura Palmer appears to be alive as another person, and perhaps Cooper has been transferred into another Earth dimension where no-one is the same. And let's not forget Dale Cooper was not even in the show for most of the earlier 16 episodes - just some comedy buffoon version (Dougie Jones).

And what was the point of 'old footage' material at the end of episode 17 - why did we need to see Josie looking in the mirror? Just filler material like 99 percent of the third season.

Given the impact of the first and second seasons, I'd rate Twin Peaks: The Return the worst tv disappointment there's ever been. Yes, I think it was that bad. I don't know why David Lynch and Mark Frost bothered. Well, I know the real reason - money. Showtime offered them enough cash to make this garbage.

I think a lot of stuff about Lynch could be regarded as being absolute nonsense, I think one of the main problems faced by this season was that it gave him total and absolute control. Showtime has said that their open to renewing the show for Season 4, so the ball is in their court. But I think a large part of the fan base has been alienated throughout the entire season 3 run which probably doesn't bode well for anything in the future unless they can get together enough money to make a one off movie.

That being said, I still think it makes sense. We all see Cooper as an old man in the lodge, he can't ever leave or get back despite him trying to do so. I'm happy with it.

I liked the theory that says that the sex scene between Diane and Cooper was the alleged rape that Diane was telling Cole and the others about. He seemed very distant and cold at the time and the whole thing felt like a hookup.

@diadara said:

I liked the theory that says that the sex scene between Diane and Cooper was the alleged rape that Diane was telling Cole and the others about. He seemed very distant and cold at the time and the whole thing felt like a hookup.

Wasn't she riding him?

I think one genuine criticism of the season is how much of it felt padded out to accommodate eighteen episodes. Showtime commissioned nine episodes and David Lynch refused and quit the project. Showtime compromised and the end result was a drawn out season hence why we had the interminable scene of Laura and Cooper driving at night, the long sex scene (Diane and Cooper), the filler material of Josie and others from ep 17, the repeat of scenes from ep 2 in ep 18, Cooper as Dougie Jones (!) unnecessary music performances at the end of many episodes... the list of drawn out scenes is numerous. Many episodes had padded out scenes.

By the way, we never found out what was the creepy, humming noise in the walls of the Great Northern Hotel. Another subplot that went down a dead end, like the show itself.

You could argue the whole season made no sense and was one long practical joke by Frost and Lynch. "We fooled you into watching this for eighteen weeks, you suckers!"

@Pitt78 said:

@diadara said:

I liked the theory that says that the sex scene between Diane and Cooper was the alleged rape that Diane was telling Cole and the others about. He seemed very distant and cold at the time and the whole thing felt like a hookup.

Wasn't she riding him?

Yes, hence alleged. The theory is that Diane was confused about what had happened or had been programmed to tell that version. It could have been the sex ritual used to summon the Mother, the evil entity that later enters Sarah Palmer. When Diane was waiting outside in the car while Cooper was checking in, she saw her tulpa, the one that later on is the Diane that works with Gordon and Albert.

Not my theory, feel free to poke holes in it. Just thought it sounded cool.

@diadara said:

@Pitt78 said:

@diadara said:

I liked the theory that says that the sex scene between Diane and Cooper was the alleged rape that Diane was telling Cole and the others about. He seemed very distant and cold at the time and the whole thing felt like a hookup.

Wasn't she riding him?

Yes, hence alleged. The theory is that Diane was confused about what had happened or had been programmed to tell that version. It could have been the sex ritual used to summon the Mother, the evil entity that later enters Sarah Palmer. When Diane was waiting outside in the car while Cooper was checking in, she saw her tulpa, the one that later on is the Diane that works with Gordon and Albert.

Not my theory, feel free to poke holes in it. Just thought it sounded cool.

It does sound cool and you indirectly answered my question about Palmer's mother. However I must not pay attention as well as I think, when was this "mother entity" mentioned or alluded to?

@Pitt78 said:

@diadara said:

@Pitt78 said:

@diadara said:

I liked the theory that says that the sex scene between Diane and Cooper was the alleged rape that Diane was telling Cole and the others about. He seemed very distant and cold at the time and the whole thing felt like a hookup.

Wasn't she riding him?

Yes, hence alleged. The theory is that Diane was confused about what had happened or had been programmed to tell that version. It could have been the sex ritual used to summon the Mother, the evil entity that later enters Sarah Palmer. When Diane was waiting outside in the car while Cooper was checking in, she saw her tulpa, the one that later on is the Diane that works with Gordon and Albert.

Not my theory, feel free to poke holes in it. Just thought it sounded cool.

It does sound cool and you indirectly answered my question about Palmer's mother. However I must not pay attention as well as I think, when was this "mother entity" mentioned or alluded to?

That would be the ultimate evil that was born from the atomic bomb and from her, Bob was spawned.

@diadara said:

@Pitt78 said:

@diadara said:

@Pitt78 said:

@diadara said:

I liked the theory that says that the sex scene between Diane and Cooper was the alleged rape that Diane was telling Cole and the others about. He seemed very distant and cold at the time and the whole thing felt like a hookup.

Wasn't she riding him?

Yes, hence alleged. The theory is that Diane was confused about what had happened or had been programmed to tell that version. It could have been the sex ritual used to summon the Mother, the evil entity that later enters Sarah Palmer. When Diane was waiting outside in the car while Cooper was checking in, she saw her tulpa, the one that later on is the Diane that works with Gordon and Albert.

Not my theory, feel free to poke holes in it. Just thought it sounded cool.

It does sound cool and you indirectly answered my question about Palmer's mother. However I must not pay attention as well as I think, when was this "mother entity" mentioned or alluded to?

That would be the ultimate evil that was born from the atomic bomb and from her, Bob was spawned.

Anddddd you answered another of my questions lol. So glad folks like you exist :D.

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