Yes, that whole episode was full of creepiness.

That was a longg rubbing scene too.

What took him so long to run? Was it because they were holding him back at first?

I want to refer to them as soot men, but the credits say "woodsmen" so that's what they are.

@ScorpionQ2 said:

Yes, that whole episode was full of creepiness.

That was a longg rubbing scene too.

What took him so long to run? Was it because they were holding him back at first?

I want to refer to them as soot men, but the credits say "woodsmen" so that's what they are.

I think he was just stuck in WTF mode.

@movie_nazi said:

I think he was just stuck in WTF mode.

Well, he was stuck there for a long time,seems like he stayed for that whole rubbing scene.

@Invidia said:

A link thinks they might be DUGPAS:

That "woodsmen" in the credits didn't seem quite descriptive enough.

"Got a light?"

@Invidia said:

What's interesting is how the SHOT by SHOT guys say COOP/BOB is just DOPPLEGANER/COOP now because BOB left his body.

Yes, but DOPPLEGANGER/COOP is still going to be EVIL COOP because that is what he is-BAD-just without BOB, but I don't think BOB will be away from DOPPLEGANGER/COOP for too long-

I will always love that scene of BOB and DOPPLEGANGER/COOP cackling hysterically together.

Maybe BOB will be back in EVIL COOP next episode - :BAWLING We gotta wait TWO WHOLE WEEKS!

So what happens now? And where did BOB go?

Who knows? BOB probably has a lot of other evil stuff to get done .

They also think he might be inside of the singer on stage (due to the lyrics he's singing)?

NIN? I don't think they are going to start having the featured band members being possessed by BOB, and would BOB really possess someone just to sing a song? I just think some of the songs/ music played are relevant to the episode or a particular event happening on the episode.

One of them also took back their LOG LADY's husband being inside of the LOG theory, because after seeing these CREEPY CREATURES they no longer think he's one of the Woodsmen anymore.

I think those theory guys will end up taking a lot back.

If one of those things came up to the car window the last thing I'd do is sit there long enough for it to ask for a light.

and it asked more than once-"Got a light?" so they sat there way too many seconds overtime..

I'd probably have another SPEEDING TICKET from racing away from it as fast as one could before it had a chance to speak.

@Invidia said:

They also think he might be inside of the singer on stage (due to the lyrics he's singing)?

Read the "NiN" thread by Jana.

@Invidia said:

Maybe the now BOBLESS COOP will turn into being as helpless as DARK SUIT COOP is, and that other COOP who spent 25 yrs in the LODGE will also WAKE UP and be back to being himself again?

@ BOBLESS COOP , I like that!

I had thought that too- that maybe now he will be as helpless as DARK SUIT COOP, but I don't think BOB will let him stay that way for too long.

Over on the other topic That TROLL creature (fan of films who hardly ever has anything nice to say about the show), calls the bands FILLER, but the other band who sings the SHADOW song was probably there to FORESHADOW what the ending of the story will involve.

When I saw "That TROLL" I immediately knew WHO you meant before I finished reading the sentence . He thinks everything is filler.

I agree with the other band who sings the SHADOW song was probably there to FORESHADOW what the ending of the story will involve. I think all of the bands featured are lending something to an event or something on the show- we just may not know/figured out what exactly...yet.

As you may recall, I predicted BOBBY will be the one to remove LAURA'S PHOTO from the FRAME (which is what the song lyrics are saying). So that song seemed to be there as just more than FILLING up some space.

I do recall

Just saw NiN performing in the show and the over all impression is the song has a demonic vibe to it.

Yes, and there were demons/spirits everywhere in that episode, so NO FILLER.

And in INLAND EMPIRE the LYRICS to BLACK TAMBORINE, the BECK SONG playing, were definitely there as BIG CLUES to what else is happening in that story. CLICK HERE to see it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86GXs15hOug

I am holding off on watching IE right now because I don't think my mind could handle nor decipher 2 LYNCH works at the SAME TIME .

Plus I am hoping SUNDANCE will show IE again so I can watch on my TV.

Episode 8 just blew me away

So IF THE PHANTOM in IE is also BOB in TP ... we may also be dealing with SATAN himself???

Could be.

NOTE the way the ANGEL also DISAPPEARS from the PICTURE on the wall of LAURA PALMER. And then an ANGEL also APPEARS again later on in the LODGE after COOP helps her.

I do remember this.

@Invidia said:

MTTH isn't in IE.

That's why it's called MORE THINGS that HAPPENED.

And that scene is also a stand alone scene that doesn't really screw up your mind.

oh, ok

As for waiting to see IE on SUNDANCE ...

IE is also available now online.

I know but I'm trying to hold out so I can watch on my TV

So do a search for it after THE RETURN is over and we can have some fun discussing it over at the IE BOARD.

OK- I already have it bookmarked in case SUNDANCE never shows it again.

Hopefully we'll also have a better understanding of it due to what else we've seen in TP.

Yes- HOPEFULLY.

@Invidia said:

11 There's fire where you're going

This one struck me as Sounds like a nice way to tell someone to go to hell. and I wonder who it is meant for.

This is the CHAIR??? That draws a complete BLANK.

It SURE DOES Maybe it's about a certain CHAIR at THE LODGE??

And there's also NO EPPY descriptions in the TV GUIDE AREA like most shows have.

There NEVER is, even before an episode airs all that is listed is the title of the episode and the time length of the episode. I think they don't want to give anything away, NO hints/ they want to keep us in suspense -and I LIKE it!

@movie_nazi said:

If I was Ray I woulda took off like that as well! Man, that was weird!

He stayed way longer than I would have.

@Invidia said:

There's FIRE where you're going is most likely a reference to the FIRE WALK WITH ME slogan.

@Invidia said:

Check out this CLIP from a film called DAVID LYNCH: THE ART LIFE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQzQx_wOwI8

1:13 TIME MARK

Could this be his NOTES from this show?

Thanks!

I could not even make that out to read - but SURE it's possible,

Someone at YOU TUBE says this: "ummm....major twin peaks season 3 spoiler at 1:14? or is it lynch being playful? not sure...but those scribbles on that notepad shown for just a couple seconds are quite revealing and tantalizing."

Will we see COLE having a dream about MONICA at a café in PARIS?

Who is MONICA? Seems I vaguely remember COLE saying that name?

And EPISODE 13 is called:

'What story is that, Charlie?'

So WHO is CHARLIE????????

I have NO idea

@Invidia ,

Yes, I read she would be part of the cast on TP.

When you said MONICA- I didn't realize that was the actresses real name.

Has COLE said this name on the show?

@Invidia said:

GO HERE and PAUSE IT at the 1:13 TIME MARK where you'll see MONICA'S FULL NAME mentioned in the NOTE PAD: Check out this CLIP from a film called DAVID LYNCH: THE ART LIFE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQzQx_wOwI8

1:13 TIME MARK

Could this be his NOTES from this show?

COULD BE- I CAN NOT make out the writing/words on the paper to read them.

All I've seen is the SHOT by SHOT still shots of the show, so have NO IDEA if her name's been mentioned or not.

Ok, thanks

@Invidia said:

Trust me. It's got MONICA'S FULL NAME on that paper.

I do. If YOU say it does, I believe you. It's just too small and squiggly for my to read.

says COOPER was there with us ? but I couldn't see his face?

Was there EVER another LYNCH film with a character named COOPER ? If not, then that very well COULD BE NOTES for TP.

The part where it says: WE ENTER THE FILM and it BECOMES the REALITY also sounds interesting.

It also reminds one of what happens to NORMA DESMOND in SUNSET BLVD where the world where she made the SILENT FILMS became MORE REAL for her than the REAL ONE.

Love SUNSET BLVD, one of my favorite oldies.

The QUESTION is WHEN and at what point in the story do we ENTER this FILM that becomes the REALITY?

KEEPING FINGERS CROSSED that we'll find out the answer in about 48 MORE HOURS from now.

Yes

So the NEXT QUESTION is WHO'S the BIG BAD WOLF in this TALE?

ALL great questions, ALL great theories.

Showtime has this promo for TP where they show critics rave about TP new season, and Rolling Stone said "It will f * ck you up."

Which is exactly what I thought

watch here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXyEdXZwlUM