I'd answer, but that would require me to have been married. Or engaged. Or gone on a date. Or been within ten miles of a woman.

@ArcticFox12 said:

@Knixon said:

With preliminaries and after-aries it isn't difficult for hours to pass.

True. We may be "Push to start" but women are more old engines that need to be warmed up.

Now the real conundrum that think-tanks have been ruminating over for ages. Convincing our spouses to "Kneel for the National Anthem".

That's actually never been an interest of mine. The side benefit is that I have no obligation to reciprocate.

@MurphAndTheMagicTones said:

I'd answer, but that would require me to have been married. Or engaged. Or gone on a date. Or been within ten miles of a woman.

Watch out for those high school girls, Murph. I don't want to see your mug shot on TV or in the paper.

@Knixon said:

@ArcticFox12 said:

@Knixon said:

With preliminaries and after-aries it isn't difficult for hours to pass.

True. We may be "Push to start" but women are more old engines that need to be warmed up.

Now the real conundrum that think-tanks have been ruminating over for ages. Convincing our spouses to "Kneel for the National Anthem".

That's actually never been an interest of mine. The side benefit is that I have no obligation to reciprocate.

Umm...wow

@Gothish520 said:

@Knixon said:

@ArcticFox12 said:

@Knixon said:

With preliminaries and after-aries it isn't difficult for hours to pass.

True. We may be "Push to start" but women are more old engines that need to be warmed up.

Now the real conundrum that think-tanks have been ruminating over for ages. Convincing our spouses to "Kneel for the National Anthem".

That's actually never been an interest of mine. The side benefit is that I have no obligation to reciprocate.

Umm...wow

Yeah I don't understand people who think this way. Intimacy is a two way street. You and your partner explore and discuss what you like and you go from there. There shouldn't be any "obligation".

@CalabrianQueen said:

@ArcticFox12 said:

@Knixon said:

With preliminaries and after-aries it isn't difficult for hours to pass.

True. We may be "Push to start" but women are more old engines that need to be warmed up.

Now the real conundrum that think-tanks have been ruminating over for ages. Convincing our spouses to "Kneel for the National Anthem".

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: If you guys spent as much time Reciprocating as you did "Convincing" ,you wouldn't need to do the "Convincing". 😏

@Gothish520 said:

@CalabrianQueen said:

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: If you guys spent as much time Reciprocating as you did "Convincing" ,you wouldn't need to do the "Convincing". 😏

And THAT's one of the many things that keeps me and my husband solid.

Maybe you don't consider that a form of "obligation" but it sure comes across that way.

@Knixon said:

@Gothish520 said:

@CalabrianQueen said:

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: If you guys spent as much time Reciprocating as you did "Convincing" ,you wouldn't need to do the "Convincing". 😏

And THAT's one of the many things that keeps me and my husband solid.

Maybe you don't consider that a form of "obligation" but it sure comes across that way.

I can't speak for anyone else, but it's not an "obligation" in my relationship. Trust me when I tell you, I don't have to twist his arm and he does not have to twist mine. QUITE the opposite, on both sides!

Then it's not "convincing" and "reciprocating" in your case, but that's the comment you responded to. And if that commenter didn't mean it either, well, that's not my fault for believing what people write.

@Knixon said:

Then it's not "convincing" and "reciprocating" in your case, but that's the comment you responded to. And if that commenter didn't mean it either, well, that's not my fault for believing what people write.

Ahh, I got you. My initial response to CQ was meant to convey that no convincing on either side was needed.

@Knixon said:

Then it's not "convincing" and "reciprocating" in your case, but that's the comment you responded to. And if that commenter didn't mean it either, well, that's not my fault for believing what people write.

It's not the believing you're having a problem with , it's the comprehending.

@Gothish520 said:

@Knixon said:

Then it's not "convincing" and "reciprocating" in your case, but that's the comment you responded to. And if that commenter didn't mean it either, well, that's not my fault for believing what people write.

Ahh, I got you. My initial response to CQ was meant to convey that no convincing on either side was needed.

I strongly doubt Knixon understood my public service announcement quip. Neither is obligate.

I wanted to point out to Fox that "convincing" as he put it can be done in more creative ways that may produce the desired response. Don't know how I can make that simpler, but maybe the boys get the point now. 😉

@CalabrianQueen said:

@Gothish520 said:

@Knixon said:

Then it's not "convincing" and "reciprocating" in your case, but that's the comment you responded to. And if that commenter didn't mean it either, well, that's not my fault for believing what people write.

Ahh, I got you. My initial response to CQ was meant to convey that no convincing on either side was needed.

I strongly doubt Knixon understood my public service announcement quip. Neither is obligate.

I wanted to point out to Fox that "convincing" as he put it can be done in more creative ways that may produce the desired response. Don't know how I can make that simpler, but maybe the boys get the point now. 😉

"Convincing" other than asking - or begging or whatever - seems no different from "reciprocation" which, if that's what it takes, amounts to "obligation."

@CalabrianQueen said:

@Gothish520 said:

@Knixon said:

Then it's not "convincing" and "reciprocating" in your case, but that's the comment you responded to. And if that commenter didn't mean it either, well, that's not my fault for believing what people write.

Ahh, I got you. My initial response to CQ was meant to convey that no convincing on either side was needed.

I strongly doubt Knixon understood my public service announcement quip. Neither is obligate.

I wanted to point out to Fox that "convincing" as he put it can be done in more creative ways that may produce the desired response. Don't know how I can make that simpler, but maybe the boys get the point now. 😉

I get it. It's more about wisely invested time , sort of a physical negotiation. We're privy to each other's needs , and any couple who isn't needs to realize that communication is part of the solution. We learned that early in our relationship.

@Knixon said:

@CalabrianQueen said:

@Gothish520 said:

@Knixon said:

Then it's not "convincing" and "reciprocating" in your case, but that's the comment you responded to. And if that commenter didn't mean it either, well, that's not my fault for believing what people write.

Ahh, I got you. My initial response to CQ was meant to convey that no convincing on either side was needed.

I strongly doubt Knixon understood my public service announcement quip. Neither is obligate.

I wanted to point out to Fox that "convincing" as he put it can be done in more creative ways that may produce the desired response. Don't know how I can make that simpler, but maybe the boys get the point now. 😉

"Convincing" other than asking - or begging or whatever - seems no different from "reciprocation" which, if that's what it takes, amounts to "obligation."

You can't repurpose words when it suits you.

The bottom line is, no one in this thread mentioned anything close to "obligation" until you did. Case closed.

Not only that but he's quoting me in the "convincing" part . Kinda hard to interpret you with my words 🤔

Or maybe this thread was too friendly for his taste.